Annex during peace negotiations?

[repent]

Hello there!

Just a quick question.

In EU Rome after a successful war, do you have to sue for peace leaving the enemy with one province, then declare war all over again (once the treaty expires) to annex the last province as in EU III?

e.g. Carthage has two provinces left at the start of the war. I defeat and occupy both provinces. Can I annex both provinces and thus eliminate Carthage or do I have to leave them with one province and fight another war further down the line?

If so is there a way of changing this?

 

[TheLand]

Hello there!

Just a quick question.

In EU Rome after a successful war, do you have to sue for peace leaving the enemy with one province, then declare war all over again (once the treaty expires) to annex the last province as in EU III?

yes.

If so is there a way of changing this?

no.

 

[repent]

yes.



no.

Darn.

Thanks for the reply anyway.

 

[RDG]

I think they should develop this. Sure, in medieval times, occupants had to regard what other surrounding empires feel about conquesting and annexing stuff. But in the ancient times? If I, as Rome invade the whole carthage empire, conquer several provinces from one end of the med sea to the other, burning down the capital itself and decide freely about the future of thousands of people that will end in my slavery, I will not leave anything left of it. Because I am the ruler, the hailed conqueror. This lands belong to us now. Of course Rome has to annex it. Who does care if other far kingdoms care? If I fear them, ok, I will leave cartage alive with some provinces. But if I dont, then I dont!!! But this game forces me to declare war again lateron, to keep me a nice guy or what?

 

[Cheexsta]

Antiochus III certainly cared when Rome annexed Macedonia (which had the equivalent of two provinces in the game: Macedonia and Thessaly).

I agree that the option should be open, though: if I want to take all of Carthage or Macedonia that has been reduced to two or more provinces, then I should be able to. This should be pretty easy to do via events, maybe? A check to see if an attacker holds all of a country's provinces, and then give the player the option of annexing all of the territory or settling a normal peace deal.

What I would really like would be the release of seperate vassals as part of a peace deal, like in EU2/3. If the Seleucids take over Egypt and I, as the Romans, invaded, I would prefer to set Egypt up as a seperate vassal rather than try to take the provinces myself.

Throw in Warnings and possibly even Fabricate Claims (the Seleucids and Ptolemies frequently made claims on lands between them, ie Koile-Syria, that led to war) as well, and diplomacy would be at a level I would be happy with...