Annexed. What next?

[Jabberwock262]

As the above post said, in the WWW where Daniel was Poland, his game did not end after his nation capitulated (something which surprised even Daniel). My guess is that if have any troops elsewhere, like say in colonies far from the mainland, you can still control those troops, or maybe hand them over to your allies as volunteers.

 

[Wimpola]

If you have overseas colonies or land you can still control that land but your government is in exile and you can do a lot less than if you were still a fully functional nation.

 

[seattle]

Hmm. I wonder if they scrapped it? Come to think of it, I don't remember hearing anything about governments-in-exile for a long time, either.

I hope they scratched that. It was one of the worst features in HoI3 and lead me to mod it out entirely.

 

[GhengisKhan]

Let us summon all the higher and lesser demons !

Anal Nathrach, udhras beothadh, dochioll dian fe...

Ha one of my favorite movies of all time.

 

[Kubusta]

I believe this was shown during the Poland WWW when Daniel capitulated but his game continued (he just had 0 manpower).

Now what you can or cannot do during this time is relatively unknown (at least to me). I'm assuming you can continue to control any units you have outside the area surrendering. That said, if you know you are going down perhaps there is a bit of strategy of knowing when to cut bait and run with a good portion of your army so you can keep up the fight and eventually liberate yourself later on in the game.

Well yea. I think the same. If you have any units elsewhere, in your allied terrotiry or so, you will control it. But then I don't know how does it work with supplies and so on. Or if you can do a research? IT would be nice to have a dev diary about it, that is true!

Well if you have colonies I believe you can maybe continue to fight from them as well but yeah, unsure if that will happen if most of your cores are eaten up, like if Dutch lose the homeland but do not join the allies are they a goner?

I don't know about that. I remember Japan from the Stream when he got mainland occupied, he hit his national unity and surrendered, though his other islands were still under his control and Daniel was slowly regaining his terrotires in Siberia. But he was in the faction, so it is a question what happens if you have colonies but you are not in a faction. In theory, I think that if you are not in a faction and you surrender, you capitulate fully and your all lands are available in a peace deal. But that is only my opinion..

 

[Ruck]

I've got a questions to more experienced HOI players. What happens when the nation you play get annexed? Can you still continue to play as the same nation and somehow try to regain your independence (I'm thinking playing as Poland)?

Im pretty sure that even someone who is totally new to the HOI series shouldnt have problems to survive as poland in the 1936 scenario in Hearts of Iron IV.
Daniel showed us that as a fact, when he played Hungary in the WWW.
Even when he played Poland in the 1939 he had quite a good chance, if you start in 1936, it should be possible to win vs Germany AI with Poland.

In HOI II + III it was so, that if lets say you play Poland and are in the Comintern, you could draw all your armys to moscow, but in the moment that Germany got all your Victory Points, you will capitulate ( automatically ), the game is over for you and all your troops will vanish ( yep, also the troops in moscow ).

That was pretty much an unrealistic system.
Though the AI could play further on in HOI III as exile government, but so I remember, the player couldnt.

If you are totally new to HOI IV and you want to play with Poland, it might be wise to play the 1936 scenario and maybe try to get the focus tree all down to join the Comintern, with the Soviets on your side and 3 years to build up your army, you should make impreza (Party) at the latest of 1941 in Berlin.

 

[OBRkenobi]

If this isn't in the base game, anyone else feel this might be a good DLC-like item?

It wouldn't make sense as DLC.

 

[BBBD316]

Well in DH there were events to signify getting volunteers from occupied Poland, etc.

For a player to just push Poland into an a-historical alliance is not too hard, but then the German AI should look to expand elsewhere. If Poland turns to the Russians I would even suggest that the French/British may become concerned about a worldwide revolution, heck that is what this Hitler guy is pushing.

So I wouldn't mind seeing allies inherit past of your manpower/ships/planes/etc. But I would imagine sitting there are Poland/Belgium until 1944ish would be pretty boring.

 

[ItsAdat]

It wouldn't make sense as DLC.

I'm curious to know why you think that.

 

[OBRkenobi]

I'm curious to know why you think that.

Because it's a small and rarely used mechanic that if implemented somehow, would most likely be included in a free patch. We should not have to pay for it.

 

[ItsAdat]

Because it's a small and rarely used mechanic that if implemented somehow, would most likely be included in a free patch. We should not have to pay for it.

I can agree with this