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Yeah...I think it's time to back away slowly from the French Empire (soon to be French republic again from the looks of things). and see if Austria and Prussia feel like being bros again. Otherwise, I can't see the Papal states taking Italy. If their sponsor is France, there's just too much temptation to just take more and more of the alps for themselves.

I'm beginning to wonder if they'll ever succeed though, given that so far the Papacy has managed to get a small colony in Greece, a fairly fraught border with Austria, and split the two Sicily's into two separate realms.

...hardly the stuff of legend.
 

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I never took the Pope for a warmonger but he has attacked more countries in the last decade than any pontiff I have ever seen.
I may be as old fashioned as Cangiano, but I do think the correct number of wars for a Pope to declare is zero. Anything about that and I feel they are automatically a warmonger, if only by Papal standards. (Crusades do, of course, belong in a separate column and do not count towards that total).

but I cannot seem to make peace with Callixtus' behavior.
That's OK, Callixtus can't seem to make a lasting peace either.

This has caused some small African tribes no end of misery but at least I have kept Europe from erupting into flames.
And is that not the main thing? It's not like God would enact an ironic revenge on those responsible for such things.

I pray constantly to God that he might protect his people from the onslaught and deliver me from evil
God works quickly these days.

Cardinal Cangiano was the last relevant cardinal born in the 1700s and fully shows it by identifying with the ideals of a bygone age.
This is clear, he keeps banging on about God for starters and it is rumoured he actually tries to follow what is in the Bible. You won't get anywhere in the Papal States with those sort of ridiculous 'ideals'.
 

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but I do think the correct number of wars for a Pope to declare is zero.

Deus Vult???

(Crusades do, of course, belong in a separate column and do not count towards that total).

Well they certainly don't count as wars, given how most caulsaties tend to be anyone and everyone except the designated target of the crusade itself...
 

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Well they certainly don't count as wars, given how most caulsaties tend to be anyone and everyone except the designated target of the crusade itself...
Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.
 

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Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.

They've certainly adopted that philosophy somewhat more extremely here. After all, there's no need to worry about killing Christians if God will save them in the afterlife. Indeed, this is probably how they're justifying murdering a load of seriously devout Catholics in Italy and Austria.
 

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That's a pretty significant shift, the Hohenzollerns getting the Spanish throne. Not that it matters with the Bourbons out of the way in France, I suppose, but France and Prussia both fighting two-front wars is certainly an interesting twist on the usual 1870 carnage.

Cangiano is… well, as you say, he's not exactly the most relevant of cardinals, but he does at least not seem to have made any gaping errors of diplomacy. But this is a very dangerous time for the Papacy, particularly if Germany forms – not so much for the diplomatic implications, but for what it will do for nationalism in Europe. Now or never for Rome, really. I think the longer we have to wait for it, the more vanishing a possibility the Risorgimento becomes.
 

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Yeah...I think it's time to back away slowly from the French Empire (soon to be French republic again from the looks of things). and see if Austria and Prussia feel like being bros again. Otherwise, I can't see the Papal states taking Italy. If their sponsor is France, there's just too much temptation to just take more and more of the alps for themselves.

I'm beginning to wonder if they'll ever succeed though, given that so far the Papacy has managed to get a small colony in Greece, a fairly fraught border with Austria, and split the two Sicily's into two separate realms.

...hardly the stuff of legend.

Yes, France is probably not going to be the nice reliable ally it once was. Many people have started to look to Germany either as a friend or as a model but it might take time to convince them to help.

The Papacy has been struggling at the edge of Europe for a while but by crippling Piedmont-Sardinia it has at least become the strongest contender in Italy, if not by much.

I may be as old fashioned as Cangiano, but I do think the correct number of wars for a Pope to declare is zero. Anything about that and I feel they are automatically a warmonger, if only by Papal standards. (Crusades do, of course, belong in a separate column and do not count towards that total).

I agree with your idea on the number of Pope wars and it's something that others are beginning to voice as well. It won't be resolved anytime soon but a solution will be suggested at some point.

This is clear, he keeps banging on about God for starters and it is rumoured he actually tries to follow what is in the Bible. You won't get anywhere in the Papal States with those sort of ridiculous 'ideals'.

Constantine himself got baptized at the end of his life, there is quite a bit of sin involved with governance, I'm afraid.

That's a pretty significant shift, the Hohenzollerns getting the Spanish throne. Not that it matters with the Bourbons out of the way in France, I suppose, but France and Prussia both fighting two-front wars is certainly an interesting twist on the usual 1870 carnage.

Cangiano is… well, as you say, he's not exactly the most relevant of cardinals, but he does at least not seem to have made any gaping errors of diplomacy. But this is a very dangerous time for the Papacy, particularly if Germany forms – not so much for the diplomatic implications, but for what it will do for nationalism in Europe. Now or never for Rome, really. I think the longer we have to wait for it, the more vanishing a possibility the Risorgimento becomes.

It was an absolutely massive Franco-Prussian war but Prussia is extremely scary as always. Hohenzollern Spain won't last too long (much like Savoyard Spain) but it will cast a long shadow.

The window for Risorgimento has been closing for a while and the players know it, they will have to decide if they prefer to cling to independence or relevance.
 
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From the personal diaries of Pope Callixtus IV

Thursday 14 November 1861
I still have to refrain from looking around me when people ask for the Pope but today I have finally begun to take actions beyond the simple acts of everyday governance. The Lord has chosen me to guide his flock and I must assume that the experiences I have had so far are to be a guide for the future. Back in the days of Gregory, so long ago now, I realized that the only way in which the Church will remain relevant in the future is to open itself up to change and listen freely to those new ideas that the world brings us. Guaranteeing publishing rights to everyone who has the means to do so was one of the first thoughts I had when gifted with my burden but it has taken me so long to smooth away the fears and doubts of the Curia. Thanks to all this work, my seal now lies upon a law that guarantees free speech to anyone who wishes to criticize my government and the repurposing of the old state-controlled newspaper. Now that I can no longer simply go among the people and speak to them, it is imperative that I know their struggles.
The loudest cries for reform come from the Peloponnese. I never understood what Urban was thinking in his decision to subjugate the Greeks but now the time has come to rectify this mistake as well as my powers allow me. Since the conquest, the native Greeks have been treated as second-class citizens without the ability to rise in local government and clauses in the legal system that forces them to defer to both mainland and immigrant Italians. So far, the answer to their dissatisfaction was the suppression of their voice but I cannot see this reach any solution until the Greeks are entirely gone. Consequently, I have decided that I will set the equality between Greek and Italian into law. I will ask Cardinal Lisi to help me with the details to ensure the cleanest possible transition and finally interrupt the cycle of violence that has already claimed too many.

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Monday 16th of February 1863
Today was a refreshing return to my younger days when I could just go around talking to people without ten secretaries micromanaging everything. I visited the arms factory just outside Rome and personally inspected the premises to ensure that the workers are well treated and my industrial legacy is not tarnished. I made a point of appearing unannounced and the palette of expressions that went across the faces of laborers and overseers is certainly something I'd love to see again. It's an amusing party trick if nothing else. In any case, I talked with some of the employees to gauge their satisfaction with the establishment and which ideas they had for an improvement in their conditions. While I did not find confirmation for the horror stories I heard about from certain foreign factories, I was struck by the number of injuries that can and do happen from time to time. This was combined with an ample range of salaries for individuals with the same responsibilities where strong young men would make up to twenty grani each week while women, children, and the elderly could barely reach ten. These are minute quantities and I understand the logic behind them but no person can live with a modicum of dignity for just ten grani.
My round of interviews was interrupted by the arrival of a few of the main shareholders in the company, some of whom I recognized from receptions at Andrea's house and others from my earlier days of investment promotion. They all looked rather distressed and asked me if I had been approached by any Socialist firebrands but I reassured them that no such thing had happened and I explained my findings to them. We then discussed how an increase in pay might be requested by their employees and how a change might be obtained. I was told that the workers did not have a say in the size of their income but they were informed of the sum upon employment. A long discussion proceeded from this premise where I told these gentlemen that it was their sacrosanct right to profit off of their investments but they could do so without forcing their laborers into grievous injuries and starvation. For the rest of the day, we hammered out a deal on where to go next and what measures should be implemented, each tempering the other's fervor. Finally, we agreed that all workers, no matter their condition, should be paid a minimum of fourteen grani every week and, to address the issues that might arise, that they could join a union under a Papal Legate who will inform me of any common complaints that arise and need to be addressed.
It was one of the most exhausting days in my recent memory but I am convinced that its fruits will be most sweet. I will have to consult with members of the Curia to extend this solution to all Papal territories but I doubt they will resist me on this. With this mission, I feel that I may finally understand what I was put in this place to do.

Wednesday 30th of September 1868
I am still cleaning up the macabre fruits of my war. I received a fresh reminder when I noticed an increased amount of children who work in factories and reports of many that die in mines across the country. This made me ask them why they pursued such dangerous jobs and if there were none for their parents. I received the same answer every time: their fathers had died or been mutilated beyond working.
I thought that Innocent's school system would take care of these children until they were old and durable enough to not die or be injured in such numbers. I was wrong. The two years of cursory education that they receive, are not sufficient to educate fatherless youth. What they would need is a longer course of study up to eleven or twelve years. I've almost concluded the final touches on my plan of a curriculum but I feel that it is not enough.
I have thought that unscrupulous people might choose to forego the education of their children, even for free, with the desire to send them to work for more profit. With this in mind, I've started work on a partial prohibition on hard labor for minors. I've only discussed the plan with a few confidants so I'm not sure what the measure will include or exclude yet but I feel that it is my moral obligation.
I am sure that my burden will not become any lighter in the coming years. I only hope that I am doing the right thing.

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Thursday 7th of July 1870
I often question the wisdom of the Holy Spirit in choosing me for this position. I would have been a much better servant than I am a leader but I understand that it is not my place to judge. In the third war of my Papacy, I am tired of slaughter, especially for lands so distant as Alsace-Lorraine, and, in that spirit, I have decided to keep the Papal forces around Milan where the wounds of the Piedmontese conflict are still fresh. When I visited the city a few months ago, I saw the cheering crowds along the path of my parade but some darker faces being kept at bay by the guards told a different and dangerous story. I do not wish to make another Peloponnese out of Lombardy but the reports I have received greatly discouraged me.
Pamphlets that advocate for the freedom of Milan are in wide circulation and I am informed that vast amounts of weapons have been disappearing from the market. My intelligence has given me estimates that over seventy-thousand Milanese might be ready to take up arms against the Papal garrison. Our tired and undermanned army would have a hard job suppressing a revolt of that magnitude and, even if it could, I doubt that a massacre of such proportions would endear me to the Venetians and the Greeks, not to mention the Lord our Father.
I am told that the protests stem mostly from the impoverished pockets of the region's cities and their desires for further rights. Accounts on the state of Piedmont's labor laws were conflicting, with some claiming that they are comparable to ours and others who believe that we are miles ahead of their standards. Regardless of the truth of these rumors, it is clear that I must appeal to these people to ensure the safety and stability of the region. A first element that should calm them will be opening up the administration of workers' unions to the workers themselves. I can already hear Cardinal Cangiano rail about the risk of Socialists taking control of these institutions but I don't see this as much of a problem as long as they accept the government of the Church. Finally, I am sure that an increase in the minimum salary will have them look favorably upon the new management. I was thinking to establish the base at twenty-two grani per week and slowly increasing it each year up to thirty-one by 1875.
I hope that these provisions will be sufficient to win over the protesters to my side. If not, then I hope that I will be forgiven for my role in the troubles to come.
 
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A long discussion proceeded from this premise where I told these gentlemen that it was their sacrosanct right to profit off of their investments

Oh dear.

but they could do so without forcing their laborers into grievous injuries and starvation.

“Pretty please.”

they could join a union under a Papal Legate who will inform me of any common complaints that arise and need to be addressed.

We are definitely on the road to some sort of Estado Novo–style synarchist/corporatist state here.

With this mission, I feel that I may finally understand what I was put in this place to do.

Rerum novarum incoming in 10, 9, 8…

I have thought that unscrupulous people might choose to forego the education of their children, even for free, with the desire to send them to work for more profit.

No one in the position where they have to send their children to work can possibly be making any profit, so Papa needn’t worry there.

My intelligence has given me estimates that over seventy-thousand Milanese might be ready to take up arms against the Papal garrison.

Ah, okay. So we’re squaring up for a battle between two Italies, really: the one, a synarchist war-machine on a brutal mission to unify the peninsula, and the other out to stop this unholy formulation subjugating the Italian people. It would be quite the feat if the Papacy actually turned people against Italian nationalism.
 

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So far, the answer to their dissatisfaction was the suppression of their voice but I cannot see this reach any solution until the Greeks are entirely gone.

Um...what's he planning here, exactly? Starting to get CK3 flashbacks.
 

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Consequently, I have decided that I will set the equality between Greek and Italian into law. I will ask Cardinal Lisi to help me with the details to ensure the cleanest possible transition and finally interrupt the cycle of violence that has already claimed too many.
I'm sure the Greeks are annoyed about the lack of equality, but the main problem is that they really don't want to be part of the Papal States. When even actual Italians don't want to be, why on earth would anyone else?

As it's unlikely he would lie to his personal diary I am forced to conclude the Pope really is that stupid.

Um...what's he planning here, exactly? Starting to get CK3 flashbacks.
"Will no-one rid me of these turbulent Greeks?"

When the massacres start, which they probably already have, there will be a long debate about whether the Pope was culpable or just a naive idiot.
 

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'm sure the Greeks are annoyed about the lack of equality, but the main problem is that they really don't want to be part of the Papal States. When even actual Italians don't want to be, why on earth would anyone else?

Does raise the interesting possibility of Catholics immigrating to or pressuring their country to join a different version of the papal states. Maybe something like a paper federation, where the individual Catholic nations remain, but place the pope back on a medieval level of power over them all.

Technically could even be acceptable to democracies since the papacy, though an absolute monarchy, is technically democratically elected. Could lead to further splits in the faith between the countries that are part of such an arrangement (and thus get heavily favoured cardinal and papal voting power) compared to those that live outside such places.

But all that presupposes a far smarter papal administration than the one we have, and a mutual respect and fervour for their faith, which is soundly lacking. I have a feeling this papal states will go the way of Austria Hungary. And ungodly mess when it existed, where even the favoured nation within it didn't like the state very much, and slowly (or quickly) falls to pieces.

Can sympathise with Italian nationalists here. When the strongest force for unification is the papal states, its a bit depressing. Even if you succeed, the resulting nation, though powerful, will shortly be receiving wave after wave of devout Catholic immigrants from around the world whenever their home country does something they disapprove of. In the long run it would be a net possitivr for Italy, but nationalists don't tend to like loads and loads of immigrants no matter how useful.
 

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Oh dear.



“Pretty please.”



We are definitely on the road to some sort of Estado Novo–style synarchist/corporatist state here.



Rerum novarum incoming in 10, 9, 8…



No one in the position where they have to send their children to work can possibly be making any profit, so Papa needn’t worry there.



Ah, okay. So we’re squaring up for a battle between two Italies, really: the one, a synarchist war-machine on a brutal mission to unify the peninsula, and the other out to stop this unholy formulation subjugating the Italian people. It would be quite the feat if the Papacy actually turned people against Italian nationalism.

Yes, synarchist absolute monarchical theocracies are all the rage in the *checks notes* 19th century.
Some people were quite into Pius IX taking the reins over Italy but that would have been a different formulation under a more conservative papacy.

Um...what's he planning here, exactly? Starting to get CK3 flashbacks.

In fairness, he's not really suggesting it but he can see how someone else might envision a more...permanent solution

I'm sure the Greeks are annoyed about the lack of equality, but the main problem is that they really don't want to be part of the Papal States. When even actual Italians don't want to be, why on earth would anyone else?

As it's unlikely he would lie to his personal diary I am forced to conclude the Pope really is that stupid.


"Will no-one rid me of these turbulent Greeks?"

When the massacres start, which they probably already have, there will be a long debate about whether the Pope was culpable or just a naive idiot.

Yeah, the whole Peloponnese has turned into a Northern Ireland/Algeria/*insert topical ethnic conflict caused by imperialism here* and Callixtus is just trying to make their prison as comfortable as possible without kicking out the Italians who have lived there for decades now.
There is no large scale massacring going on now but a more Old Testament-style pope has all the tools for something terrible

Does raise the interesting possibility of Catholics immigrating to or pressuring their country to join a different version of the papal states. Maybe something like a paper federation, where the individual Catholic nations remain, but place the pope back on a medieval level of power over them all.

Technically could even be acceptable to democracies since the papacy, though an absolute monarchy, is technically democratically elected. Could lead to further splits in the faith between the countries that are part of such an arrangement (and thus get heavily favoured cardinal and papal voting power) compared to those that live outside such places.

But all that presupposes a far smarter papal administration than the one we have, and a mutual respect and fervour for their faith, which is soundly lacking. I have a feeling this papal states will go the way of Austria Hungary. And ungodly mess when it existed, where even the favoured nation within it didn't like the state very much, and slowly (or quickly) falls to pieces.

Can sympathise with Italian nationalists here. When the strongest force for unification is the papal states, its a bit depressing. Even if you succeed, the resulting nation, though powerful, will shortly be receiving wave after wave of devout Catholic immigrants from around the world whenever their home country does something they disapprove of. In the long run it would be a net possitivr for Italy, but nationalists don't tend to like loads and loads of immigrants no matter how useful.

Funny you should talk about federation... With Germany forming before Italy in this timeline it will be a significant model. That and Gioberti's theories have gained traction with an ascendant papacy.

It's not the best time for liberal unitarians and especially republicans but some people would rather take a unified Italy under the current deal than none at all.
 
Chapter XXVI: We Were for Centuries Downtrodden, Derided

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From the personal diaries of Cardinal Giulio Felicetti

Tuesday 23rd of February 1870
I am speechless at the state of Milan after the French occupation, artillery damage and soldiers' bivouacs are now the city's main attraction. If only that dunce Formica had acted with the least bit of competence, then we would have had the city and taken proper care of it. Of course, I was the preferred candidate to lead the endeavor, but the Pope must have been hard-pressed to choose between a typhoid-ridden competent man and a healthy incompetent one. In any case, I am happy to return to my archbishopric in the guise of a governor and recover my strength in a familiar environment.
Say what you will about the Savoyards, but they knew what they were doing with Lombardy. The regional administration will require minimal change and, since most of the Piedmontese officials have left already, it will probably amount to nothing more than filling a few vacancies in the upper levels. The industry is also quite impressive overall although the French got far too comfortable with their occupation and confiscated a lot of material from the factories in the area. This has led to the unemployment of approximately half the craftsmen in Lombardy and significant social unrest. Since Callixtus has given me great autonomy in my actions, I have decided to begin my government with the donation of large incentives to the Milanese capitalists so that they may get the economy up and running before the workers are poisoned against us.
It is strange to see that the prominent families have remained entirely unchanged if only the Austrian cockades are swapped for the Papal ones. That is a great flaw of my home, it has grown soft under foreign rule for the last three hundred years and its upper class has degenerated into spineless servants for whoever is the ruler du jour. The people at least had the courage to rebel against the Austrians back in '48 but their planning was lacking as it often is with such things. Now, it comes to me to whip this city into shape and ensure that only the useful nobles remain while the others are made aware of their pointlessness.
This reminds me that I really must pay a visit to my parents since I have postponed it for quite long enough at this point. I remember how confused and disappointed they looked when I told them I wanted to become a priest. "But you could do anything you want" they said, as if I had not thought of that every time I surpassed my peers and finally caught a glimpse of the divine. For what better way is there to use one's gifts than to serve omnipotent God and give thanks for everything He bestows upon us? In giving thanks, I was not surprised to find that I rose through the ranks until my current station, proof once again that the Lord provides for his faithful.
I should consider these thoughts for my first mass in Papal Milan, I must make the people understand that we are not here to oppress them like those that came before but rather to make them better and give them a privileged place among the Catholic nations.

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Thursday 7th of July 1870
Today was quite eventful with a fulfilling briefing on the status of the manufactory and some unsettling news from the Pope.
The Milanese industry has managed to recover from the effects of the occupation and the supply lines have been redirected towards Rome. At this moment there is a total of approximately sixty-thousand laborers in factories across Lombardy which add up to over twice the number that can be found in the rest of the Papal States. Despite all of the work done, I still find peasants pouring into the city with cries for further jobs. To deal with this, I have chosen to make a considerable investment into the expansion of a pre-existing small arms factory in Monza which will cover the workers' needs for a while. In the meantime, I have conducted frequent sermons at mass on the futility of just bundling up one's wealth and not putting it out in the service of the State and Christ. After all, "it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God" so men must endeavor to spend their money in productive endeavors and not rest upon it without effort. To my great satisfaction, this has gotten many in the old family circle to follow my indications and a prodigious number of industrial distilleries has begun to grow in the countryside.
It would only be good news if not for the one from Rome. I assume that the blasphemous Lisi put these ideas into the Pope's head, but it seems that Callixtus believes the Lombard situation to be dangerously unstable and he has bent under this unseen pressure. I simply heard the grumbling of some malcontents who whine to make up for the irrelevance of their lives but it appears that the magnitude of the threat has swollen with each kilometer from here to Rome. And so, the pope has decided to not only allow for worker-led unions but even to allow them to be explicitly socialist in nature. Imagine that. Not just allowing, but protecting the spread of seditious ideas that threaten the Church itself. I did not much mind Callixtus at first but ever since the Vatican Council I lose confidence in his faith with each passing day. The simple fact that the Bible, the divinely mandated word of God, could be reinterpreted based on information of dubious provenance is absolutely inconceivable to me and I am outraged that there was not deeper resistance during deliberations. This situation is all Lisi's fault, of course, he accosts every opponent with honeyed words and dulls his antagonist's mind to the point that they can no longer think with enough clarity to repel this heresy. This arch-puppeteer even tried his tricks on me once, compliments and praise and friendly gestures while he concocted the most bitter of poisons. Thankfully, the Lord instilled me with ample faith to resist such subterfuge and I stood firm in my resistance. Unfortunately, that was not enough to alter the course of the council but at least the Lord will know his own.
These are the thoughts that plagued me this day and I felt the strongest need to write them down as if to exorcise the wrathful sin that had begun to build up within me. With this exercise, I can feel the calm of virtue return to me and my soul. I must not indulge in rage but plan and struggle so that the object of my fury shall be no more and justice be re-established. The Lord, in His wisdom, will give me the patience for the task.

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Friday 15th of December 1871
I have taken my time with this pope and given him the benefit of the doubt regarding the policies he has enacted but today is the last straw. In the past, he made some changes to resist real or perceived threats from the population and, while I do not condone this sort of behavior, it was a misguided attempt to fix a problematic situation, but he has begun to upend the social order without any real need for the modification or thought of its consequences. For example, he recently prohibited children from doing physically demanding labor which may sound like a compassionate idea in theory but will surely result in greater suffering for families since their sons and daughters will not be allowed to earn their keep but be a drain on resources until they reach an arbitrary age at which they can finally give back to their struggling parents. He then goes on to try and fix his blunder with the forced introduction of a minimum wage upon employers who are punished for their investments by having to support those parasites who can do work of abysmal quality and still be paid as if they had done well. The Lord himself tells us in the parable of the barren fig tree that those who do not bear fruit should be cut down and not simply allowed to be a burden on their productive neighbors.
I have been raging against these reforms for quite a while, first with a private display of disapproval and recently in public so that I may ensure that the Church's resources are not squandered but put towards its betterment. However, my pleas to those in power have fallen upon deaf ears and it is time that I find alternative means to do my work. I have sent out feelers to find cardinals or potential cardinals that are equally as worried about the current situation as I am. As I expected, there is no lack of resentment for Callixtus' changes and I have managed to form a small bloc for myself with the aim of making our voice heard in case of new proposals.
I think that the group is of a good size for the time being but I am interested in swaying Cardinal Andreano to my side, he has expressed concerns with the Vatican Council and, though he has not committed to my cause yet, he seems both influential and malleable enough to carry other cardinals with him. On the future cardinal front, I have met with a young theologian called Vincenzo Fatta who has intrigued me significantly. His Sardinian birth has hardened him sufficiently to the government in Turin which is a safe political position and, in the meantime, his religious studies have brought him to my same conclusion in terms of the pope's heterodoxy. As such, I have decided to sponsor this rising star and ensure in one way or another that he will grow to aid me in the fight for proper interpretation of the scriptures.
A new chapter is opening and I can feel that my prayers will soon be answered.
 

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The capitalist cardinals are on the rise...
 

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Great AAR! I bookmarked this thread for updates. Victoria II sounds like an interesting game to play, need to check out if it is for sale in the Steam store.
 

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Cardinal Felicetti seems like a real nasty peice of work. With such a hatred of the poor and such a love of the capitalists I've surprised he hasn't ran away and became a protestant.
 
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Industrialization in God's own Country? That is surely heresy! :p

Cardinal Felicetti seems like a real nasty peice of work. With such a hatred of the poor and such a love of the capitalists I've surprised he hasn't ran away and became a protestant.

Lol! So on point! xD
 
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