Annexing Woes

[JonnyA]

It is early 1941, I am playing the UK. Germany invaded Greece, I sent a couple of divisions but it was a lost cause so I pulled them out in time and sent them and a couple of Greek divisions to Crete, waiting to see if the Axis would try to invade.

Instead, a week later I got an event 'Italy Annexes Greece', suddenly my divisions have vanished and Italy controls Crete.

Does this always happen when a country is annexed? Is it possible to prevent it in the game, or is it a bug, and fixable?

 

[unmerged(189717)]

Please check weather your troops are in the troop pool on their way to London or not.

 

[Denniss]

It really happened what you told us then your troops should be gone. If there are no victory points assigned to crete then germany or italy annex greece if they occupy the greek mainland.
In Core we have VP on Crete and an event that switches Crete to UK control to prevent just this situation. Germany/Italy may annex Greece but have to invade Crete to get a stronghold in the Med.

 

[elbasto]

Check the log.

You've probably missed the invasion of Crete. Paratroopers maybe?

If your forces were fighting as expeditionary forces to Greece, you might have been deprived of a notification.

Crete has a VP and they need to conquer it in order to annex Greece.

 

[unmerged(189717)]

Crete has a VP

It no longer has a VP (since DD or so).

 

[piratefish]

It would be nice if there were some feature that considered the presence of allied troops in an annexed country's provinces. If there are allied troops present in a given province, they are not going to just up and strategically redeploy to their capital simply because their ally capitulated. They would, at very least, need to fight their way out or be forced to surrender.

I know this is possible in the game mechanics because it has happened to me more than once playing as Germany. After the Vichy event fires, I have had Belgian troops remaining in German occupied France that have attempted to escape/capture additional territory. Obviously, then, the engine is capable of recognizing that allied troops remain in a newly annexed/conquered country and are capable of (limited) operations until supplies run out.

 

[JonnyA]

My division has disappered, it is not in the force pool. The Greeks may be floating around somewhere, but I doubt it.

There was definitely no invasion, as I was all keyed up waiting for it. Midnight rolled by, the log told me that Italy had annexed Greece, the province changed colour and the units vanished.

I agree that this seems to be a bug, and quite an annoying one. Surely provinces that contain units that are enemies of the annexing country shouldn't change ownership. If this is too difficult to change, please add a VP to Crete and any other obvious candidates for this problem.

 

[Iberville]

Is there a way (mod/cheat code?) to add new divs to a current force pool? I'd like to do that if it happens to me; say I lose 3 DIVs because of a bad game engine, how can I have them back?

 

[Blecky]

My division has disappered, it is not in the force pool. The Greeks may be floating around somewhere, but I doubt it.

There was definitely no invasion, as I was all keyed up waiting for it. Midnight rolled by, the log told me that Italy had annexed Greece, the province changed colour and the units vanished.

I agree that this seems to be a bug, and quite an annoying one. Surely provinces that contain units that are enemies of the annexing country shouldn't change ownership. If this is too difficult to change, please add a VP to Crete and any other obvious candidates for this problem.

Once a nation has surrendered all its forces are abandoned. If you have sent your troops as expeditionary forces then they were considered Greek for this purpose and have surrendered, too. If they were still British then they would hold the province as occupier. This also happens when Belgium forces are still present on French soil and Vichy is triggered.

 

[JonnyA]

I had two Greek divisions and a NZ division. The NZ division was under my control and was not an expeditionary force. It still vanished as described.

 

[Blecky]

I had two Greek divisions and a NZ division. The NZ division was under my control and was not an expeditionary force. It still vanished as described.

Since NZ is also at war with Italy they should have stayed there. At least that´s the way it used to be. Don´t know if those changes are WAD.

 

[JonnyA]

Does anyone know if this is listed as a bug? Should I post it in the bugs section or will it get noticed here?