The Dark Lord Kelebek
- Mar 4, 2016
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That is quite an impressive definition of 'universality' he has there. It matters not what your faith is, or even if you believe in god, it only matters that you are Italian. Everyone else must be expelled.The Church has many flaws but, in the end, it has a universality and unity that cannot be found in other ideals.
a step in the right direction by expelling the foreigners
Well, he crowned himself, and pissed off the aristocracy of europe. This one getting crowned 'legitimately' by the Holy Father is probably a better route.
It is interesting to see that the new Pope has given up any pretence of being anything other than just another ambitious Italian leader. He is still mouthing some words about prayer and piety, but if it came out he was agnostic, or even full blown atheist, I genuinely would not be surprised at this point. Plus of course there is this;
That is quite an impressive definition of 'universality' he has there. It matters not what your faith is, or even if you believe in god, it only matters that you are Italian. Everyone else must be expelled.
If we could have a brief diary exert from the current Anti-Pope that would be interesting. Because when the Bishop of Rome is saying things like that, there has to be an Anti-Pope loudly damning the false-Pope Innocent XIV as a non-believing heretic who has abandoned the faith and his duties to God in his lust for temporal power.
Damn it, I've been had! My inspiration is out in the open for all to see! I wouldn't say Innocent XIV is fully up to Pius' level but an upcoming fellow is going to be a less sedate Pius XIII if you can imagine that.
PS. I loved the conclave scene in The New Pope and that gave me the impulse for the conclave chapters here
There are still good men in the church. But...not enough?
Modest enough reforms, but reforms even so. The question of Italy though ... conundrum is a good word. But then, he says it best in the final line we have:
We have an interesting future to look forward to.
Innocent viewed through Lisi's eyes feels a bit too… diffident, is the word I'll use. He seems basically kitted out for spiritual conviction (or about as much as a mid c19 pontiff can be ITTL), but lacks an ounce of courage in more worldly matters of compassion. Where's Voiello when you need him…
You can understand why the Church would be against educating children. They might start asking awkward questions if they were educated.
Once again the church confirms that any Catholic who isn't Italian should either find a new faith or accept being a second class (or worse) citizen. I look forward to the next 'reform' when non Italian cardinals are banned from the Curia and College for being impure.
Lisi seems a decent sort of chap, and humble enough to accept being the power behind the throne if he found a candidate for pontif willing to put forward his policies?
He's amoral, will abandon his principles if his boss asks and doesn't give a stuff about God, his flock or anyone not Italian. So I imagine Innocent wants to give him a medal of some kind and a promotion. Those are the core qualities the pope is looking for in his senior churchmen.What might Innocent possibly have in store for him back in Rome?
He's amoral, will abandon his principles if his boss asks and doesn't give a stuff about God, his flock or anyone not Italian. So I imagine Innocent wants to give him a medal of some kind and a promotion. Those are the core qualities the pope is looking for in his senior churchmen.
And yet, the mysterious and enticing libero emerges yet again. Is this our next pope? A problem for the establishment? Merely a very useful and popular lackey?
Going back I do wonder if Libero may prove to be a sort of intensely worldly Leo XIII, who recognises that there is a lot of dirty work to be done to drag the mechanisms of the Church into the modern world. But that doesn't entirely seem like the sort of thing a Pope necessarily need deal with, as opposed to an exceptional functionary. Maybe he's our secretary of state.