Anatolian Wars Mod

[yourworstnightm]

I was thinking a situation in the Levant where the nations are Druze, Syria, early Israel, Palestine, Transjordania, Egypt and perhaps christian Lebanon (although I guess Druze occupy all of modern Lebanon, so perhaps not).

 

[unmerged(64836)]

No, the Druze only have Tripoli, though they have claims on Golan and Beirut.
I don't know. The Anatolian Nations still aren't finished, and making an entire Levant addition to the scenario would be a lot of work. Worth it though, dare I say
Although Transjordan, Israel, and Egypt wouldn't be too much work. Lebanon would just be a matter of deleting all non-christian ministers. Perhaps the Maronite Patriarchs or someone from the Gemayel family would be head of State?

Miihkali, you mentioned something about changing flags due to events?
I have flags for Ottoman, Turanist, and Communist Turkey. I can post them here if you'd like.
Here are the provinces Turanist Turkey would claim- they include Ajaria, Abkhazia, Adygea, Circassia, Ingushetia, Dagestan, Balkaria, Kalmykia, Azerbaijian (and Nagorno-Karabakh), Tabriz (Southern Afganistan), the Crimea (for Crimean Tartars) and Southern Moldova and Odessa for the Gagauz Turks. Even part of Albania and Bosnia are included- many Turanist groups see the Bosniaks and Albanian Muslims as Turkic.

410 300 391 415 309 388 387 386 385 1848 1845 1844 1849 1857 1847 1858 1907 1859 1837 1833 1838 1843 255 254 253 251 234 233 434 435

Here are the ones Ottoman Turkey would claim- and I'm using the Empire's borders circa 1910, so including Rumelia, Albania, and Western Thrace. Of course, all other Turkish provinces are included in this. Maybe the USSR can use the resurgence of the Ottoman Empire to claim Kars again?
Anyway, here are some of the provinces they would claim. Unfortunately, I don't know the province IDs for the Arabian provinces along the Eastern Red Sea coast, or those in Yemen or the ones in Kuwait, all of which I intend the Ottomans to claim.
Here they are:

390 391 412 392 403 402 403 393 411 410 416 414 413 410 405 409 408 437 439 438 441 448 442 440 443 449 447 446 445 1854 1853 1852 450 1851 1855 1862 1861 1863 1860  1866 1865 1790 1824 1823 1793 1794 1795 1792 404 1798 1797 1796 1799 406 1802 1803 407 1791

 

[Miihkali]

No I mean no changing nation's flag, I mean using localflag command. It means, that some event sets some localflag, and then it can be used as trigger in other events, for example there can be event

"Policies"

a = "Panturanists"

b = "Ottomans"

where chance A sets localflag PANTURANIST and B sets OTTOMAN. Then in events there can be triggers PANTURANIST and OTTOMAN, which means that event launches only if there have been selected PANTURANIST or OTTOMAN

For example:

trigger = PANTURANIST

"Annexing Turkish areas"

a = "Woo!"

This "event" will lauch only if localflag is set to PANTURANIST

 

[Thistletooth]

Question:

Do any of you have figures representing the population of Assyrians, Armenians, Pontic Greeks, Kurds, and Cappadocian Christians in the 1918-1936 period? Did you use any when putting this mod together?

Also, where did you come up with the Kappadocian flag?

 

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Sorry, by figures do you mean ministers or leaders, or the actual populations of these ethnic groups?
If some events hadn't taken a turn for the worse, there would have been about 2 to 3 million Assyro-Chaldeans in the Levant in the '30s, most of whom I figure would have migrated to the independent Assyria in this mod.
Armenians were more numerous- about 4 to 5 million including those in Eastern Anatolia, I would estimate. Remember that since this mod is a 'what if?' one, I'm assuming the battles at Kars and Van would have been won by the Armenians, therefore stopping the Armenian Diaspora of the 1920s.
There were 4 million Cappadocian Christians, either speaking Cappadocian Greek or Turkish, until 1923. Since the population exchanges never took place in this mod, they are still in Cappadocia.
Pontic Greeks would have numbered about 3 million, since the Pontines wouldn't have been deported or had to flee to the USSR or Greece in the 1930s. I am also assuming that the Laz, Georgians, and Hemshin of the Kackar Mountains in Pontus would have supported the nation as well.
As for the Cappadocian flag, that is a bit of a misnomer as the Cappadocian independence movement was really quite small. I read in a book that some Cappadocian irregular fighters in the 1920s fighting against the population exchange used a flag with the 'Chi-Rho' symbol on it, so that's what I've got here.
I may well design a new one, though.
As for the Kurds... I've pretty much left Kurdistan as it is, apart from adding a few new techteams and removing German ministers and leaders. Afraid I don't know much about Kurdish history.

By the way, I've tried and tried writing events, but none of them ever seem to work.
Maybe you guys can write the multi-choice events for each nation using the province IDs I've given you, and I can fill in the minister ID numbers if you send them to me?

Also, as far as I see it, Jebel-Al-Druze controls all Syria apart from Damascus and Dair-As-Zawr (which is assyrian) as well as the North of Lebanon. I know we were thinking of doing a Maronite Lebanon, but then would they control Damascus? If not, that would leave French territory isolated in the Middle of Nowhere.
I'm not sure about expanding this mod too much. I suppose we could make a Levantine mod, but then what nations would we add? Coptic Christian Egypt?
If we do, this will go on forever.
Maybe we could have a Maronite Lebanon being founded and a Coptic Christian Egypt being founded if Armenia and Assyria decide to support some pan-Christian cause?

Update: techteams for Jebel-Al-Druze completed, Assyrian Leninist cabinet complete, Turkish Ottoman Cabinet Complete

 

[Miihkali]

By the way, I've tried and tried writing events, but none of them ever seem to work.
Maybe you guys can write the multi-choice events for each nation using the province IDs I've given you, and I can fill in the minister ID numbers if you send them to me?

I can make events. I am not master, but normally they work after few fixes

 

[unmerged(64836)]

Thanks
I'll just be tweaking the gameplay- making it as fun as possible.
Also, I shall add as many new ministers as I can and make some new skins.

I'll also be designing a Coptic Christian cabinet, just in case we need one

 

[Miihkali]

Few event ideas (I can make them if you accept)

1. Jebel al-Druze capital moves to Beirut if they own it
2. Armenian communist coup d' etat. Supported by SU
3. Syria punishes Assyria (and maybe Kurdistan)
4. De-Hellenization of Anatolia. If turkey conquers some of hellenic nations in anatolia, there launches this event
5. Hellenization of central anatolia. If Greece qoncuers turkey, this event launches.

 

[unmerged(64836)]

5. Hellenization of central anatolia. If Greece qoncuers turkey, this event launches.

Interesting. If you can do any new events, please just write them
I'll make lists of all the minister and leader IDs for the new ones I've added so your events will work first time.
Remember- Pontus is U00, Cappadocia is U01, Assyria is U02, Jebel al Druze is U03 and Coptic Egypt will probably be U04- though I will call it the 'See of Alexandria' or something.
The Hellenisation idea is interesting... maybe that could make dissent in Azerbaijan and Central Asia rise- so that the Turkic peoples won't totally lose out in this mod!
I'm confused what should happen to Syria though... it will only have Golan and Damascus since Jebel al Druze and Assyria will get the rest.
More ministers added to the Assyrian cabinet and I have a Coptic Christian cabinet, though mainly priests and patriarchs.

Also I will make a cabinet and flag for Lycia- I thought maybe if Italy seize Antalya/Halikarnassos, they could have Lycia as a puppet state. Could be interesting
Maybe we could make the possibility of having Istanbul independent as a Free City?

 

[Miihkali]

Maybe we could make the possibility of having Istanbul independent as a Free City?

When this event will launch? When Greco-Turkish war is stalemate? Or when some non-anatolian power conquers Greece?

 

[Miihkali]

Event de-hellinization of anatolia. I am not sure the options, but there's my offer...

#########################################################################
#  Hellenization of Anatolia
#########################################################################
event = { 
	id = xxx
	random = no
	country = GRE

	trigger = {
	exists = GRE # greece exists
	NOT = {
		exists = TUR # turkey doesn't exist
		}

	AND = {
		OR = {
	owned = { province = 448 data = GRE } # ankara is controlled by Greece 
	owned = { province = 448 data = U00 } # OR by Pontus
	owned = { province = 448 data = U01 } # OR by Cappadocia
		}
		}
	}

	name = "Hellenization of Central Anatolia"
	desc = "After defeat of Turkey hellenic peoples now controls most of Anatolia. Finally Megali idea has full true. But problem is that Turkish people living in central Anatolia have still big power in area, they are almost only major people living there and Hellens are only small minority. But as we Hellenized Western Anatolia in 1920s, we can do same in Central Anatolia."
	style = 0
	picture = "picture"

	date = { day = 15 month = january year = 1936 }
	offset = 30
	deathdate = { day = 28 month = august year = 2199 }

	action_a = {
		name = "Hellenize anatolia"
		ai_chance = 34
		command = { type = dissent value = 15 } # that this is not 'must' option
		command = { type = manpowerpool value = -35 } # moving Turks away or even massacre... :(
		command = { type = addcore which = 440 } # Karabük
		command = { type = addcore which = 448 } # Ankara
		command = { type = addcore which = 441 } # Afyonkarahinar
		command = { type = addcore which = 442 } # Konya
		command = { type = addcore which = 443 } # Mersin
		command = { type = addcore which = 445 } # Gaziantep (maybe chance this province name to Hatay...)
		}

	action_b = {
		name = "Form Turkish puppet state led by Hellens"
		ai_chance = 33
		command = { type = independence which = U05 value = 0 when = 0 } # maybe make one nation more, something like Phrygia... or maybe not.
		}

	action_c = {
		name = "Give autonomy to Turks"
		ai_chance = 33
		command = { type = manpowerpool value = 25 } # mobilized Turks... Maybe!
		command = { type = dissent value = 5 } # what supporters of Megali idea says? They aren't happy...
		}
}

Option B can be replaced as command, who makes lower partisan activity in Central Anatolia...
Maybe make to A option that it put's manpower and IC in central anatolia lower

 

[unmerged(55360)]

When I see this much possibilities of ceation of so many states I think that map is not well made, for example Armenia: just Yerevan which is a big province, in fact curent Armenia is not a one big province, Armenia is divaded to provinces(marz's), and Yerevan is the capital which is the smallest province, I mean game to be interesting with so many states should have more provinces for each, is it possible to edit the map? divide big provinces to some smaller ones, so everything would be more acurate.

 

[Miihkali]

Ok maybe it's better make that revoltrisk is in B lower...
And how about events, where AI Cappadocia/Pontus gives Turkish provinces to Greece

 

[unmerged(64836)]

Yeah- if there were more provinces in the North East of Anatolia, we could do Lazica, and maybe Greater Georgia. Only problem is that it would take over Trabzon- and Pontus without Trabzon would be pretty pointless.
The de-Hellenization event is great, but it should definitely increase dissent. There may have been plenty of Asia Minor Greeks happy to be controlled by Athens, but the Turks certainly wouldn't have been.
I shall design a Lycian cabinet- I think I have found as many ministers for the other countries as I can. But there is one question:
What shall Kurdistan and Greece's multi-choice events be?!?

 

[Miihkali]

Don't know about Greece & Kurdistan, but there's events where AI gives phrygia to Greece, so they can hellenize central Anatolia.

event = { 
	id = XXX
	random = no
	country = TAG # make this event for U00 and also U01. replace TAG with U00/U01
	
	trigger = {
	OR = {
		control = { province = 440 data = TAG } # Karabük
		control = { province = 448 data = TAG }	# Ankara
		control = { province = 441 data = TAG } # Afuonkarahinar
		control = { province = 442 data = TAG } # Konya
		control = { province = 443 data = TAG } # Mersir
		control = { province = 445 data = TAG } # Gaziantep
		}
	}
	NOT = {
		exists = TUR # turkey doesn't exists
		}
	}
	
	name = "Giving occupied Turkey to Greece"
	desc = "Greece Megalist government wants our lands, what we have occupied after Hellen-Turkish war! Their plans to Hellenize central Anatolia are maybe important to them, but when Greece border moves towards us, it makes clear threat, that Cappadocia/Pontus becomes only puppet of Greece."
	style = 0
	picture = "rhineland"
	
	date = { day = 15 month = january year = 1936 }
	offset = 3 # runs after three days...
	deathdate = { day = 28 month = august year = 2199 }

	action_a = {
		name = "Give it"
		ai_chance = 96
		command = { type = dissent value = 8 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = GRE value = 440 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = GRE value = 448 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = GRE value = 441 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = GRE value = 442 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = GRE value = 443 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = GRE value = 445 }
		command = { type = relation which = GRE value = 25 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "We have our own oppoturnities also!"
		ai_chance = 3
		command = { type = relation which = GRE value = -30 }
	}
	action_c = { # That action only for Cappadocia
		name = "Keep Konya, but give other provinces"
		ai_chance = 1
		command = { type = dissent value = 4 }
		command = { type = relation which = GRE value = 5 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = GRE value = 440 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = GRE value = 448 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = GRE value = 441 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = GRE value = 443 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = GRE value = 445 }
		
	}
}

 

[Miihkali]

There's few events. Use, if you think they are good

Syrian-Assyrian war

#########################################################################
#  Syrian-Assyrian war
#########################################################################
event = { 
	id = XXX
	random = no
	country = SYR # Syria
	
	trigger = {
	atwar = no # Syria isn't at war
	exists = U02 # Assyria
	control = { province = 1861 data = U02 } # Assyria controls Dair az Zawr
	}
	
	name = "Syrian-Assyrian war"
	desc = "Former French mandate Syria has been long time humiliated my several states. First Ottomans, then French and now Assyrians are ruling parts of eastern Syria. Finally we have some changes to defend ourselves, and retaking Dair az Zawr is important in progress prove our true independence."
	style = 0
	picture = "merkur"
	
	date = { day = 2 month = january year = 1936 }
	offset = 150
	deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 2199 }

	action_a = {
		name = "Crush Assyrians!"
		ai_chance = 85
		command = { type = war which = U02 } # Syria DoW:s Assyria
		command = { type = trigger which = XXXX } # Assyrian event
		command = { type = add_division which = "Dair az Zawr infantry" value = infantry when = 1 }
		command = { type = add_division which = "1st Infantry Brigade" value = militia when = 0 }
		command = { type = dissent value = 5 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "Nah, let it be!"
		ai_chance = 15
		command = { type = domestic which = interventionism value = -1 }
	}
}

#########################################################################
#  Syria declares war against us!
#########################################################################
event = { 
	id = XXXX
	random = no
	country = U02 # Assyria
	
	trigger = {
	# triggered by Syria
	}
	
	name = "Syria declares war upon us!"
	desc = "Syria has mobilized their reserves and declared war against us. Their excuse is question of Dair az Zawr-province and their territorial claim over it."
	style = 0
	picture = "defence"
	
	action_a = {
		name = "Then mobilize our reserves!"
		ai_chance = 50
		command = { type = add_division which = "Division of Dair az Zawr" value = infantry when = 1 }
		command = { type = dissent value = 5 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "Mobilize even more infantry"
		ai_chance = 25
		command = { type = add_division which = "1st Rifle Division" value = militia when = 0 }
		command = { type = add_division which = "2nd Rifle Division" value = militia when = 0 }
		command = { type = add_division which = "3rd Rifle Division" value = militia when = 0 }
		command = { type = dissent value = 10 }
	}
	action_c = {
		name = "Give up, give their claims"
		ai_chance = 25
		command = { type = peace which = SYR value = 1 }
		command = { type = dissent value = 15 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = SYR value = 1861 } # Gives Dair az Zawr
	}
}

 

[unmerged(63886)]

Can't we have some screenies?

 

[Miihkali]

There's few screenies. Maybe Mehmet12 can put them on first post...

These pictures are from my Greece game. I declared war against Albania and annexed. Then started war against Turkey, but Germans and Yugoslavs declared war against me

 

[unmerged(64836)]

Great events, Miihkali! I'll post some screenies too- my game as Pontus is giving Armenia hell
Maybe we should start modifying Germany and Yugoslavia so they don't mess around with the Anatolian situation?

Update
20 new Assyrian ministers added
10 new Druze ministers added
Descriptions and propaganda pics for all nations done
Snazzy new loading screen and Druze skin done- I think you'll like it
Music almost complete
Will add these nations to be liberated:
SW Caucasian Republic- to be liberated by Turkey if it conquers Armenia
Batumi Republic- Liberated by Armenia or Turkey if they take Pontus
Lycia- Liberated by Italy if it takes Antalya
Zone of the Straits- Liberated by Allies if they take Constantinople
Hatay- Liberated by either France or Jebel Al-Druze if they take Gaziantep. Maybe it could also be Cilician Armenia?


That one key question in my mind has also not been answered- what will the other choices for Greece and Kurdistan's Multi-Choice events be?
Greece- communist? Neo-Byzantine? Theocracy? Italian Puppet?
Kurdistan?- Mahabad Communists? ??

We're so close to completing this mod, but this question is really a major thing.

 

[yourworstnightm]

Perhaps the big question for Greece should be the democratization process. Allow free elections or not... If they don't allow elections the miltary and the king strengthen their rule. I f they allow elections a number of different parties couls win the election. If a anti- monarchist party win there could be a coup to restore the monarchy or the creation of a Greek republic (democrat or communist). There could also be a small chance of civil war if the situation become too messy.