I’ve been inspired by the Vicky 3 announcement and the pop systems to delve into some papers that before had only minor my interested me, and now are fascinating. So first of all, thanks for the inspiration devs.
I’d wait for a dev diary to ask about this usually but thought I’d speculate/ hope for some kind of mechanic to be at least thought of. Also, it’s been some years since I played Vicky 2 so if a kind of system for this does exist I apologise, I just got excited to look into the period ^^ It's also possible some kind of idea was mentioned in previous Vicky 3 info and I may have missed it.
I feel in previous titles, when you annex a new region the only kind of trouble you have is for example the autonomy system, which reduces the income as the populace slowly becomes more tolerant of your regime.
a paper I read on the German occupation of Alsace shows all the intriguing things at play in a real life situation in this period.
Is more always more? Usually in a paradox game after the province stabilises then yes this is usually the case. But it’s simply not so. Alsace was apparently producing similar levels of textiles to the entirety of the German market.
The German market sort to win the Alsace businesses continued access to french markets and reduced tariffs encouraging them to stay in the french market and out of the German market and indeed some short term conditions were achieved. However this did not last long. The Alsatian businesses meanwhile had to adapt to new German textiles. Retooling costs for the new machines were huge and many went out of business as such.
now I know modelling incredibly complicated issues over annexation is an overwhelming task but I wonder if little flavour events triggered occasionally at different intervals after annexation would be at all possible. Say Germany takes Alsace. Maybe the demand for German style textiles is too much for many of the factories in Alsace and many have to close causing rife unemployment in the region.
Alternatively, maybe an event where they have managed to get over the hump and adapted successfully to the German market, but now you have the same problem with the outcompeted businesses originally in Germany, causing discontent there.
obviously I have not fully fleshed out such an idea and I know as stated before it could be quite some job, I just love the idea of annexations being a much more complicated situation than: this has more. I get more. All fine after few years.
Alsatian instability in this example lasted for many many many years and caused various hostilities and market concerns for a long time.
I’d wait for a dev diary to ask about this usually but thought I’d speculate/ hope for some kind of mechanic to be at least thought of. Also, it’s been some years since I played Vicky 2 so if a kind of system for this does exist I apologise, I just got excited to look into the period ^^ It's also possible some kind of idea was mentioned in previous Vicky 3 info and I may have missed it.
I feel in previous titles, when you annex a new region the only kind of trouble you have is for example the autonomy system, which reduces the income as the populace slowly becomes more tolerant of your regime.
a paper I read on the German occupation of Alsace shows all the intriguing things at play in a real life situation in this period.
Is more always more? Usually in a paradox game after the province stabilises then yes this is usually the case. But it’s simply not so. Alsace was apparently producing similar levels of textiles to the entirety of the German market.
The German market sort to win the Alsace businesses continued access to french markets and reduced tariffs encouraging them to stay in the french market and out of the German market and indeed some short term conditions were achieved. However this did not last long. The Alsatian businesses meanwhile had to adapt to new German textiles. Retooling costs for the new machines were huge and many went out of business as such.
now I know modelling incredibly complicated issues over annexation is an overwhelming task but I wonder if little flavour events triggered occasionally at different intervals after annexation would be at all possible. Say Germany takes Alsace. Maybe the demand for German style textiles is too much for many of the factories in Alsace and many have to close causing rife unemployment in the region.
Alternatively, maybe an event where they have managed to get over the hump and adapted successfully to the German market, but now you have the same problem with the outcompeted businesses originally in Germany, causing discontent there.
obviously I have not fully fleshed out such an idea and I know as stated before it could be quite some job, I just love the idea of annexations being a much more complicated situation than: this has more. I get more. All fine after few years.
Alsatian instability in this example lasted for many many many years and caused various hostilities and market concerns for a long time.
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