Anglo-Saxon Succession?

[Lysistrata]

Does anybody know of any in-game traits besides the congenital ones (lunatic, infirm, incapable, possessed and so on) and homosexual and excommunicated that could possibly disqualify being named an ætheling?

 

[SirDraco]

Does anybody know of any in-game traits besides the congenital ones (lunatic, infirm, incapable, possessed and so on) and homosexual and excommunicated that could possibly disqualify being named an ætheling?

Eunuch and Blind, especially if you get Anglo-Saxon's into the Varangian Guard

 

[Lysistrata]

Eunuch and Blind, especially if you get Anglo-Saxon's into the Varangian Guard

An excellent idea, especially since I already opened up the guard to Saxons and Russians.

 

[SirDraco]

An excellent idea, especially since I already opened up the guard to Saxons and Russians.

Though I do like the idea of a Blind War Veteran King haha. What about Craven?

 

[The Kingmaker]

Don't want to limit it too much. I'd say limit it to physical/mental/spiritual deficiencies.

 

[zonkie]

Will it be compatible with CK2+ or TPatT? (Please say it will)

 

[riadach]

Yep.



It's one thing believing that the Cenel Conaill are real Uí Neill, but it's another believing that the Uí Mail Doraid were. The genealogies of his family (and the Uí Canannain) are pretty hard to believe, though I suppose what matters is whether or not people in the 9th century believed in the link.

And they did, given that Cenel Conaill under the Ruaidhrí Ua Cannanáin even managed to revive their claim to the high-kingship in the 10th century, according to some sources.

I was more referring to the fact they were all of the same dynasty in game. Could you point me to a work on Uí Maíl Doraid and Uí Channanáin genealogies?

 

[Calgacus]

Yeah, 'revive'! :lol:

Only work I know is this:
http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/20495094?uid=3738032&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21102271261081

Not aware of anything on the Uí Mail Doraid.

 

[Lysistrata]

Don't want to limit it too much. I'd say limit it to physical/mental/spiritual deficiencies.

The problem is that relatively speaking, those are fairly rare, so that's lots and lots of aethelings.

 

[Lysistrata]

My only regret is that extending the timeline any further to make Caterina Sforza playable would be pushing boundaries too far (in terms of game accuracy and what have you).

 

[Thure]

My only regret is that extending the timeline any further to make Caterina Sforza playable would be pushing boundaries too far (in terms of game accuracy and what have you).

I would say around 1500 should be the end. The rediscovery of America and the reformation should be the end of this game. So I would say the end should be 1452 or 1492. The last possible date should be 1516 shortly before the reformation.

 

[SirDraco]

The problem is that relatively speaking, those are fairly rare, so that's lots and lots of aethelings.

Lots and lots? Who's able to get this trait to make it lots and lots? In a ideal world, I would want to see it only available to sons and grandsons of Kings that were born after one had become King. That way, a ruling dynasty should pass the trait along easily but a new dynasty would still have to work hard to keep the crown. Also it would mean that Eadgar would get the trait but not his children unless he gets the throne first.

 

[Lysistrata]

Lots and lots? Who's able to get this trait to make it lots and lots? In a ideal world, I would want to see it only available to sons and grandsons of Kings that were born after one had become King. That way, a ruling dynasty should pass the trait along easily but a new dynasty would still have to work hard to keep the crown. Also it would mean that Eadgar would get the trait but not his children unless he gets the throne first.

Any dynasty member of the king or throne claimant who isn't horrifically disabled, and Harold does have lots of siblings and children, to be fair.

And I don't think that'd be possible.

 

[SirDraco]

Any dynasty member of the king or throne claimant who isn't horrifically disabled, and Harold does have lots of siblings and children, to be fair.

And I don't think that'd be possible.

I don't like the idea of all Harold's brothers getting the trait. No way to incorporate the born in the purple trait to combat that?

 

[Lysistrata]

I don't like the idea of all Harold's brothers getting the trait. No way to incorporate the born in the purple trait to combat that?

Born to the purple is hardcoded.

 

[SirDraco]

Born to the purple is hardcoded.

Thought as much. Well we will see how your trait works once you're done, I guess till we see the finished thing, we will always question the details because I think we all have different views on how it will turn out.

 

[Lysistrata]

Thought as much. Well we will see how your trait works once you're done, I guess till we see the finished thing, we will always question the details because I think we all have different views on how it will turn out.

*light bulb* I could make the trait available to people with the prince/princess minor title!

 

[SirDraco]

*light bulb* I could make the trait available to people with the prince/princess minor title!

Good idea but what about Eadgar? He is currently not a Prince

 

[Lysistrata]

Good idea but what about Eadgar? He is currently not a Prince

Is he not? Odd, Aelfwine Knytling is...

 

[SirDraco]

Is he not? Odd, Aelfwine Knytling is...

Only son's of Kings seem to be called Prince not Grandsons. I've never been able to vote for him or start a faction to put him on the throne either. I always have to invite him to my court and start a war and hope that the other vassals side with me.

If it's possible then how about having it also be anyone one who has a Strong claim to the throne and is Anglo-Saxon?