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After annexing magna grecia in the first 2 months (a two province nation) I presumed the one province rule didn't apply in rome - but following more wars it appears it does, and it states it several times in the manual.
Can anyone explain why magna grecia is an exception to this?
 

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Magna Graecia isn't an exception. It is just that the limit was raised to two provinces in a patch some time back, so rather then just one province minors, two province minors can also be annexed. The value is in the file defines.txt (_DIPDEF_MAX_ANNEX_SIZE_ in the diplomacy section) in the common folder, should you desire to alter it, wether by going back to 1 or increasing it to a higher value.
 

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Interesting. The option was greyed out for the next 2 province minor (Epirus).
Did I perhaps miss a unit of soldiers somewhere that I have to kill? I presume I have to eliminate everything and not just capture the 2 provinces to get the annex option?
 

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It depends on the peace value of the provinces, which in turn depends on their population and civilization level. If the total war score cost to get both provinces is over 100%, you can't annex. If I recall correctly, the Epirus province is rather populous and high-civ, so it is likely that it is putting Epirus over the annex-in-one-go threshold.
 

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This is very strange. You don't have to eliminate the army so that annexation button appears. Sometimes the ai refuses your peace deal (annexation also) if it still has an army. You should check if Epirus went for Massilia or Emporium in Pyrrhic wars.
 

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It depends on the peace value of the provinces, which in turn depends on their population and civilization level. If the total war score cost to get both provinces is over 100%, you can't annex. If I recall correctly, the Epirus province is rather populous and high-civ, so it is likely that it is putting Epirus over the annex-in-one-go threshold.

That sounds the most likely explanation, though that's one heck of a province, wouldn't that make it well over 60%? probably closer to 80? Surely no province is that high at the earliest game start?
 

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It depends on the peace value of the provinces, which in turn depends on their population and civilization level. If the total war score cost to get both provinces is over 100%, you can't annex. If I recall correctly, the Epirus province is rather populous and high-civ, so it is likely that it is putting Epirus over the annex-in-one-go threshold.
That doesn't apply in Rome, only EU3. It's more likely the OP simply missed a province somewhere, or Epirus has a province held by an ally or something.
 

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That doesn't apply in Rome, only EU3. It's more likely the OP simply missed a province somewhere, or Epirus has a province held by an ally or something.

I eliminated their ally first (magna grecia) as I could get a seperate peace offer with them. I then took the two Epirus provinces (I believe the second is syracuse). It was 100% but still annex was greyed out.
 

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Just to make sure, what version are you playing with? As mentioned previously the annexation limit was changed in a patch (can't remember which one), so if you're playing with an earlier version the one province limit still applies.
 

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Just to make sure, what version are you playing with? As mentioned previously the annexation limit was changed in a patch (can't remember which one), so if you're playing with an earlier version the one province limit still applies.

As far as I know it's the latest version, and annexing magna grecia with two provinces was fine so I'm not sure what's going on. Not going to worry too much as I'm a lot further in now. Almost down to 3 countries.