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Some of the information doesn't really add up to other stuff I've read in my books however, mainly the part about the lesser deities been aspects of Amun/Amon since Egypt never had monotheism outside of Atenism.
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Some of the information doesn't really add up to other stuff I've read in my books however, mainly the part about the lesser deities been aspects of Amun/Amon since Egypt never had monotheism outside of Atenism.
They could have mistaken monotheism for henotheism perhaps.You're welcome
Some of the information doesn't really add up to other stuff I've read in my books however, mainly the part about the lesser deities been aspects of Amun/Amon since Egypt never had monotheism outside of Atenism.
Most likely although in practice Egyptian paganism was polytheistic due to the wide range of local variations and sub cults like Sobek the Crocodile gods and general inconsistenties etc plus most of the populace would likely find such concepts as aspects of a single deity confusing if they knew about stuff beyond the basics at all
If I made patron deity mechanics for egyptian and hellenic would you be interested in using them? I got a giant book on classical religions, I have some ideas for religous festivals for hellenic/ egyptian as well.
Religions of the Anicent World A Guide, general editor Sarah Iles Johnston, its a bit over 700 pages long. Also has sub chapters with lists of major deities and festivals for ten cultures/ religions. Also includes Zoroastrian, early Christian and Judaism and a little Manichaeism.Which book if I may ask ?, sounds like something I might like to collect
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So, here is a list of festivals and deities I found some info on.
Egyptian Deities (I'd make all the following Patron Deities either for Kemetic or some only for a Greco-Kemetic Religion)
Amun
Atum
Bes (Fertility Godess)
Geb
Hathor
Horus
Isis
Khnum (Potter God)
Nut
Osris
Ptah
Re
Sachmet
Seth (Seth-Typhon for Greco-Kemetic)
Serapis (Greco-Kemetic Only)
Shai (more important in Greco-Kemetic, corresponded with greek Agathos Daimon, snake headed pig and fortune telling deity. Earlier deity of only fate and more of an abstraction until the greeks came in)
Shu
Sobek
Tefnut
Thoth
Festivals
Amesysia: Late July and August, celebrating the birth of Isis, popular festivitivities of lighting lamps
Amun Festival of the Valley: Held in May, procession of Amun's barque from Thebes to the western tombs
Besia: Celebrated the protective and fertility godess Bes, festivities included processional Bes-masking and the preparation of breads and drinks in celebration of the deity
Harpocrateia: Held in January, celebrating the child form of Horus, Harpocrates, associated with military prowess. Celebrations included preperation of sweet foods and exchanging of gifts
Isia: October through late November. The symbolic re-eneactment of the morning and search by the godess Isis for the dismembered body of Osris. a Gilded Cow is processed before the priests and water is poured over a container of earth shows the renewal of cultivation as the Nile recedes. Festivities included prepeartating of cakes and breads and celebratory responses during the drama.
Khnum Festival of Esna: Paired with the festival of Raising the Heavens, held in winter celebrated Khnum's creating of the cosmos with his wheel. Festivivities included processions across Egypt, masking, protective chants and invocations of Khnum's creative acts for human procreation
Kronia: Late Sepember through mid November. Celebrated the birth of regional deities, espicially Sobek. Festivities seemed to mirror Saturnalia and the festival seemed o be imported from the Greeks.
Min: Celebration of the begining of the grain harvest
Navigum Isidis: Held in early March celebrating the reopening on the navigation of the Nile, religous connection is it also was the festival of representing Isis as piloting Osris's funeral barque. Festivities of this included processions culminating in the launching of a ritual barque representing the boat of Isis.
Nehebkau: New Year Festival, celebrated in July, commemorating the rebirth of vegetation, festivitivies included mutual gift giving and special sacrifices in the temples.
Opet Festival of Amun of Karnak: June, the Barque of Amun goes south to Luxor, Festivities included elaborate processions, espicially by boat through the city. Elements of the festival lasted until at least the 1100s where the commerative barque was still being processed through the city ritually.
Sarapia: Greco-Egyptian espicially. Serapis. Mid-March and mid-November. Festivities included, processions with masking, wine labations, sacrifices of bulls and pigs and purification acts. Had royal, oracular and military overtones.
Shai Festival: (Still commerotaed in the early 400s CE) Celebrated the Egyptian deity of civic fortune and domestic protection. Popular festivities included lighting of lamps in homes.
Sokaris: Held in November. Celebrated a form of Osris assocaited with fertility. Festivities included breaking of the Earth, the making of and burial of a corn mummy and procession of the barque of Sokaris
Typhonia: Greco-Kemetic. Honored Seth-Typhon as a protective deity
Wagy: September? A funerary feast associated with the pilgrimage to Abydos
Isia could also be enabled for Hellenic as it was also commemorated in Rome.
Egyptian Deities (I'd make all the following Patron Deities either for Kemetic or some only for a Greco-Kemetic Religion)
Amun
Atum
Bes (Fertility Godess)
Geb
Hathor
Horus
Isis
Khnum (Potter God)
Nut
Osris
Ptah
Re
Sachmet
Seth (Seth-Typhon for Greco-Kemetic)
Serapis (Greco-Kemetic Only)
Shai (more important in Greco-Kemetic, corresponded with greek Agathos Daimon, snake headed pig and fortune telling deity. Earlier deity of only fate and more of an abstraction until the greeks came in)
Shu
Sobek
Tefnut
Thoth
Festivals
Amesysia: Late July and August, celebrating the birth of Isis, popular festivitivities of lighting lamps
Amun Festival of the Valley: Held in May, procession of Amun's barque from Thebes to the western tombs
Besia: Celebrated the protective and fertility godess Bes, festivities included processional Bes-masking and the preparation of breads and drinks in celebration of the deity
Harpocrateia: Held in January, celebrating the child form of Horus, Harpocrates, associated with military prowess. Celebrations included preperation of sweet foods and exchanging of gifts
Isia: October through late November. The symbolic re-eneactment of the morning and search by the godess Isis for the dismembered body of Osris. a Gilded Cow is processed before the priests and water is poured over a container of earth shows the renewal of cultivation as the Nile recedes. Festivities included prepeartating of cakes and breads and celebratory responses during the drama.
Khnum Festival of Esna: Paired with the festival of Raising the Heavens, held in winter celebrated Khnum's creating of the cosmos with his wheel. Festivivities included processions across Egypt, masking, protective chants and invocations of Khnum's creative acts for human procreation
Kronia: Late Sepember through mid November. Celebrated the birth of regional deities, espicially Sobek. Festivities seemed to mirror Saturnalia and the festival seemed o be imported from the Greeks.
Min: Celebration of the begining of the grain harvest
Navigum Isidis: Held in early March celebrating the reopening on the navigation of the Nile, religous connection is it also was the festival of representing Isis as piloting Osris's funeral barque. Festivities of this included processions culminating in the launching of a ritual barque representing the boat of Isis.
Nehebkau: New Year Festival, celebrated in July, commemorating the rebirth of vegetation, festivitivies included mutual gift giving and special sacrifices in the temples.
Opet Festival of Amun of Karnak: June, the Barque of Amun goes south to Luxor, Festivities included elaborate processions, espicially by boat through the city. Elements of the festival lasted until at least the 1100s where the commerative barque was still being processed through the city ritually.
Sarapia: Greco-Egyptian espicially. Serapis. Mid-March and mid-November. Festivities included, processions with masking, wine labations, sacrifices of bulls and pigs and purification acts. Had royal, oracular and military overtones.
Shai Festival: (Still commerotaed in the early 400s CE) Celebrated the Egyptian deity of civic fortune and domestic protection. Popular festivities included lighting of lamps in homes.
Sokaris: Held in November. Celebrated a form of Osris assocaited with fertility. Festivities included breaking of the Earth, the making of and burial of a corn mummy and procession of the barque of Sokaris
Typhonia: Greco-Kemetic. Honored Seth-Typhon as a protective deity
Wagy: September? A funerary feast associated with the pilgrimage to Abydos
Isia could also be enabled for Hellenic as it was also commemorated in Rome.
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Seems to be a very interesting resource you found there!
All of this (excluding those that are more Greco-Kemetic), would probably be a lot to implement, so I would recommend to the ACR team to pick the 8 or so, most major ones and focus on those, just as the vanilla does.
When you think about it kinda makes sense, they're somewhat similar with both being of the primordial Chaos type. Never thought of that connection though.
Indeed I'd though of a Seth-Typhon before but never knew ti actually existed as a mythical deity at some point. And I have a complete guide to the gods and goddesses of ancient egypt even!
@starwarsfan541 I agree with @loup99 , that's way too many to do all of them. It would be overwhelming from an implementation perspective, and from a users perspective. Can you imagine the decision interface with nearly a dozen festivals? It would be madness!
I would say that the following gods are probably the most important:
Re
Horus
Set
Amun
Aten
Hathor
Isis
Osiris
Bes (for dwarves to worship )
Sekhmet
One last god, who is very minor but a personal favorite, is Shezmu. The Lord of Blood and Slaughterer of Souls.
For celebrations, I recommend doing the Isia, and a "Festival of Amun." You can pick which of the two traditional festivals it should represent, or make something from whole-cloth that is inspired by the traditional festivals.
Do not feel entirely bound by the ancient faiths. These are recreations and would never be able to be identical.
I would say that the following gods are probably the most important:
Re
Horus
Set
Amun
Aten
Hathor
Isis
Osiris
Bes (for dwarves to worship
)Sekhmet
One last god, who is very minor but a personal favorite, is Shezmu. The Lord of Blood and Slaughterer of Souls.
For celebrations, I recommend doing the Isia, and a "Festival of Amun." You can pick which of the two traditional festivals it should represent, or make something from whole-cloth that is inspired by the traditional festivals.
Do not feel entirely bound by the ancient faiths. These are recreations and would never be able to be identical.
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Yo boys, so I'm loving the new randomly generated flags that come with being a Celtic pagan, but I really like the default Christian flag for the kingdom of Wales. Is there any way I can ensure I keep that coat of arms when going Celtic pagan? I'm running ACR with SWMH and the flag for Wales in this mod is a badass red dragon, really reminiscent of Arthurian legend and I want to keep it.
ACR also seems to mess up the prexisting pagan flags for places like Sweden, Saxony and Jorvik. There are no fixed title flags like in vanilla.
ACR also seems to mess up the prexisting pagan flags for places like Sweden, Saxony and Jorvik. There are no fixed title flags like in vanilla.
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You probably aren't using the most recent version, which is linked in my signature.
No, I am. The flags of Svipjod and such in 867 are random. Unless I have some files lying around from a previous version. But it might be the fact its running with other mods.
What other mods? Never do bug-reports without testing if you run multiple mods.
It's cool, I figured it out. The source of the problem was SMWH as I assume all of the new counties completely changes the coding. I ran HIP with ACR WITHOUT SWMH and the flags are perfectly fine.