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Is it impossible to annex Japan in DW 5.1 (BJLT)? I cannot demand the capitals of dynamos in a peace negotiation and the total cost for annexing Japan itself is too high.

Each day that I occupy all the dynamos and Japans capitol I get a message saying the dynamos have been disbanded. The message keeps popping up over and over again, but nothing happens.

Does anyone know about a work around or how to annex Japan? Altering my savegame is not an option since I need to conquer Japan for an achievement.
 

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You could create a decision that lets you inherit JAP. Since inheriting JAP would disband Shogunate in earlier versions that could work.
 

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Hi. I had same exact issue in my recent wc game. It took 7 wars against japan to Annex. Keep occupying all provinces, negotiating for as many provs as you can. Eventually japan (thr opm) accepted annexation, and then I could annex the over two in the nExt war. Are all your Japanese factions opms yet? If not keep whittling!!
 

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Hi. I had same exact issue in my recent wc game. It took 7 wars against japan to Annex. Keep occupying all provinces, negotiating for as many provs as you can. Eventually japan (thr opm) accepted annexation, and then I could annex the over two in the nExt war. Are all your Japanese factions opms yet? If not keep whittling!!

How many dynamos were left when Japan finally allowed you to annex them? The problem is that all dynamos are left in my game and all of them are OPM.

What CB did you use to annex Japan? Were you playing 5.1 or 5.0? I annexed them without any problem in 5.0... but since the cost is over 900 % war score to vassalize them i figure it must be even higher for annexing. Hopfully I am wrong.
 

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How many dynamos were left when Japan finally allowed you to annex them? The problem is that all dynamos are left in my game and all of them are OPM.

What CB did you use to annex Japan? Were you playing 5.1 or 5.0? I annexed them without any problem in 5.0... but since the cost is over 900 % war score to vassalize them i figure it must be even higher for annexing. Hopfully I am wrong.

Imperialism CB.
5.1 BJLT.
Vassalise cost seems to have no bearing on annex cost in this case. The previous war i had checked that vassalisation cost and it was like 368 % or something. There were 2 or 3 daimyos when I annexed Japan. Sometimes the emperor will let you annex daimyos, at least it seemed that the Emperor ceded one of the capitals to me.

Just keep whittling!!
 

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Hmm, I'm pleased it seems to have worked to some degree at least for someone - in my July patch game, not 5.1 official, I got a daily message saying the Shogunate was disbanded, & after that, just Daimyos I couldn't do anything with or to. I'm still confused by what's meant to happen if you're a European power trying to annex/conquer Japan.
 

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Hmm, I'm pleased it seems to have worked to some degree at least for someone - in my July patch game, not 5.1 official, I got a daily message saying the Shogunate was disbanded, & after that, just Daimyos I couldn't do anything with or to. I'm still confused by what's meant to happen if you're a European power trying to annex/conquer Japan.

I got the messages too. They don't seem to help/harm any thing.
 

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I have tried everything but nothing helps. I sold them a 1 Base Tax, wrong culture, Muslim province and conquered their capital. Declared war again and still it says the cost in war score is too high to annex or vassilize them.

I have fought 14 wars against them and haven´t been able to take anything at all in the last eight. So there is absolutely nothing I can do to hurt them more. I also moved them to a province that was of my culture, religion and had my core. This made my core disappear so I got no conquest CB. But I funded nationalist rebels. When the rebels succeeded the simply disappeared with no result.

I am getting so tired of this. The Jihad achievement was completely broken in 5.0 and still is in 5.1. And now this. So I guess Paradox screwed this one up too?
 

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So I finally did it. I had to uninstall the game, install it again, but without the patch. The plan was to make Japan go bankrupt, force convert them to Islam, vassalize them and annex them. It worked.

I sold Japan a 1 Base Tax Muslim province in their culture group (my Ryukyu being Muslim). I attacked Japan and took their Capital province, leaving them with the poor province I sold to them earlier. I attacked again and embargoed them (me owning all CoT:s in Asia making it impossible for them to trade at all). My goal was to make them go bankrupt, which they refused to do. So I funded several nationalist, which was possible since my Ryukyu had made a culture shift to Chihan and the province being an old colony with my culture. Since Chihan share the same culture group as Japan they defected to Japan the same moment the province fell. Since I was afraid they would disband their army, I attacked again (stab hit of -5, ouch) to make them keep their army and raise upkeep. Since the rebels were funded by me, they did not fight my troops when I occupied their province. Japan being broke already and getting no income, instantly went bankrupt. So I made peace and funded some more rebels which made their government fall... and bang! Forced conversion. Japan became Muslim. Since I was playing 5.0 and not 5.1 I was then able to vassalize them (the cost for vassalization being 350 % warscore in 5.1 and 8 % warscore in 5.0). 10 years later I annexed them. Japan is gone from the map!

Compared to the Jihad achievement where you have to convert everything to Sunni Islam, while Najd being Shia Islam, this was almost easy. Anyways, this really annoys me. Paradox made two challenging achievements and screwed them both up.

I did not have any problems annexing Japan in earlier games. My guess is it is possible to annex them in a normal way if some of the Daimyos are gone from the map. So If you are lucky the AI will do the job for you.
 

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If the Diamyo AI was more likely to wage war on each other then this may not be a problem. Instead in most of my games they happilly sit there, grabbing random provinces around the world through external wars but have no internal wars. Maybe resetting Shogun influence on new monarch would help as it'd unlock the declare war function?

Japan formed in my current GB game, Minamoto inherited Fujiwara who had previously annexed/inherited the other two, too bad this wasn't my WC game!