Another Empire has 23x my score haflway through?

[Cyriusly145]

I don't know if this is a core game feature or a bug? In my first playthrough currently and the Rethellian Guardians have 47k score at year 2233 and are in 1st, I'm 4th at 2k. Wtf is going on? How can I possibly compete with them? They declared war on me when I had a total fleet strength of 1.5k, and sent one with 361k. I don't see how I can possibly compete with them, and if I was at the bottom of the leaderboard of this game that would make sense... but I'm 4th?

Am I missing something important? Or is this a bug?

 

[Ryika]

It's a fallen Empire.

See:

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[Cyriusly145]

It's a fallen Empire.

See:

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Ah, ok! Didn't realize that's what they were and was treating them like any other empire. Thank you!

 

[Spaceception]

Here, we see a fledgling Interstellar Empire step into the void, ready to mess around and find out. Observe, their neighbor quickly letting them find out.


Side note, what did you do to get them to delcare war on you? Take a nearby system (if they were xenophobes)? Colonize a Holy World (if they were spiritualists)?

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[MK1980]

"[Name] Guardians" is one of the rng names for the spiritualist fe. You probably colonized one of their holy worlds without paying attention to the warning.

 

[Lykus Cerebros]

Oh yeah did the exact same thing in my first stellaris game. Still remember thinking I hit the jackpot when I found that gaia world.

 

[Obeliskkai]

Anyone else remember this beauty when reading the OP?

 

[Methone]

You know you're screwed when the game has a special HOPELESS WAR notification for an FE attacking you.

 

[JackHazardous]

The precursors always have an absurd tech score, but their other scores tend to severely lack. If you want to win, you need to kick this geezer's shit in

 

[Lykus Cerebros]

Precursor is like 5 k in score. This is a FE and leading a newer player into war with them isn't really helpful.

 

[Osiris1975]

I found out about this the hard way. What I did was retreat all my ships as far away as possible and let the FE win it's objectives. Then made peace, focused on becoming strong enough to defeat them, then gave them a taste of hopeless war

 

[Lykus Cerebros]

You can also just surrender if you don't want to be trapped in a long war. If it's a spiritualist empire it will just force you to remove the colony from the Holy world. Xenophobes just want you to dismantle a starbase next to their territory.

 

[Osiris1975]

You can also just surrender if you don't want to be trapped in a long war. If it's a spiritualist empire it will just force you to remove the colony from the Holy world. Xenophobes just want you to dismantle a starbase next to their territory.

Good point, that's even better but at the time I was still learning the game mechanics around this.