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well also its the "Bundesprüfstelle für Jugendgefährdende Medien" where a lot of woman have to play many games and test and evaluate if this games are too dangerous for kids. games like doom or wolffenstein were forbidden because of nazi symbols and mainly violence

u can watch this with english subtitels if u dont understand german



Doom and Wolfenstein have never been forbidden. They have been "indexed" (indiziert). That means it was forbidden to make commercials for these games or to sell them openly, but you could still buy them in stores, if you were over 18 and asked for them.

Same goes for HOI 4, if it had swastikas and Hitler portraits in it. They could still sell it, but nobody would know about this game. In the case of Wolfenstein and Doom the indexing pretty much boosted these games. It's the Streisand effect in action.
 
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Will be interesting to watch him play...

I think it will be significant to see him play. Total War is mainly tactical but wrapped in a strategy game, so he does do strategy games, but an order of magnitude less complex than HOI3, for example.

If with HOI4 he can play and find and articulate the motivation for players to play the game (even better if he enjoys it personally) then that shows that HOI4 has potential reach in the mass market. For me, it means it is likely to make a welcome gift for more than just hard-core strategy types.
 
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That is assuming that HOI 4 is a good game, instead of a boring, super complex click fest.

So be careful with what you wish for... When Angry Joe demolishes a game... he does it rather well.
 
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So long as he is fair, fiat justitia
 
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That is assuming that HOI 4 is a good game, instead of a boring, super complex click fest.

So be careful with what you wish for... When Angry Joe demolishes a game... he does it rather well.

HOI4 is released 2 weeks after Total War: Warhammer.

So trust me, every Strawpoll he does will end with him playing TW;WH
 

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I'm offering my opinion as a consumer. If you can't handle reading it without resorting to rhetorical theatrics, you should reconsider how objectively you are evaluating this product. You'll be paying for the base game, not mods, and the screen litter you see. That clutter didn't look good to me, and it didn't look like it was serving an important purpose to the game.

Your right about the mods, you are paying for the base game and getting the mods for free. I'm not evaluating this product, I'm pointing out that if you are interested in this type of game, then maybe you should offer a suggestion that would make it better. Your first sentence calling it lame is majorly constructive, and not theatrics at all right?
 

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That is assuming that HOI 4 is a good game, instead of a boring, super complex click fest.

So be careful with what you wish for... When Angry Joe demolishes a game... he does it rather well.

He does indeed. I also think he's first to truly criticise a game sometimes. He certainly appears truthful; so glad the days of cosy relationship between the major reviewers and developers has been shattered by people like Joe.

Like others have said Joe is highly entertaining too. And I have few worries of his Hoi 4 review because he seems fair.

I suspect he also downplays his intelligence and appetite for strategy games. Perhaps in a way to keep his core viewers along when he's looking at these things. He's done strategy board game reviews too such as Forbidden Stars, and Rebellion.
 
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Your right about the mods, you are paying for the base game and getting the mods for free. I'm not evaluating this product, I'm pointing out that if you are interested in this type of game, then maybe you should offer a suggestion that would make it better. Your first sentence calling it lame is majorly constructive, and not theatrics at all right?
I'm not interested in your sentence parsing, and I'll let you know when Paradox seeks my creative design input.
 
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So is this again one of those "Dev doesn't know who the Merovingians were = Dev is a f***ing idiot" -type of arguments?

Not everyone knows geography! Not everyone knows history! You can't expect everyone to know what Danzig is. Do you, Duritz, know where Pähkinäsaari is? A famous medieval treaty is named after that place...

While Joe is a cool guy and I've watched many of his videos and am a subscriber, in defense of Duritz I must say the following:

The Finnish name for a former island in Ingria atop which once laid a medieval fort, after which an early 14th century peace treaty is named, and a famous and historically highly influential German city over which the largest and bloodiest conflict in human history to this date was started, are two very different things.
 
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This video just goes to show that good companies even great ones like Paradox can make an error.
 
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I'm not interested in your sentence parsing, and I'll let you know when Paradox seeks my creative design input.
Paradox always seeks creative design input, what company that likes to make money doesnt? I can tell you one thing, they don't seek your insults but you freely offer that. I'm just trying to see if there was some ideas that came with those witty insults.

I think Joe will be busy next month, 3 good strategy games coming out in the next few months.
 

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Paradox always seeks creative design input, what company that likes to make money doesnt? I can tell you one thing, they don't seek your insults but you freely offer that. I'm just trying to see if there was some ideas that came with those witty insults.

I think Joe will be busy next month, 3 good strategy games coming out in the next few months.
If calling it lame because it looks like a cluttered and dumbed down game that plays itself is too witty and insulting for you, just wait until PDox drops this fresh loaf and the youtubes start trashing it. Maybe I'll be very wrong and it won't be a boring GS/RTS hybrid abomination. We'll see.