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Hello everyone,
i'm doing the portugal achievement All Blue and I noticed that my vassals doesnt get the -25 or -30 relation hit when i'm annexing another vassal
I cant remember seeing in some patch notes that the modifier was erased from the game.
 
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are they colonial nations
no no , to say it clearly , they are regular vassals , i'm portugal, so cant do weird vassals, i dont have colonial nations since i'm doing the achievement dont want to waste time with explo ideas

i have 8k hours so i know the basic difference with vassal and all of the other types of subjects (not to sound arrogant of course lol)

and weirdly enough, when i open the annex vassal on the relations tab, it is clearly said that my other vassal will get -30 relation hit so really dont get it why there isnt

i have up to tier 8 gov reform at this point and only one gives dip rep and nothing weird about annexation
i have diplo mercenary religious infrastructure ideas with the policy mercenaries + dipo who gains 2 relations slots but nothing on that

i have +93.5 improve relations i suppose its capped at 90 but maybe at 90 some modifier doesnt apply ? not aware of something like that but maybe ?
 

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That's actually super useful info for any Timurids run, because you start with more vassals than diplomats, so it used to be a bit of a headache because of the malus taking you under 190 opinion.
 

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The modifier seems to have been removed, I don't know whether it was on purpose though.

probably a big oversight or a new intern who f**ed up the code somehow since when you click on one of your vassal to see how long it will take etc its clearly noted that there will be a modifier for other vassals and for hre member if you're annexing a hre member

i just tested with savoy by annexing montferrat without no gov reform no estate privilege literally did nothing aside of allying france to be sure i dont die to burgundy , and geneva didnt get the modifier but every hre member got the penalty by annexing a hre member
 
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