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From 17/02/2015.
From 17/02/2015.
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AngryJoe Interviews Paradox CEO
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Gotta love Paradox for what they admit on camera. Go to any other dev and they would be making up excuses for that whole 45 minute session. Anyway, this was the nail in the coffin for Victoria III rumors.
Wow, going after the failures... I mean "learning experiences". That's the most important thing there in my eyes. It's good that they were willing to address it on camera, but better is that it sounds like they do view a failed game as a learning experience to make future products better.
Yeah that's something I took away from this as well. Recognizing and admitting something was a "failure" is one thing, "eey sh*t happens right?". But my respect is given to those who try to figure out how this happened and implements precautions to prevent it from happening again - solving the root cause. This is why I'm relieved that they've now matured enough with experiences from past launches to push the HOI4 release date forward, striving towards quality and satisfied customers on early release rather than walking through a sh*tstorm like TotalWar and erasing years of trust.
Then again, perhaps the financial situation is much better now after CK2 and EU4 that they can push things forward and ensure higher quality on release, from the interview it sounded like this was a privilege they didn't have previously.
Looking forward to the HOI4 release now, autumn can't come soon enough
I realize this is a 44min video, but can someone basically post the gist of it in text format? Not everyone wants to watch the whole video, I'm sure.
Basically there's no one on the creative team with the inspiration and passion for a Vicky 3 right now. I'm glad that's the case. Not that there's no one there with it, but if the audience is more passionate about the game than the developer, chances are it will fail to meet expectations.
He hit them with some tough questions about past failures and some discussion on DLC and their approach. There's no real teasers unless you count no Vicky 3 or Rome 2 in the works, although they do seem like they'd like them. Oh, and no Game of Thrones either. Not sure how much more there is to say without going into an essay.
Nothing much on EU4 so probably belongs in a general forum anyway.
...I'm honestly stumped, apart from being extremely disappointed. No Rome II, no Victoria III, but three games in the works. What else remains? Dark Ages, Cold War, Modern Days; the second, after EvW, is unlikely, and Johan has expressed extreme distaste for the third. It leaves minor games (which have been all terrible, up to now) or out-of-genre, which with Runemaster worked out...poorly. I can't see anything bright in PDS's future, to be honest.
Well CK3 can't come soon enough. CK2 seems dated and old in comparison now, and for as much flack as PDS took for AE mechanics, I simply cannot go back to the completely unchecked map painting that CK2 was, now that I actually understand how to play grand strategy games.
As for the other two games? I wouldn't mind seeing what PDS could do in the roguelike, 4X or RPG genres. As long as it's turn-based... and if they are working on a console-only shooter, I can promise them no money of mine.
As for the other two games? I wouldn't mind seeing what PDS could do in the roguelike, 4X or RPG genres. As long as it's turn-based... and if they are working on a console-only shooter, I can promise them no money of mine.
Very impressed with their candour regarding Sword of the Stars II. That one left a black mark on PDX for me. Overall their 'failures talk' was quite... uplifting is the word I find most fitting. I can't imagine anyone else, but a few others, to even engage someone like AJ with answers. Much less answers that are actually answers and not a long list of alibis or platitudes.
No Rome II, awww... Didn't play Rome I, but after CKII I really wanted something more in that direction and less EUIVish (not that I don't like EUIV). Oh well, they didn't exactly kill the idea, just it isn't within a few years.
I guess it was mostly an interview for fans, or perhaps more fitting, concerned fans. It certainly gave me a lot of peace of mind in regards to the future, despite it looking fairly empty. Odd really. I guess honesty does that.
No Rome II, awww... Didn't play Rome I, but after CKII I really wanted something more in that direction and less EUIVish (not that I don't like EUIV). Oh well, they didn't exactly kill the idea, just it isn't within a few years.
I guess it was mostly an interview for fans, or perhaps more fitting, concerned fans. It certainly gave me a lot of peace of mind in regards to the future, despite it looking fairly empty. Odd really. I guess honesty does that.
if they make CK3 before vicky3 I will go to stockholm myself and torch their HQ
I'm not ENTIRELY sure we can say this for sure. They've been joking about 'No Rome II' for long enough, that I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they flat out denied they were doing it right up until it was announced. They also may have been being a little canny about Victoria 3. They said it would happen when someone on the team had the passion and drive to make it. They did NOT say no one did. We were clearly meant to INFER no one did and it wasn't being worked on, but they may also have been being clever and mischievous in an attempt to keep it a surprise. The response came across as a little rehearsed and little ~carefully~ worded.
Now, I'm not saying either of those games is in development, and after that I'd be more inclined to bet against it, but I think there's a decent chance that they're playing clever word games and that at least one of those titles IS being worked on.
We'll see, I guess!
If we are to go in that direction then in the very interview they do say that they have been far to quick to announce things. This would just be an extreme move in the other direction.I'm not ENTIRELY sure we can say this for sure. They've been joking about 'No Rome II' for long enough, that I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they flat out denied they were doing it right up until it was announced. They also may have been being a little canny about Victoria 3. They said it would happen when someone on the team had the passion and drive to make it. They did NOT say no one did. We were clearly meant to INFER no one did and it wasn't being worked on, but they may also have been being clever and mischievous in an attempt to keep it a surprise. The response came across as a little rehearsed and little ~carefully~ worded.
Now, I'm not saying either of those games is in development, and after that I'd be more inclined to bet against it, but I think there's a decent chance that they're playing clever word games and that at least one of those titles IS being worked on.
We'll see, I guess!
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I too, must say that after playing all their grand strategy games (exept for HOI) I find Victoria the most nice one. You have to handle politics, economics, alot of nation events, military,...
I like CK and EU but they feel like a bit too shallow once you find out how to beat the game. There are not enough nation specific events or things. I remember with Victoria and playing as a Belgian nation, I had tons of Belgian events and specific industries which worked well in my region and not so well in others.
The lack of generic nations is what makes Vivtoria such a nice game. I really wish they would complete that game next, before they start a new CK or EU.
This is an excellent interview and outstanding openness from Pdox. Much respect to them for it, and for making the tough calls to cut games that don't look like they will either be fun or be quality enough.
What if they actually make a game set in China this time?
Well, no body ask about this...
Hm....
Well, no body ask about this...
Hm....
I at least shall keep that torch lit in the hopes that one day I shall shine it on the glory that is Victoria III. The Victoria series is IMO the best one they have, it is the only one where the PEOPLE ACTUALLY MATTER.
Manpower is but a number that grows at a consistent and reliable rate in EU, HoI and to some extent CK2 as you just wait for levies/mercenaries to refresh. In Victoria there is an actual population you need to worry about, an actual nation to manage, not just a few flavour events that hint that there may, possibly, perhaps be actual people in the world.
Manpower is but a number that grows at a consistent and reliable rate in EU, HoI and to some extent CK2 as you just wait for levies/mercenaries to refresh. In Victoria there is an actual population you need to worry about, an actual nation to manage, not just a few flavour events that hint that there may, possibly, perhaps be actual people in the world.
