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every cloud has a silver lining, no?

BB has now 14.5 k in treasury and advanced 1 trade level.

i built 2 weapons manus in copper or iron provs (dont remember) before i crashed.
 

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OE AAR:
- got instruction on severe gangbang of Spain, which was executed
- then was afk 90% of time for 2,5 hours
- built 27 governors, 36 bailiffs, 107 judjes, 6 wine manus
- send once a merchant to free slot to Austria, some time later once more. When i returned i found OE embargoed. I don`t know which way Brent prefers to think usually, but this action was hardly reasonable. So Austria was steamrolled, until over +70WS.
- Austria refuced 50 ducats peace, so following KJ traditions, i harshly increased my demands and doubled them when steamrolled them - peace was signed for 100 ducats.
- trade increased from 28 to 95 ducats, +1500 total year income (+31%), some deflation, Morocco dipannexed.
- +2 trade, NT18, at the end headed for LT race.
 
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I put together some stats based upon the stats site. We need to get joy from something in this campaign that is haunted by abscences during game time. :(

I have chosen three end saves, 1534 (my first session), 1683 (the last one) and 1619 (somewhere in the middle).

I have chosen the 6 strongest nations in the 1683 save. I inspect

INC = yearly income
MP = MP pool
∑T = Total tech level
I% = Inflation

To get the "total tech level" I simply added 1 for each NT/LT level and 6 for each infra/trade level (as there are 6 times as many LT/NT levels as there are infra/trade levels).

All numbers have been truncated or rounded to a suitable level.

Nations are presented in alfabethical level.


Code:
      ------ 1534 ------    ------ 1619 ------     ------ 1683 ------
        INC   MP ∑T  I%     INC   MP  ∑T  I%       INC  MP   ∑T  I%
ENG    1000   40  50   5    3800  110  96   7      6000  125  130   3
FRA     800  113  50   6    3600  180  78  29      7100  200  118  32
O E    2500  266  53   4    3300  350  84  17      6200  370  110   7
POR    1400   40  61   5    3800   38 105   9      9000   42  150   5
RUS     900  130  47   1    3500  290  63  17      4400  275   91  18
SPA    1300  109  57   8    1900  135  90  10      2300  180  121   6
 
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Daniel, it is possible to make automated with manual MP input.

You can look fortress level, number of CCs and shipyards and other inputs.
 
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Eh, what do you mean Tonio?

And great thanks for subbing. No doubt your weight made John's decision to give up without a fight even easier than did CRT+DotF+Turenne ;)

Imagine, due to all the abscences Turenne only saw action in one war and in this war no opponent dared to face him. What a waste. :mad:
 

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Daniel A said:
Eh, what do you mean Tonio?

produce reliable formula as you want to calculate power and you`ll see
 

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Daniel A said:
Code:
      ------ 1534 ------    ------ 1619 ------     ------ 1683 ------
        INC   MP ∑T  I%     INC   MP  ∑T  I%       INC  MP   ∑T  I%
RUS     900  130  47   1    3500  290  63  17      4400  275   91  18

Poor ghosted Russia. MP actually declined? What's up with that? Income is the same as the previous session.
 
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fraese said:
Poor ghosted Russia. MP actually declined? What's up with that? Income is the same as the previous session.

I do not really know. I was myself quite surprised by this so I started up as RUS this morning and checked but the number was exactly right.

It could have to do with MP from vassals. Did you have a vassal before but not now and are you on comparateively low centralisation?
 

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Daniel A said:
I do not really know. I was myself quite surprised by this so I started up as RUS this morning and checked but the number was exactly right.

It could have to do with MP from vassals. Did you have a vassal before but not now and are you on comparateively low centralisation?

No, Brandenburg's still my vassal and centralization is 10. I should get at least get my 2 dp moves compensation, btw, so I'll take those. I cannot figure out where that MP went, unless someone edited it down for me :confused:

Tonio, methinks your stats program needs a slightly more secure access system :D
 
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For this session I arranged 3 subs (labalag, Mulli and Tonio), for the previous (I think) 2 subs. This session we also had Fnuco subbing BB. Thus 4 subs in a game with 10 slots (not counting NL since it was ghosted).

So, 4 subs was not enough, we still lacked one in NL. Further more, during this session first John and then the sub Tonio were not present for quite some time and Mulli (sub) had to leave after an hour or so. Much of this meant that some of the well-made plans for the session went to naught.

And yes, we could not start at all until one hour after the official starting time.

I for one refuse to put so much work into finding subs as I have been doing lately. If the rest of you (except Fraese) had contributed to finding subs it would have been different but the lot of you appear quite passive in that regard.

We still have not heard from Rinak. He is probably too ashamed to post in this thread. And rightly so.

Billy lost his computer.

We need a NL a Sweden and an OE.

We must get at least two of them I think. And then who knows what other problems we will get the next weekend.

I myself have not missed one second of this game since I signed on the campaign. I have earlier spoken about dedication and I see that in some of you, less in some and almost none in some.

Judging from the percentage of prescence of perms during a session I consider this to be the worst campaign I have ever played in. The percentage must be around 60-70 or so only. I guess most campaigns are around 80%.

However, as always I enjoy playing. But I would have enjoyed it immensly more if we have had 80% or 90% prescence of perms. In Chill4, a carefully selected crew with a few newcomers who turned out to be great, I believe we have had more than 90% prescence. It is not impossible. It all has to do with choosing the right people as perms.

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Personally I believe I will give this campaign only one more chance. If we do not have a good session next weekend with good attendence I see little reason to continue it although things are starting to look bright for France.

It is then probably better that FAL starts up his new Sunday game with a more reliable crew.
 
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Daniel A said:
Personally I believe I will give this campaign only one more chance. If we do not have a good session next weekend with good attendence I see little reason to continue it although things are starting to look bright for France.

It is then probably better that FAL starts up his new Sunday game with a more reliable crew.

I'm of pretty much the same mind here, this campaign has always had a lot of potential and some interesting dynamics, but finding subs and perms has made it a real pain to GM. Hopefully we can get everyone together this weekend. If not, well, I guess people are entitled to vote with their feet in EU as anywhere.
 

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Daniel A said:
Billy lost his computer.

We need a NL a Sweden and an OE.

It is then probably better that FAL starts up his new Sunday game with a more reliable crew.


We have found the problem and hopefully Ill have it running by this session. Please arrange a sub anyways in case it does not fix. Thanks.
 

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fraese said:
I'm of pretty much the same mind here, this campaign has always had a lot of potential and some interesting dynamics, but finding subs and perms has made it a real pain to GM.

who made you to force start before DU1,5 was over and at rather late timeslot ?
 

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billy bob said:
We have found the problem and hopefully Ill have it running by this session. Please arrange a sub anyways in case it does not fix. Thanks.
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