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unmerged(11427) · Mar 6, 2006

MC solutions for 1187 scenario (Part 1)

MC_1187_1
Bjřrn Ironside NAMELESS
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/denmark/denmark2.html

Father: C2. [illegitimate] Harald Kesja, Reichsverweser of Denmark, +murdered 1135; m.Ragnhild of Norway;
Bjřrn Ironside: D2. Bjorn Jernside, +drowned 1134; m.Katharina of Sweden

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http://www.progressus.se/mormor_morfar/tree/WC04/WC04_119.HTML

Father: Prince Harald Eriksson Kesja of Denmark (1080 - 1135)
Bjřrn Ironside: Prince Björn Haraldsson b. ca 1110, d. 1134

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Solution: Change birthdate of 1516 Harald Kesja to 1080.
MC_1187_2
Karl Bengtsson till Bjälbo
http://www.american-pictures.com/genealogy/persons/per08412.htm#0

Karl "Döve" Bengtsson FOLKUNGA: b. Abt. 1139 - d. 8 Aug 1220
Father: Bengt Folkesson FOLKUNGA: b. Abt. 1098 - d.?

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Solution: Change birthdate of 541 Karl Bengtsson to 1139 and birthdate of 521 Bengt to 1098.
MC_1187_3
Nikolaus Niklotid
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/meckl/meckl1.html

Father: A2. Wratislaw, Fst der Slawen und Circipaner, +hanged 1164; m.NN (+after 1182)
Nikolaus: B1. Fst Nikolaus I von Rostock, +k.a.nr Waschow 1200

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No birthdates. There was a thread around here about them...
MC_1187_4
Páll Jónsson NAMELESS
MC_1187_5
Helene Guttormsdatter of Freysey
Father: 2044 Guttorm Austmannsson yr=1130 - 1167
Mother: 2043 Ingrid Guttormsdatter yr=1135 - 1150
Marriage: 1521 Esbern yr=1127 - 1204
Siblings: None
Children: 1525 Ingeborg yr=1181 - 1267
http://nygaard.howards.net/files/1543.htm
Helene's brith/deathdate seem to be OK. Parents are correct ones, but no dates for them.
It seems that the problem lies in uncertain deathdate of Helene's mother (2043 Ingrid Guttormsdatter).
MC_1187_6
Constantine Dunkeld
Father: 2980 Aethelred yr=1072 - 1093
Mother: None
Marriage: None
Siblings: None
Children: 2978 Gillemichael yr=1100 - 1136
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brit/dunkeld.html

B1. Malcolm III Canmore, King of Strathclyde (1034-40), King of Scotland (1058-93) -cr 25.4.1058 Scone Abbey, *ca 1031, +k.a.nr Alnwick, Northumberland 13.11.1093, bur Dunfermline Abbey, Fife; 1m: ca 1059 Ingiborg Finnsdotter (+before 1070), dau.of Finn Arnarsson of Vjar, Jarl of Halland; 2m: Dunfermline Abbey ca 1069 St.Margaret of England (*ca 1045, +16.11.1093)
C9. [2m.] Ethelred, Lay Abbot of Dunkeld, *ca 1084, +ca 1097, bur Kilremont Church

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It looks like Aethelred (son of Malcolm and Margaret in game) could be Ethelred, but he can't possibly be a father of Constantine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethelred,_Earl_of_Fife
FUBAR
MC_1187_7
Patrick of Dunbar
After examination of the ingame file, deathdate of Patrick's father Waltheof (3017) is { year = 1151 month = december day = 30 } so it is possible that Waltheof is the father of Patrick (birthdate { year = 1152 month = january day = 0 }).
Solution: No changes necessary.
MC_1187_8
Walter de Lacy
Father: 4037 Hugh yr=1163 - 1186
Mother: None
Siblings: 4022 Hugh yr=1176 - 1241; 4023 Maud yr=1169 - 1242
Children: None
http://www.geocities.com/missourimule_2000/delacy2.html#Family: Hugh de Lacy (2)
I hate to use some obscure genealogy web pages, but this one seems to be spot on.
Solution: Father Hugh (4021) birthdate to 1125 (crucial!), Hugh Junior (4022) to 1168, Walter (4020) to 1170 and Daughter (ingame Maud ID=4023) to 1162.
MC_1187_9
Maud de Lacy
See MC_1187_8.
MC_1187_10
Agnes de Meschines
Father: 4685 Hugh yr=1147 - 1181
Mother: 4686 Bertrade yr=1155 - 1189
Siblings: 4680 Ranulph yr=1172 - 0; 4681 Maud yr=1174 - 0; 4682 Mabel yr=1176 - 0; 4684 Hawise year=1185 - 0
Children: None
http://users.legacyfamilytree.com/uspresidents/4930.htm
Father (4685) is OK.
http://users.legacyfamilytree.com/uspresidents/4931.htm
Mother (4686) is OK.
Agnes
Mabel
Hawise
No mentioning of the other two (Ranulph and Maud). They were within parameters so they stay as they are ingame.
Solution: Change birthdate of 4683 Agnes to 1174, birthdate of 4682 Mabel to 1171 and birthdate of 4684 Hawise to 1180.
MC_1187_11
Hawise de Meschines
Solved with MC_1187_10.
MC_1187_12
Elizabeth de Beaumont
Father: 4576 Roger yr=1020 - 1094
Mother: None
Siblings: 4596 Robert yr=1050 - 1118; 4717 Henri yr=1052 - 1119
Children: 4770 Richard yr=1122 - 1176 (child of father 4790 Gilbert yr=1100 - 1149 also)
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/beaumont/beaumont5.html
Her father is Robert (4596) (ingame brother). She is a granddaughter of Roger (4576).
Solution: 4791 Elizabeth gets a new father 4596.
MC_1187_13
Constance Capet
Father: 5502 Louis yr=1081 - 1130
Mother: 13118 Adelaide yr=1095 - 1154
Siblings: 5500 Louis yr=1120 - 1180; 5508 Robert yr=1123 - 1188; 5509 Pierre yr=1126 - 1183
Marriage: 5530 Raymond yr=1134 - 1194
Children: 5531 Alberic yr=1157 - 1183; 5532 Raymond yr=1156 - 0; 5533 Baudouin yr=1165 - 0; 5534 Adelaide yr=1171 - 0
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet4.html

Parents:
E1. King LOUIS VI "le Gros" of France (1108-37) cr 1101, Cte de Vexin et de Vermandois, *IX-XI.1081, +Château Bethisy nr Paris 1.8.1137, bur St.Denis; 1m: 1104 (div 1107) Lucienne de Rochefort (*ca 1088 +after 1137); 2m: Paris IV/V.1115 Adélaïde of Savoy (*1092 +18.11.1154)
5503 Constance:
F9. [2m.] Constance, *1124, +Rheims 16.8.1176; 1m: II.1140 Eustache IV de Blois, Cte de Boulogne (*1127 +10.8.1154); 2m: 1154 (div 1165/66) Cte Raimond V de Toulouse (*1134 +1194)

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Solution: Change birthdate of 5503 Constance to 1124.
MC_1187_14
Alberic de Toulouse
Solved with MC_1187_13.
MC_1187_15
Raymond de Toulouse
Solved with MC_1187_13.
MC_1187_16
Cecile Trencavel
Father: 5571 Raimond yr=1141 - 1180 Trencavel
Mother: 5575 Laurence yr=1130 - 0 de Carcassonne
Siblings: 5570 Roger yr=1166 - 0; 5574 Beatrix yr=1151 - 0
Marriage: 5550 Roger-Bernard yr=1130 - 0 de Foix; marriage from 1151
Children: 5553 Esclarmonde yr=1152 - 0; 5554 Raimond-Roger yr=1155 - 0; 5555 Sibylle yr=1160 - 0
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jamesdow/s083/f004525.htm
Everyone is missplaced in time according to this site. Some are missing.
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/foix/foix1.html

G1. Vcte Raymond Trencavel de Beziers, etc, +murdered 15.10.1167; m.Adelaide N
H1. Vcte Roger de Beziers
H2. Raymond Trencavel
H3. Cecilia; m.ca 1151 Cte Roger Bernardo I de Foix

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Messed up.
MC_1187_17
Alix de Bourgogne
Father: 6001 Eudes yr=1118 - 1162
Mother: 6002 Marie yr=1128 - 1190
Marriage: 5651 Archambault yr=1120 - 1170
Siblings: 6000 Hugues yr=1148 - 0; 6017 Mahaut yr=1145 - 0
Children: 5650 Archambault yr=1150 - 1189; 5652 Mahaut yr=1143 - 0
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet9.html

Parents:
D1. Duc Eudes II de Bourgogne (1142-62), *1118, +27.6.1162, bur Citeaux; m.1145 Marie de Blois (*1128 +1190)
Alix:
E2. Alix, *1146, +as nun at Fontevrault 1192, bur there; 1m: ca 1164 Archambaud VII de Bourbon (+1169); 2m: Eudes de Deols, sn de Chateau-Roux

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Parents are perfect. Siblings are there also. If I correct Alix to (*1146, +1192), it will create problems for her children. There must be another Alix which got mixed with this one. Even the first husband seems to be OK.
http://usuarios.lycos.es/bermudezdecastro/gp9205.htm#head0
Confirms dates from previous page. Here is a single child:

Mahaut de Bourbon: ABT 1165 - 18 Jun 1228

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Who is the second Archambault (5650)? Too complicated for me.
MC_1187_18
Geoffrey de Lusignan
Father: 5661 Hugues yr=1106 - 1165
Mother: 5662 Burgondie yr=1142 - 1169 de Rancon
Marriage: None
Siblings: 5665 Hugues yr=1141 - 1169; 23500 Guy yr=1160 - 1194; 23505 Amaury yr=1145 - 0
Children: None
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/lusignan1.html

Parents:
C1. Hugues VIII "le Vieux", Seigneur de Lusignan 1151, Seigneur de Bourgogne de Rancon, Seigneur de Fontenay, *Poitou 1106-10, +in Holy Land 1165, went on Crusade 1163; m.1140/41 Burgondie de Rancon, Dame de Fontenay (+11.4.1169), dau.of Geoffroy de Rancon by Fossefie=Falsifie, Dame de Moncontour

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All dates are OK with the game except the birthdate of the mother which remains unknown. There lies the problem.
http://herve.gros.nom.fr/genanglais/html/dat376.htm
This site ventured to guess her birthdate as 1120, so I'm going to buy it because it fits into the game.
Other sites supporting her birthdate: one and two.
Solution: Change birthdate of 5662 Burgondie de Rancon to 1120. Chnage the start of the marriage between 5661 and 5662 to 1140 (now 1159).
MC_1187_19
Hugues de Lusignan
Solved with MC_1187_18.
MC_1187_20
Beatrice de Chalon
Father: 5690 Guillaume yr=1120 - 0
Mother: 12509 Beatrix yr=1169 - 1181 von Hohenstaufen
Marriage: 5593 Etienne yr=1170 - 0 (staring in 1186)
Siblings: None
Children: None
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/hohst/hohenstauf.html

Mother Beatrix:
E7. Beatrix, *by 1156, +1181; m.ca 1173 Guillaume IV de Chalon (*ca 1120 +3.1.1202)

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That is without a doubt 12509 Beatrix von Hohenstaufen.
Solution: Change birthdate of 12509 Beatrice to 1156.
MC_1187_21
Guillaume d'Aquitaine
Father: 5733 Guillaume yr=1122 - 1204
Mother: None
Marriage: 5732 Eleanor yr=1103 - 1130 Chatellerault (from yr=1120 - 1130)
Siblings: 23740 Raymond yr=1119 - 1149
Children: 5730 Alienor yr=1122 - 1204
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/poitou/poitou1.html

I1. [2m.] Guillaume VIII (X) "the Saint", Duke of Aquitaine (1126-37), Ct of Poitou, *1099, +on a pilgrimage to San Iago de Composterba in Galice 9.4.1137; 1m: 1121 Eleonore de Châtellerault (+1130); 2m: before 1137 Emma de Limoges, dau.of Aymar III, Vicomte de Limoges and Umberge N; all kids were by 1m.
J1. Guillaume, +1130/37
J2. Eleanor/Aliénor, Dss of Aquitaine (1137-1204), Css of Poitou, *Bordeaux 1122, +Chateau de Mirebelle, Poitiers 31.3.1204; 1m: Bordeaux 22.7.1137 (div 21.3.1152) King Louis VII of France (*1120 +18.9.1180); 2m: Cathedral de Saint-Pierre, Bordeaux 18.5.1152 King Henry II of England (+1189); See note
J3. Aelis=Petronelle, *1123-28, +after 24.10.1153; m.1142 (div ca 1151) Cte Raoul I de Vermandois (+1152); See note
I2. Raimund de Poitiers, Prince of Antioch, +k.a.1149; m.1136 Constance de Hauteville, Pss of Antioch (*1127 +1163); for their descendants see HERE

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Guillame VIII (X) is our 5731 Guillaume d'Aquitaine. Everything checks. 5733 'father' Guillaume is not his son J1. Years of 5733 (yr=1122-1204) are identical to 5730 Alienor. Maybe that is how the mistake happened? The correct father is:

H2. [3m.] Guillaume VII (IX), Duke of Aquitaine (1086-1126), Ct of Poitou, *1071, +1126/27; 1m: 1089 (div 1090) Ermengarde d'Anjou (+1146); 2m: 1094 (div 1115) Philippa=Matilda of Toulouse (+28.11.1117)

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Another Guillaume, so all we need to do is change birthdate to year=1071 and deathdate to year=1126 of character 5733 Guillaume and everything will be fixed.
Solution: Change birthdate of 5733 Guillaume to 1126 and deathdate to 1126.
MC_1187_22
Mahaut de Blois
Father: 5891 Thibault yr=1093 - 1152 married to 5893 Mathilde von Sponheim (yr=1108 - 0) from 1129 - 1152
Mother: None
Marriage: 5880 Rotrou yr=1150 - 0 du Perche (marriage from 1187 - 0)
Siblings: 5892 Thibault yr=1130 - 1191 (mother 5893 Mathilde); 5966 Henri yr=1126 - 1181 (mother 5893 Mathilde); 6002 Marie yr=1128 - 1190 (mother 5893 Mathilde); 5505 Adelaide yr=1140 - 1206 (mother 5893 Mathilde)
Children: 5882 Geoffrey yr=1174 - 0; 5883 Etienne yr=1176 - 0; 5884 Guillaume yr=1179 - 0; 5885 Beatrix yr=1182 - 0
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/blois/blois1.html
There are more siblings at that page, but all that are ingame check 100%. Father 5891 Thibault and mother 5893 Mathilde fit almost perfect. Therefore our Mahaut is:

F8. Mahaut de Blois; m.Cte Rotrou III du Perche (+1191)

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No dates and children here. But as a side effect our Mahaut 5890 gets a mother 5893 Mathilde von Sponheim.
http://www.worldroots.com/ged/pomer/dat95.html

Perche, Rotrou III du Comte: yr=1125 - 13 JUL 1191 Acre,Palistine
Marriage: AFT 1155 with Champagne, Mathilde de Blois: 1140
Her Parents: Chartres, Theobald IV Blois comte-palatin and Carinthia, Maud Mathilde von

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AHA! Marriage started in 1155; she was born in 1140! Her children are also on that website.
Solution: Mahaut 5890 gets a mother 5893 Mathilde von Sponheim; Mahaut 5890 gets a new birthdate 1140; Marriage of Mahaut 5890 and 5880 Rotrou starts in 1155.
MC_1187_23
Bertrand d'Urgel
Father: 5985 Guillaume yr=1110 - 1150
Mother: None
Marriage: 5990 Josserane yr=1110 - 1164 de Flotte (marriage: yr=1135 - 1150)
Siblings: None
Children: 5980 Guillaume yr=1137 - 0; 5983 Bertrand yr=1140 - 1209; 5984 Alix yr=1149 - 0
Grandfather: 10578 Ermengol yr=1056 - 1092 d'Urgell
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/barcelona/barcelona6.html

Grandfather:
C1. Armengol IV "el de Gerp", Cde de Urgel, *1056, +1092; 1m: ca 1077 Lucia (+ca 1079) dau.of Ct Bernard I de la Marche; 2m: 1079 Adelaide de Provence, Cts de Forcalquier (+1129)
Father:
D2. [2m.] Guillaume III, Cte de Forcalquier, +1129; m.Gersende, dau.of Cte Guigues d'Albon
Bertrand:
E2. Bertrand II, Cte de Forcalquier, living 1150; m.Josserande, dau.of Arnauld de Flotte
Children:
F1. Bertrand III, Cte de Forcalquier, +1207; m.Cecilia de Bezieres
F2. Guillaume IV, Cte de Forcalquier, living 1209; m.Adelaida de Bezieres
F3. Alix, Cts de Forcalquier, +after 9.4.1212; m.ca 1180 Girard II-Amic de Sabran, sn de Chateauneuf

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Grandfather 10578 Ermengol fits. Father 5985 Guillaume died in 1129. Other dates not accurate enough.
http://www.kittymunson.com/GEDbrows/g094.html#I01897
Solution: Change 5985 Guillaume to yr=1078 - 1129.
MC_1187_24
Guillaume d'Urgel
Solved with MC_1187_23.
MC_1187_25
Eudes de Bourgogne
Father: 6005 Henri yr=1074 - 1035 DIED BEFORE HE WAS BORN!
Mother: None
Marriage: None
Siblings: 6006 Henri yr=1066 - 1112
Children: 6003 Hugues Borel yr=1084 - 1143
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet9.html

A2. [1m.] Henri de Bourgogne, *ca 1035, +1066/74; m.ca 1056 Sibylle of Barcelona (*1035 +after 1074)
B1. Duc Hugues I de Bourgogne (1076-79) resigned, then Abbot of Cluny, *ca 1057, +Cluny 29.8.1093, bur there; m.ca 1075 Sibylle=Yolande (*1058, +Cluny 1078, bur there) dau.of Cte Guillaume I de Nevers
B2. Duc Eudes I Borel de Bourgogne (1078-1103), *ca 1058, +Tarsus 23.3.1103, bur Citeaux; m.1080 Sibylle de Bourgogne (*1065 +after 1103)
C1. Duc Hugues II Borel de Bourgogne (1103-42), *1084, +1143, bur Citeaux; m.ca 1115 Matilda de Mayenne (+Beaune after 1162, bur there)
C2. Henri de Bourgogne, a priest, *1087, +9.3.1131, bur Citeaux
C3. Hélie, *1080, +28.2.1142; 1m: VI.1095 Cte Bertrand de Toulouse (+1112); 2m: ca 1115 Guillaume, Cte d'Alen�on
C4. Florine, *1083, +1097; m.Pr Svend of Denmark (+1097)
B3. Robert, Bp of Langres, *1059, +Chatillon-sur-Seine 18.9.1111, bur Abbaye de Molesmes
B4. Renaud, Abbot of St.Pierre in Flavigny, *1065, +1.10.1092
B5. Henri, Count of Portugal, *Dijon 1066, +Astorga, Galicia 1112, bur Braga Cathedral; m.1093/95 Infanta Teresa of Leon and Castile (*1070 +1130)
B6. Hélie, *1061, a nun
B7. Beatrix, *1063; m.Guy I de Vignory

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Only underlined characters are in the game and they all fit except the father 6005 Henri yr=1074 - 1035.
Solution: Change 6005 Henri to yr=1035 - 1074.
MC_1187_26
Henri de Bourgogne
Solved with MC_1187_25.
MC_1187_27
Albrecht Askanien
Father: 12030 Otto yr=1126 - 1184
Mother: 21513 Judyta yr=1130 - 1170
Marriage: None
Siblings: 12031 Heinrich yr=1153 - 0; 12037 Otto yr=1151 - 0
Children: None
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/ascania/ascan1.html
Deathdate of mother 21513 Judyta is set between 1171-75 and birthdate of 12032 Albrecht is set solid to 1174.
Solution: Change deathdate of 21513 Judyta to 1174.
MC_1187_28
Hermann von Zähringen
Father: 12410 Hermann yr=1105 - 1160
Mother: 12593 Berthe yr=1140 - 1161 de Lorraine (marriage: 1132 - 1160)
Marriage: 12401 Bertha yr=1140 - 1172 von Tubingen (marriage: 1162 - 1172)
Siblings: None
Children: 12402 Hermann yr=1166 - 1243; 12403 Friedrich yr=1167 - 1231; 12404 Gertrud yr=1170 - 0; 12405 Heinrich yr=1171 - 1231
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/baden/baden1.html

Father:
C1. Hermann III "der Grosse", Herr von Baden und Lintburg (1130-60), Mgve of Verona, +after 12.7.1153/16.1.1160, bur Backnang; 1m: before 1134 Bertha de Lorraine (+after 1162); 2m: after 1141 Maria of Bohemia
Our Hermann:
D1. [1m.] Hermann IV, Markgraf von Baden und Verona (1160-90), +k.a.Antioch 13.9.1190; m.before 1162 Bertha von Tübingen (+24.2.1169, bur Backnang); ?(2m: Udalhildis N)

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Children are also there and are OK. Father 12410 and our Hermann 12400 are also OK. Marriage start dates are OK.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jamesdow/s017/f020944.htm

Bertha of LOTHRINGEN (LORRAINE): abt. 1121 - abt. 1179

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Solution: Set 12593 Berthe de Lorraine to yr=1121 - 1179.
MC_1187_29
Friedrich von Hohenstaufen
Father: 12495 Friederich yr=1090 - 1147
Mother: 12496 Agnes yr=1115 - 1148 (marriage: 1138 - 1147)
Marriage: 5599 Beatrix yr=1145 - 1184 (marriage: 1156 -1184)
Siblings: 12490 Konrad yr=1140 - 1196; 12497 Judith yr=1135 - 1191; 12499 Berthe yr=1123 - 1195 (mother 12498 Judith)
Children: 12500 Friedrich yr=1167 - 1191; 12505 Konrad yr=1173 - 1196; 12506 Phillipp yr=1177 - 1208; 12507 Heinrich yr=1165 - 1197; 12509 Beatrix yr=1169 - 1181; 12510 Agnes yr=1170 - 1184; 12511 Otto yr=1167 - 1200; 12512 Freidrich yr=1164 - 1170
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/hohst/hohenstauf.html

Parents:
C1. Friedrich II, Duke of Swabia (1105-47), *ca 1090, +Alzey 1147; 1m: ca 1121 Judith Welf (*ca 1100 +ca 1132); 2m: ca 1135 Agnes of Saarbrücken (+after 1147)
Our Friedrich:
D1. [1m.] Friedrich III Barbarossa, Duke of Swabia (1147-52), King of Italy (1154-86), King of Germany (1152-90) =as Friedrich I, Emperor from 18.6.1155, cr in Rome, Comte de Bourgogne (1156-90), King of Bourgogne 1178, *1122, +drown in Göks River 10.6.1190; 1m: ca 1147 (div 1153) Adéle von Vohbourg (*1122 +1190), dau.of Diepold III, Mgve of Vohbourg; 2m: Wurzburg 10.6.1156 Béatrice I de Bourgogne (*ca 1145 +1184); all kids by 2m.

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Children: 12510 Agnes birthdate to 1180. 12509 Beatrix fixed with MC_1187_20. Others fit perfectly.
Wife 5599 Beatrix OK.
Siblings: Excellent fit.
Father (C1) 12495 Friedrich fits.
Our Friedrich (D1) 12501 fits.
Mother is wrong. The mother should be 12498 Judith.
Solution: 12510 Agnes birthdate 1180. 12501 Friedrich gets a new mother 12498 Judith.
MC_1187_30
Simon de Lorraine
Father: 12581 Mathieu yr=1139 - 1176
Mother: 12499 Berthe yr=1123 - 1195
Marriage: 12615 Agnes yr=1158 - 0
Siblings: 12582 Judith yr=1140 - 1176; 12583 Ferry yr=1142 - 0; 12584 Mathias yr=1144 - 0; 12585 Thierry yr=1146 - 1181; 12586 Philippe yr=1148 - 0; 12587 Alix yr=1149 - 0; 12588 Sophie yr=1150 - 0
Children: None
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/lorraine/lorraine11.html

Father:
C1. Duke Matthias I of Lorraine (1138-76), *ca 1119, +13.5.1176; m.ca 1138 Bertha of Swabia (+ca 1195)
Simon:
D1. Duke Simon II of Lorraine (1176-1205), *before 1152, +1.4.1206/14.1.1207; 1m: Agnes von Veldenz; 2m: after 1190 Ida de Mâcon (+ca 1227) dau.of Cte Gerard de Vienne

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His siblings are somewhat strang on that site. I guess we have French versions of their names. Irrelevant.
Solution: 12581 Mathieu gets a new birthdate 1119.
MC_1187_31
Judith de Lorraine
Solved with MC_1187_30.
MC_1187_32
Ferry de Lorraine
Solved with MC_1187_30.
MC_1187_33
Mathias de Lorraine
Solved with MC_1187_30.
MC_1187_34
Thierry de Lorraine
Solved with MC_1187_30.
MC_1187_35
Philippe de Lorraine
Solved with MC_1187_30.
MC_1187_36
Klementia von Zähringen
Father: 13146 Konrad yr=1098 - 1152
Mother: 12693 Clementia yr=1115 - 1158 de Namur
Marriage: 12600 Heinrich yr=1129 - 1195; 13110 Humbert yr=1136 - 1189
Siblings: 13141 Berchtold yr=1135 - 1186; 13148 Rudolf yr=1140 - 1191
Children: 12571 Gertrude yr=1150 - 0; 13115 Sophie yr=1165 - 1202; 13116 Eleonore yr=1166 - 1204
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/baden/baden1.html

Parents:
B3. Duke Konrad I of Zähringen, +8.1.1152; m.Clemence de Namur (*ca 1110 +28.12.1158)

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I'm just going to change the mother and be done with it. Not too many dates are on that web-page.
Solution: Change birthdate of 12693 Clementia to 1110. 12 years old when her daughter is born...
MC_1187_37
Ida von Babenberg
Father: 12548 Ernst yr=1027 - 1075
Mother: None
Marriage: 12889 Lupold yr=1086 - 1112 Premyslid (marriage: 1110-1112)
Siblings: 12546 Leopold yr=1073 - 1136; 31030 Adalbert yr=1057 - 1141
Children: 21522 Konrad yr=1111 - 1161
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/babenberg/babenberg.html

B2. [1m.] Mgve Ernst of Austria (1055-75), *1027, +k.a.9.6.1075; 1m: Adelheid of Meissen (+1071); 2m: Suanahild N

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This is the only character I can identify. Generations are mixed up.
MC_1187_38
Otto von Wittelsbach
Father: 12962 Otto yr=1107 - 1156
Mother: 12963 Heilika yr=1110 - 1170 von Lengenfeld (marriage: 1125 - 1156)
Marriage: 12970 Agnes yr=1150 - 1191 von Loon (marriage: 1172 - 1183)
Siblings: None
Children: 12950 Ludwig yr=1174 - 1231; 12951 Sophie yr=1170 - 0; 12952 Heilika yr=1171 - 0; 12953 Agnes yr=1172 - 0; 12954 Heilika yr=1176 - 0; 12955 Richardis yr=1173 - 0; 12956 Elisabeth yr=1178 - 0; 12957 Mechtilde yr=1180 - 0
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wittel/wittel1.html

Parents:
C1. Otto II, Gf von Wittelsbach, Pfgf in Bayern 1121, +4.8.1156, bur Ensdorf; m.Heilika von Lengenfeld-Hopfenohe-Pettendorf (+1170, bur Ensdorf)
Our Otto:
D1. Otto I "der Grosse", Duke of Bavaria (16.9.1180-1183), *Kehlheim (?) ca 1117, +Pfullendorf in Baden 11.7.1183, bur Scheyern; m.Agnes von Looz (*ca 1150 +1191)

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All fits. Parents are a little bit to young. No dates for them here.
http://www.aragon10.free-online.co.uk/cilia la corte-legacy/6350.htm
There is our answer.
Solution: Change birthdate of 12962 Otto to 1085. Change birthdate of 12963 Heilika to 1090.
MC_1187_39
Sophie de Savoie
Father: 13110 Humbert yr=1136 - 1189
Mother: 12601 Klementia yr=1122 - 1160 von Zähringen (MC_1187_36)
Marriage: None
Siblings: 13116 Eleonore yr=1166 - 1204; 13117 Thomas yr=1178 - 1233 (mother 13114 Beatrix 1166 - 1229)
Children: None
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/savoy/savoy1.html

Parents:
E1. Ct Umberto III of Savoy, Aosta and Moriana (1148-89), *4.8.1136, +4.3.1189; 1m: 1151 Faidiva (+ca 1154) dau.of Cte Alphons-Jourdan de Toulouse; 2m: 1157 (div 1163) Gertrude of Lorraine, Css of Flanders (+1173); 3m: 1164 Klementia von Zähringen (+before 1167); 4m: 1177 Beatrix de Mâcon (+before 8.4.1230)
Sophie:
F3. [3m.] Sophia, *1165, +3.12.1202; m.Azzo VI d'Este (*1170 +18.11.1212)

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Sophie's dates seem solid. Mother is the problem.
Solution: 12601 Klementia von Zähringen (MC_1187_36) gets a new deathdate 1166.
MC_1187_40
Eleonore de Savoie
Solved with MC_1187_39
MC_1187_41
Eudoxia Komnenos
Father: 23024 Andronikos yr=1106 - 1142
Mother: None
Marriage: 5580 Guillaume yr=1158 - 0 de Montpellier (marriage 1186 - 0)
Siblings: 12541 Theodora yr=1133 - 1184; 15570 Ioannes yr=1128 - 1176
Children: 5582 Marie yr=1186 - 0
Grandfather: 23023 Ioannes yr=1087 - 1143
Grand-grandfather: 23025 Alexios yr=1048 - 1118
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/byzant/byzant1.html

B3. ALEXIOS I Komnenos, Emperor of Byzantium (1081-1118), *1048/57, +15.8.1118; 1m: ca 1075 Argyropulina N (+ca 1077); 2m: ca 1078 Eirene Dukaina (*1066 +1123/36)
C1. IOANNES II Komnenos Dukas, Emperor of Byzantium (1118-43), *1087, +8.4.1143; m.1104/5 Piroska=St.Eirene of Hungary (+13.8.1134)
D2. Andronikos Komnenos, *1108, +1142; m.ca 1124 Eirene Aineidasa (+1150/1)
* E1. Ioannes Komnenos, Duke of Cyprus, *1128, +1176; m.ca 1146 Maria Taronitissa

* E2. Alexios Komnenos, lover of the Empress Maria Komnena and leader of her regency council, *1136, +murdered 1183; m.Maria Dukaina
* E3. Maria Komnene, *1126, +?; 1m: 1139 Theodoros Dasiotes (+1143/4); 2m: 1145/50 Ioannes Kantukuzenos (+1176)
* E4. Eudokia Komnene; 1m: (div 1149) Thoros II, Lord of the Mountains; 2m: Michael Gabras (+after 1170)
* E5. Theodora Komnene, +1183; m.1148 Duke Heinrich II of Austria and Bavaria (*1112 +1177)

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B3 grand-grandfather OK. C1 grandfather OK. D2 father OK. Siblings E1 and E5 OK.
Our Eudokia is the problem. No dates. Wrong marriage. I suspect character 15505 is not E4. Who is she? Well, same site:

# E2. Alexios Komnenos, lover of the Empress Maria Komnena and leader of her regency council, *1136, +murdered 1183; m.Maria Dukaina
* F1. Androikos Komnenos, +young after falling from horse
* F2. Eudokia Komnena, *1167, +ca 1202; m.1178/79 Guillaume VIII de Montpellier (+1218)

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Our 15505 Eudokia is a daughter of Alexios E2 and I couldn't find him in the files.
Solution: I'm not too convinced, but removing reference to father for 15505 Eudoxia should be the way to go.
MC_1187_42
Salome von Berg-Schelklingen
Father: 21518 Heinrich yr=1068 - 1098
Mother: None
Marriage: 21515 Boleslaw yr=1085 - 1138 Piast (marriage: 1115 - 1138)
Siblings: None
Children: 21510 Henryk yr=1129 - 1166; 21511 Ryksa yr=1116 - 1155; 21512 Dobronega yr=1129 - 1165; 21513 Judyta yr=1130 - 1170; 21514 Agnieszka yr=1137 - 1182; 21520 Kazimierz yr=1138 - 1194; 21560 Mieszko yr=1126 - 0
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/piast/piast1.html

F1. [1m.] Boleslaw III "Krzywousty" "Wrymouth", Ct of Poland (1102-11)+(1111-39), Duke of Pomerania (1122-38), *20.8.1085, +28.10.1138; 1m: 1103 Zbyslava of Kiev (+1109/12); 2m: III/VII.1115 Salome (+1144) dau.of Gf Heinrich von Berg-Schelkingen; Before his death arranged a careful division of his domains among his numerous sons.

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No usefull dates for 21519 Salome and 21518 father Heinrich.
father Heinrich.They seem pretty sure: yr=1077 - 1132
Salome: exactly as in the game.
Solution: Change birthdate of 21518 Heinrich to 1077 and deathdate to 1132.
MC_1187_43
Rostislav Rurikovich
Father: 22508 Volodar yr=1060 - 1124
Mother: None
Marriage: None
Siblings: 22502 Vladimirko yr=1104 - 1153
Children: 22511 Ivan yr=1120 - 1161
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/russia/rurik3.html

B2. Volodar, Pr of Zwenigorod (1084-92), Pr of Peremyshl/Przemysl (1092-1124), +19.3.1124, bur Przemysl; m.N, a Pomeranian princess
* C1. Vladimirko, Pr of Zwenihorod (1124-29), Pr of Przemysl (1129-53), Pr of Terebovlya (1141-53), united all these lands into the Princedom of Halicz (or Galicia) in 1141, *1104, +II.1153; m.ca 1117 N, a dau.of King Koloman of Hungary
* C2. Rostislav, Pr of Przemysl (1124-29), +1129
o D1. Ivan "Berladnik"", Pr of Zwenihorod (1129-45), Pr of Halicz/Galicia (1145), +poisoned at Thessaloniki 1161

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Undoubtedly those are our characters. Deathdates and realtions are solid, but no birthdates which are problematic.
http://www5.familytreemaker.com/users/s/m/y/Bonnie-K-Smyre/ODT3-0001.html

8 Volodar Rostislavich 1065 - 1123/24 Ruler of: Peremyshal
+Unknown WifeOf VolodarRostislavich Of: Pomerania
.. 9 Vladimirko Volodarovich 1095 - 1152/53 Ruler of: Galich
.. 9 Rostislav Volodarovich 1093 - 1143 Ruler of: Peremyshal
.... 10 Ivan 'Berladnik' Rostislavich - 1161

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I managed to dig out some birthdates. I doubt that they are reliable, but they are fixing the problem.
Solution: Change birthdate of 22512 Rostislav to 1093. His son Ivan easily fits his father's new birthdate.
MC_1187_44
Izyaslav Rurikovich
Father: 22574 Mstislav yr=1076 - 1132 (married to 22575 Christina Ingesdottir (yr=*1080 - +1122) from 1095-1122)
Mother: 22576 Liubava yr=1100 - 1168 (not married to 22574 Mstislav)
Marriage: None
Siblings: 22572 Rostislav yr=1110 - 1168 (with mother 22575); 22573 Yevfrosinia yr=1130 - 1176; 22592 Vladimir yr=1132 - 1171; 22593 Ingeborg yr=1100 - 1181; 22594 Malfrida yr=1101 - 1161; 22603 Agafia yr=1100 - 1150 (with mother 22575); 22822 Vsyevolod yr=1096 - 1138
Children: 22522 Mstislav yr=1130 - 1170; 22622 Yaroslav yr=1132 - 1180; 22826 Yevdokia yr=1136 - 0
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/russia/rurik8.html
Solutions:
New marriage: between 22574 Mstislav and 22576 Liubava from 1122 to 1132.
22593 Ingeborg gets a different mother 22575 Christina Ingesdottir.
22594 Malfrida gets a different mother 22575 Christina Ingesdottir.
22822 Vsyevolod gets a different mother 22575 Christina Ingesdottir.
22525 Izyaslav gets a different mother 22575 Christina Ingesdottir. (not explicitly stated on that site, but implied by the 2nd marriage start-date).
MC_1187_45
Ingeborg Rurikovich
Solved with MC_1187_44.
MC_1187_46
Malfrida Rurikovich
Solved with MC_1187_44.
MC_1187_47
Yaroslav Rurikovich
Father: 22698 Svyatoslav yr=1027 - 1076
Mother: None
Marriage: None
Siblings: 22604 Oleg yr=1065 - 1115
Children: 22744 Rostislav yr=1100 - 1155; 22757 Svyatoslav yr=1098 - 1145
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/russia/rurik5.html

Father:
Pr Svyatoslav II of Chernigov (1054-73), Great Pr of Kiev (1073-76), *1027, +1076; m.2m: 1070 Oda von Babenberg, a half-sister of Archbp Burghard of Trier
Yaroslav:
A5. Yaroslav, Pr of Murom (1097-1129), Pr of Riazanj (1097-1123)+(1127-30), Pr of Chernigov (1123-27), +1130; m.NN

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Father's (22698 Svyatoslav) dates are perfect. Birthdate of 22756 Yaroslav is still uncertain.
http://www.geocities.com/ritell63/tree/fam01303.html
On several sites birthdate of Yaroslav is set to abt 1060.
Guess what; In 1066 scenario Yaroslav's birthdate (ID=628) is set to 1065. He has a lot of brothers who don't appear in the 1187 scenario. Don't care.
Solution: Set birthdate of 22756 Yaroslav to 1065.
MC_1187_48
Vseslav Rurikovich
Father: 22804 Bryachislav yr=1030 - 1101
Mother: None
Marriage: None
Siblings: None
Children: 22554 Vasilko yr=1100 - 1144 HAS TWO FATHERS! The second one is 22555 Sviatoslav yr=1080 - 1129; 22794 Gleb yr=1075 - 1119
Grandfather: 22695 Izyaslav yr=980 - 1001
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/russia/rurik2.html

Grandfather:
Izyaslav, inherited Polotsk from his mother - Pr of Polotzk (988-1001), *ca 980, +1001;
Father:
A2. Bryachislav, Pr of Polotzk (1003-44), Pr of Vitebsk (1021-44), *ca 997, +1044; m.N ("a witch")
Vseslav:
B1. Vseslav "the Sorcerer", Pr of Polotsk (1044-69)+(1071-1101), Gr Pr of Kiev (IX.1068-IV.1069), *ca 1030, +14.4.1101, bur St.Sophia Cathedral, Polotsk

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Grandfather 22695 Izyaslav is perfect. Father 22804 Bryachislav is wrong. Vseslav 22803 is perfect.
About 22554 Vasilko

C6. Sviatoslav, Pr of Vitebsk (1101-29); m.Sofia of Kiev
D1. Vasilko, Pr of Polotsk (1132-44), +1144

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Almost certainly his father is 22555 Sviatoslav (compare deathdates with the game)!
Solution: Set Father 22804 Bryachislav to yr=997-1044. Delete reference to father 22803 Vseslav for 22554 Vasilko. Make 22555 Sviatoslav a son of 22803 Vseslav.
MC_1187_49
Bryachislav Rurikovich
Solved withMC_1187_48.
MC_1187_50
Vsyevolod Rurikovich
Solved with MC_1187_44.
MC_1187_51
Amaury de Lusignan
Solved with MC_1187_18.
MC_1187_52
Bohemond de Hauteville
Father: 11506 Robert Guiscard yr=1020 - 1085
Mother: None
Marriage: 5511 Constance yr=1078 - 1124 Capet (marriage from 1107 - 0)
Siblings: 11519 Roger Borsa yr=1060 - 1111
Children: 23700 Bohemond yr=1108 - 1130
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/italy/hautvle.html

Father:
A4. [2m.] Robert Guiscard, Duke of Normandy, Duke of Apulia, Calabria and Sicily (1059-85), *ca 1015, +VII.1085; 1m: Aubree N; 2m: 1058 Sichelgrite di Salerno
Bohemond (23710) Senior:
B1. [1m.] Bohemond I, Duke of Tarento, Duke of Antioch (1098-1108/11), *1054, +7.3.1111; m.Chartres 1106 Constance of France (*1078 +1124/26)
Bohemond (23700) Junior:
C1. Bohemond II, Duke of Antioch (1126-30), *1107/09, +5.2.1130; m.1126 Alix de Rethel, Regent of Jerusalem (*1110 +after 1136)

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Obviously, our Bohemond (23710) Senior is wrong.
Solution: Set birthdate of Bohemond (23710) Senior to 1054.
MC_1187_53
Raymond de Poitou
Solved with MC_1187_21.
MC_1187_54
Baudouin de Poitou
Father: 23740 Raymond yr=1119 - 1149 (MC_1187_53)
Mother: 23720 Constance yr=1128 - 1163 de Hauteville
Marriage: None
Siblings: 23743 Marie yr=1145 - 1166; 23744 Philippa yr=1148 - 1178; 23750 Bohemond yr=1140 - 0; 23593 Agnes yr=1154 - 1184 (with father 23590 Renaud yr=1131 - 1187 de Chatillon); 23594 Alix yr=1157 - 1200 (with father 23590 Renaud yr=1131 - 1187 de Chatillon)
Children: None
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/poitou/poitou2.html

Parents:
Raimund de Poitiers, Prince of Antioch (1136-49), +k.a.1149; m.1136 Constance de Hauteville, Pss of Antioch (*1127 +1163)
Baudouin:
A2. Baldwin de Poitiers, +k.a.Myriokephalon 1176.

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No birthdates.
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~wdwrth/Master/d0000/g0000254.html

Raymond I of Poitiers: ABT 1100 - 27 Jun 1149

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http://www.pcug.org.au/~ronwells/20-29.htm

CONSTANCE, when aged only 9 yrs m RAYMOND de Poitiers-Guyenne, son of GUILLEM

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Perverts! Anyway, this sets her birthdate around that in game. Ergo, problem is in 23742 Baudoin's birthdate.
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cousin/html/p116.htm#i7516

Children of Raymond, prince d' Antioch and Constance, princesse d' Antioch:
Baldwin d' Antioch b. c 1140, d. 1176
Maria, Impératrice+ b. c 1145, d. 22 Aug 1182
Philippa d' Antioch+ b. a 1145, d. 1178
Bohémond III, prince d' Antioch+ b. c 1147, d. c 1201
Raymond, Prince of Antioch+ b. c 1148?;?

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Gotcha!
Solution: 23742 Baudoin gets a new birthdate 1140.
Accidental finds:
Change deathdate of 23743 Marie to 1182.
Change birthdate of 23740 Raymond to 1106.
MC_1187_55
Robert de Vere
Father: 4550 Aubrey yr=1120 - 1194
Mother: 4575 Lucia yr=1155 - 0 of Essex
Marriage: None
Siblings: 4552 Ralph yr=1168 - 1214; 4553 Henry yr=1172 - 0; 4554 Alice yr=1174 - 0; 4555 Aubrey yr=1176 - 1214
Children: None
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jamesdow/s097/f751096.htm

Agnes (Lucy) of Essex de ABRINCIS: yr=abt. 1124 - aft. 1194

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Since this fits nicely with the rest of the characters, I'll take it.
Solution: Change birthdate of 4575 Lucia to 1124.
MC_1187_56
Esclarmonde de Foix
Father: 5550 Roger-Bernard yr=1130 - 0
Mother: 5573 Cecile yr=1150 - 0 Trencavel (MC_1187_16)
Marriage: None
Siblings: 5554 Raimond-Roger yr=1155 - 0; 5555 Sibylle yr=1160 - 0
Children: None
There is a problem with 5573 Cecile Trencavel (MC_1187_16) and her parents. It seems that her origin is uncertain.
MC_1187_57
Raimond-Roger de Foix
Solved with MC_1187_56.
MC_1187_58
Jourdain de Talleyrand
Father: 5601 Helie yr=1085 - 1144
Mother: 5556 Brunichilde yr=1126 - 0 de Foix
Marriage: 5605 Archambaud de Comborn yr=1115 - 1176 NAMELESS (Marriage: 1150 - 1176)
Siblings: 5600 Helie yr=1140 - 0
Children: 5607 Guillemette yr=1150 - 0
http://herve.gros.nom.fr/genanglais/html/dat318.htm#8
They say that mother 5556 Brunichilde was born abt 1120. I'll take it.
Solution: Change birthdate of 5556 Brunichilde to 1120.
MC_1187_59
Gerard de Macon
Father: 5700 Guillaume yr=1159 - 0
Mother: 5963 Scolastique yr=1169 - 0 de Champagne
Marriage: None
Siblings: None
Children: None
http://gilles.maillet.free.fr/histoire/famille_bourgogne/comte_macon.htm
Gerard and Father are OK. The problem is the mother.
http://users.skynet.be/nobily/nobily/pafg1994.htm#49676
This site claims that 5963 Scolastique de Champagne was born around 1170. This does not agree with birthdate of 5703 Gerard de Macon, so I will leave it as it is and mark it as unsolved.
MC_1187_60
Elvira de Lara
Father: 7540 Pedro Manrique yr=1140 - 0 (married to 6511 Sancha yr=1144 - 0)
Mother: None
Marriage: 10572 Ermengol yr=1096 - 1154
Siblings: 7542 Aymeric yr=1170 - 0 (mother 6511); 7543 Ermengarde yr=1176 - 0 (mother 6511); 7544 Gonzalo Perez yr=1175 - 0 (mother 6511)
Children: 10575 Maria yr=1150 - 1196
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ermengol_VI_de_Urgel

Hacia el 1135 se casó en segundas nupcias con Elvira de Lara, hija de Rodrigo de Lara y de la infanta Sancha de Castilla.

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Her father is Rodrigo, not Pedro Manrique.FUBAR.
MC_1187_61
Mechtilde von Wasserburg
Father: 12964 Dietrich yr=1142 - 0
Mother: 12954 Heilika yr=1176 - 0
Marriage: None
Siblings: None
Children: None
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/german/diessen2.htmlNo dates.Father is OK.Mother Heilika I. v.Bayern is born in 1176. Mechtilde was born in 1180. Impossible.

Post over 40 000 characters. Continued in Part 2.

unmerged(11427) · Mar 17, 2006

Another minor issue popped up. There are characters that have the same trait declared multiple times. Cause was in merger of several traits (for example stutter and lisp). The change is cosmetic cause the game can handle it the way it is.
In the following three posts are 'corrected' character definitions; one post per scenario. I believe (hope) those are the only ones.

unmerged(11427) · Mar 17, 2006

1066 scenario: multiple traits

98 Edgar of Essex: 3x illness and 2x lisp

Code:

character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 98 }
	name = "Edgar"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =100072 }
	country = ENGL
	religion = catholic
	culture = Saxon
	birthdate = { year = 944 month = january day = 1 }
	deathdate = { year = 975 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "38304760410973"
	attributes = {
		martial = 2
		diplomacy = 10
		intrigue = 10
		stewardship = 8
		health = 7
		fertility = 5
	}
	traits = {
		kinslayer = yes
		heretic = yes
		illness = yes
		hunchback = yes
		clubfooted = yes
		lisp = yes
		harelip = yes
		bastard = yes
		grey_eminence = yes
		war_invalid = yes
		excommunicated = yes
	}
}

1752 Ioannes Komnenus: 2x illness

Code:

character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 1752 }
	name = "Ioannes"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =634 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 1750 }
	country = SINO
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	score = { gold = 25 prestige = 0 piety = 0 }
	birthdate = { year = 1006 month = january day = 1 }
	deathdate = { year = 1067 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "29075596929297"
	attributes = {
		martial = 5
		diplomacy = 8
		intrigue = 4
		stewardship = 7
		health = 1
		fertility = 6
	}
	traits = {
		zealous = yes
		illness = yes
		martial_cleric = yes
	}
}

106012 Fernando Jimenez: 2x lisp

Code:

character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 106012 }
	name = "Fernando"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =442 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 106010 }
	mother = { type = 10 id = 1079 }
	country = NAVA
	religion = catholic
	culture = Castillan
	birthdate = { year = 1043 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "68299398826979"
	attributes = {
		martial = 7
		diplomacy = 8
		intrigue = 5
		stewardship = 8
		health = 8
		fertility = 5
	}
	traits = {
		zealous = yes
		lisp = yes
		proven_dealbreaker = yes
	}
}

107520 Iñigo de Haro: 2x lisp

Code:

character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 107520 }
	name = "Iñigo"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =412 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 107530 }
	mother = { type = 10 id = 107531 }
	country = C153
	religion = catholic
	culture = Castillan
	score = { gold = 25 prestige = 100 piety = 100 }
	birthdate = { year = 1030 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "02946436778064"
	attributes = {
		martial = 4
		diplomacy = 5
		intrigue = 8
		stewardship = 6
		health = 7
		fertility = 6
	}
	traits = {
		just = yes
		lisp = yes
		naive_wirepuller = yes
	}
}

unmerged(11427) · Mar 17, 2006

1187 scenario: multiple traits

6035 Marie d'Auvergne: 2x lisp

Code:

character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 6035 }
	name = "Marie"
	gender = female
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =733 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 6030 }
	mother = { type = 10 id = 6017 }
	country = C217
	religion = catholic
	culture = Frankish
	score = { gold = 50 prestige = 100 piety = 100 }
	birthdate = { year = 1162 month = january day = 1 }
	deathdate = { year = 1202 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "26116773071584"
	attributes = {
		martial = 5
		diplomacy = 9
		intrigue = 7
		stewardship = 6
		health = 6
		fertility = 4
	}
	traits = {
		lisp = yes
		wise = yes
		intricate_webweaver = yes
	}
}

unmerged(11427) · Mar 17, 2006

1337 scenario: multiple traits

55766 Yolande de Dampierre: 2x proud

Code:

character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 55766 }
	name = "Yolande"
	gender = female 
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =92 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 55767 }
	country = C129
	religion = Catholic
	culture = Frankish
	birthdate = { year = 1320 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "10456045634546"
	attributes = {
		martial = 5
		diplomacy = 5
		intrigue = 7
		stewardship = 5
		health = 9
		fertility = 5
	}
	traits = {
		proud = yes
		generous = yes
		amateurish_pettifogger = yes
	}
}

unmerged(11427) · Mar 29, 2006

MC solutions for 1187 scenario (Part 2)

MC_1187_62
Konrad Piast
Father: 21530 Boleslaw yr=1127 - 0
Mother: 21541 Christina yr=1150 - 0
Marriage: None
Siblings: 21532 Jaroslaw yr=1145 - 0 (Mother 22823 Vierkuslava yr=1122 - 1158); 21533 Olga yr=1155 - 1175 (Mother 22823 Vierkuslava yr=1122 - 1158); 21535 Boleslaw yr=1157 - 1181; 21536 Jan yr=1161 - 1174; 21537 Henryk yr=1165 - 0; 21538 Wladyslaw yr=1181 - 0; 21539 Bertha yr=1167 - 0; 21540 Adelajda yr=1165 - 0;
Children: None
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/piast/piast4.html
Everyone is fine, but there is no info on the mother's birthdate. I can't find anything about her.
MC_1187_63
Boleslaw Piast
See MC_1187_62.
MC_1187_64
Katarina Sigurdsdatter of Norway
Father: 22595 Sigurd Magnusson yr=1090 - 1130
Mother: 22621 Malfrida yr=1150 - 0 Rurikovich
Marriage: 2050 Erling Ormsson 1115 - 1179 of Oppland
Siblings: None
Children: 2051 Magnus Erlingsson yr=1156 - 1184
http://www.progressus.se/mormor_morfar/tree/PS08/PS08_134.HTML

Name: Malmfrid av Kiev Mstislava, 25G Grandmother
Birth: 1104
Death: aft 1137
Father: Prince Mstislav II of Kiev (1076-1132)
Mother: Christina Ingesdottir av Sverige (ca1077-1122)
Spouses:
1 Sigurd Magnusson Slembe I, 25G Grandfather
Birth: 1089
Death: 26 Mar 1130/1139, Oslo, Norway
Father: Kung Magnus III Barelegs Olavsson (1073-1103)
Mother: Tora Saksesdatter
Children: Magnus (1115-1139)
Christina (1125-1178)

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Mother 22621 Malfrida Rurikovich was born in 1104. However her parents in game are not those from the above site. Moreover, it would FUBAR the parents birthdates.
I'm not touching it!

unmerged(11427) · Mar 30, 2006

DC solutions for 1187 scenario

DC_1187_1
Angus of Angus
ID=3074: yr=1171 - 1200
Father: 3021 Gillbride yr=1116 - 1187
Mother: None
Marriage: None
Siblings: 3007 Gilchrist yr=1145 - 1207 (mother 3020 Agnes yr=1118 - 1146); 3071 Adam yr=1143 - 1198; 3072 Gilbert yr=1150 - 1204; 3073 William yr=1170 - 1200; 3075 Angus yr=1171 - 1200;
Children: None

ID=3075: yr=1171 - 1200
Father: 3021 Gillbride yr=1116 - 1187
Mother: None
Marriage: None
Siblings: 3007 Gilchrist yr=1145 - 1207 (mother 3020 Agnes yr=1118 - 1146); 3071 Adam yr=1143 - 1198; 3072 Gilbert yr=1150 - 1204; 3073 William yr=1170 - 1200; 3074 Angus yr=1171 - 1200;
Children: None

http://www.genpc.com/gen/files/d0051/f0000010.html#I9006
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tomtowle/d0001/g0000068.html
3021 Gillbride had 5 sons. Only one Angus. Most sites don't even mention Angus.
http://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/british/aa/azmisc01.htm
On this site there is a Angus and Magnus (as possible child). Maybe, one of them should be Magnus.

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Three possiblities:
1) Delete character 3075 Angus.
2) Change the name of 3075 Angus to 3075 Magnus
3) Do 1) then change 3074 Agnus to 3074 Magnus
DC_1187_2
Ada de Warenne
DC_1187_2 Ada 3515 4642 de Warenne did=748 yr=1120 NO PARENTS

ID3515: Ada yr=1120 - 1178
Father: None
Mother: None
Marriage: 3511 Henry yr=1114 - 1152 Huntington
Siblings: None
Children: 2999 William yr=1143 - 1214; 3000 Malcolm yr=1142 - 1165; 3510 Margaret yr=1134 - 1201; 3512 Ada yr=1140 - 0; 3520 David yr=1144 - 0

ID4642:Ada yr=1120 - 1178
Father: None
Mother: None
Marriage: None
Siblings: None
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brit/dunkeld.html

D2. Henry, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland, *1115, +12.6.1152, bur Kelso Abbey, Roxburghshire; m.1139 Ada de Warenne (*ca 1120, +1178)

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Character 4642 is a clear duplicate. She is dead at the start of the scenario and not related to anyone.
Solution: Delete character 4642 Ada de Warene
DC_1187_3
Dietrich Wettin
ID 12042: 12042 Dietrich yr=1162 - 0
Father: 12038 Otto yr=1125 - 0
Mother: 12039 Hedwig yr=1126 - 0 Askanien
Marriage: None
Siblings: 12041 Albrecht yr=1158 - 0; 12043 Sofie yr=1162 - 0; 12044 Adelheid yr=1173 - 0
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wettin/wettin1.html

F2. Mgve Otto "der Reiche" of Meissen (1156-90), *1125, +18.2.1190, bur Altzelle; m.1147 Hedwig (+III.1203) dau.of Albrecht "the Bear", Mkgf von Brandenburg
* G1. Mgve Albrecht "der Stolze" of Meissen (1190-95), Gf von Merseburg, *1158, +Krummenhennersdorf 24.6.1195, bur Altzelle; m.Aussig 23.4.1186 Sofie of Bohemia (+24.5.1195)
* G2. Mgve Dietrich "der Bedröngte" of Meissen (1195/7-1221), in Weissenfels 1190, Mkgf der Niederlausitz, Gf von Groitzsch u.Eilenburg 1210, *1162, +17.2.1221, bur Altzelle; m.1194 Jutta of Thuringia (+Schleusingen 6.8.1235); by this marriage the Wettins inherited Thuringia
* G3. Sofie; m.Ulrich of Bohemia (*1134, +18.10.1177)
* G4. Adelheid, +Meissen 1.2.1211; m.1187 (div 1198/9) King Premysl Otakar I of Bohemia (*ca 1155 +15.12.1230)

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All fits, including birthdate.

ID 12051: 12051 Dietrich yr=1162 - 1215
Father: 12048 Dietrich yr=1127 - 1182
Mother: None
Marriage: None
Siblings: 12049 Konrad yr=1150 - 1172 (mother 21512 Dobronega yr=1129 - 1165 Piast); 12050 Gertrud yr=1159 - 1198 (mother 21512 Dobronega yr=1129 - 1165 Piast)

F5. Mgve Dietrich der Niederlausitz (1156-85), *before 1142, +Petersberg 9.2.1185, bur there; m.ca 1142 Dobronega of Poland (*ca 1128, +after 26.10.1147)
* G1. Konrad, +k.at a tournament 17.2.1175, bur Petersberg
* G2. Gertrud, a nun in Gerbstödt
* G3. [illegitimate by Kunigunde N, widowed Gfn von Plötzkeu] Dietrich zu Groitzsch, Bp of Merseburg (1204-15), legitimized 1203, +1215

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The other Dietrich is G3. No birthdates, but they are plausible.
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Solution: Both Dietrichs (ID=12042 and ID=12051) stay as they are. They are cousins.
DC_1187_4
Konrad Wettin
ID 12049: 12049 Konrad yr=1150 - 1172
Father: 12048 Dietrich yr=1127 - 1182
Mother: 21512 Dobronega yr=1129 - 1165 Piast
Marriage: None
Siblings: 12050 Gertrud yr=1159 - 1198; 12051 Dietrich yr=1162 - 1215 (no mother)
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wettin/wettin1.html

F5. Mgve Dietrich der Niederlausitz (1156-85), *before 1142, +Petersberg 9.2.1185, bur there; m.ca 1142 Dobronega of Poland (*ca 1128, +after 26.10.1147)
* G1. Konrad, +k.at a tournament 17.2.1175, bur Petersberg
* G2. Gertrud, a nun in Gerbstödt
* G3. [illegitimate by Kunigunde N, widowed Gfn von Plötzkeu] Dietrich zu Groitzsch, Bp of Merseburg (1204-15), legitimized 1203, +1215

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Plausible birthdate.

ID 12550: 12550 Konrad yr=1150 - 0
Father: 12938 Dedo yr=1125 - 1190
Mother: 12939 Mathilde yr=1134 - 1189 von Heinsberg
Marriage: 21563 Elzbieta yr=1152 - 0 Piast
Siblings: 12551 Dietrich yr=1149 - 0; 12552 Philipp yr=1155 - 0; 12553 Heinrich yr=1157 - 0; 12554 Goswin yr=1158 - 0; 12937 Agnes yr=1152 - 1195
Children: 12555 Konrad yr=1183 - 0; 12556 Mathilde yr=1186 - 0

F9. Dedo V "der Feiste" von Rochlitz, zu Burg Groitzsch 1144, Gf von Groitzsch u.Hr zu Rochlitz 1156, Mkgf der Niederlausitz u.Gf von Eilenburg 1185, +16.8.1190, bur Kl Zschillen; m.by 1159 Matilde von Heinsberg, heiress of Sommerschenburg (+20.1.1189)
* G1. Dietrich, Gf von Sommerschenburg und Groitzsch, +13.6.1207, bur Zschillen; m.by 1190 Jutta of Thuringia (+1208)
* G2. Philipp, a canon in Xanten, +by 1190
* G3. Konrad II von Landsberg, Mkgf der Niederlausitz u.Gf von Eilenburg 1190, Gf von Groitzsch u.Sommerschenburg 1207, +6.5.1210, bur Zschillen; m.Elzbieta of Poland (*1152 +2.4.1209)
o H1. Konrad, +by 6.5.1210
o H2. Matilde, +Salzwedel 1255, bur Kl Lehnin; m.VIII.1205 Mkgf Albrecht II von Brandenburg (+25.2.1220)
o H3. Agnes, +1.1.1248, bur Wienhausen; m.1211 Heinrich I von Braunschweig, Pfgf der Rhein (*ca 1173, +28.4.1227)
* G4. Heinrich, fl 1159-74
* G5. Goswin, fl 1159-74
* G6. Agnes, +25.3.1195, bur Diessen; m.by 1180 Gf Bertold IV von Andechs, Hg von Meranien, Mgve of Istria (+12.8.1204)

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Agian, all I can say is that it is plausible.

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Solution: Both Konrads (ID=12049 and ID=12550) stay as they are. They are cousins.
DC_1187_5
Mstislav Rurikovich
ID 22522: Mstislav yr=1130 - 1170
Father: 22525 Izyaslav yr=1097 - 1154
Mother: None
Marriage: 21514 Agnieszka yr=1137 - 1182 Piast
Siblings: 22622 Yaroslav yr=1132 - 1180; 22826 Yevdokia yr=1136 - 0
Children: 22520 Roman yr=1149 - 0; 22524 Vsyevolod yr=1153 - 0; 22530 Svyatoslav yr=1155 - 0 (Mother 22523 doesn't exist. Fixed before); 22531 Vladimir yr=1152 - 1173 (Mother 22523 doesn't exist. Fixed before)

ID 22722: Mstislav yr=1130 - 1178
Father: 22675 Rostislav yr=1109 - 1151
Mother: None
Marriage: None
Siblings: 22730 Yaropolk yr=1132 - 0
Children: 22720 Svyatoslav yr=1176 - 0

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http://genealogy.euweb.cz/russia/rurik8.html

# C1. [1m.] Rostislav, Pr of Novgorod (1138-39), Pr of Pereyaslav (1149-51), +6.4.1151; m.NN (+after 1176)
* D1. Mstislav "Bezokiy" "the Eyeless", Pr of Novgorod (1160-61), Pr of Rostov-Suzdal (1175-76), +20.4.1178; 1m: a Smolensk noblewoman; 2m: 1175/76 N, a dau.of Yakun Mstislavich, boyar of Novgorod
o E1. Svyatoslav, Pr of Novgorod (1175-76)
* D2. Yaropolk, Pr of Vladimir (1175-76), Pr of Torzhok (1177-78), +after 1196; m.Polotsk 3.2.1174 N of Vitebsk
* D3. Euphrosyne, +1179; m.Gleb Rostislavich of Riazan (+31.7.1178)

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D1 is ID 22722 Mstislav. He fits OK. No birthdates, but those are not important anyway.

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/russia/rurik9.html

Izyaslav, Pr of Kursk (1125-29), Pr of Polotsk (1129-32), Pr of Turov (1132-34), Pr of Volynia (1135-42), Pr of Pereyaslav (1142-46), Great Pr of Kiev (1146-49)+(1150)+(1151-54), *Novgorod 1096, +Kiev 13.11.1154; 1m: apparently a Staufen princess (+1151); 2m: 1154 N (Rusudan?) of Georgia; all children from 1m.:
* A1. Mstislav II, Pr of Pereyaslav (1146-49)+(1151-55), Pr of Lutzk (1155-57), Pr of Volynya (1157-70), Great Pr of Kiev (V.1167-XII.1169)+(II.1170-IV.1170), +19.8.1170; m.1151/52 Agnieszka of Poland (*1137 +after 1181)
o B1. Roman "the Great", Pr of Novgorod (1168-70), Pr of Volynia (1173-87)+(1188-1205), Pr of Galicia (1187-88)+(1199-1205), Grand Pr of Kiev (1203-05), *ca 1205, +murdered nr Zavikhvost 19.6.1205; 1m: bef 1184 (div 1198) Predislava Ryurikovna of Smolensk (+after 1204); 2m: ca 1200 a Byzantine noblewoman (+after 1219)
o B2. Svyatoslav, Pr of Brest, +1172/83
o B3. Vsevolod, Pr of Belz (1170-95), Pr of Volynia (1187-88), +IV.1195
* A2. Yaroslav, Pr of Novgorod (1148-54), Pr of Lutsk (1154-80), Grand Pr of Kiev (XII.1173-VI.1174), +1180; he was possibly married to a Przemyslid princess
* A4. a daughter, fl 1143; m.1143/44 Pr Rogvolod II of Polotsk (+7.5.1171)
* A5. Eudoxia; m.1151/54 Pr Mieszko III of Great Poland (*1126/7, +13.3.1202)

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A1 is ID 22522 Mstislav. Birthdates are missing, but more importantly two Mstislavs are two different persons as they are in the game.
SOLUTION: Everything stays as it is.
DC_1187_6
Vsyevolod Rurikovich
ID 22524: Vsyevolod yr=1153 - 0
Father: 22522 Mstislav yr=1130 - 1170
Mother: 21514 Agnieszka yr=1137 - 1182 Piast
Marriage: None
Siblings: 22520 Roman yr=1149 - 0; 22530 Svyatoslav yr=1155 - 0 (Mother 22523 doesn't exist. Fixed before); 22531 Vladimir yr=1152 - 1173 (Mother 22523 doesn't exist. Fixed before)
Children: None

ID 22640: Vsyevolod yr=1153 - 0
Father: 22632 Svyatoslav yr=1097 - 1164
Mother: 22633 Maria yr=1110 - 1170 Petrilovna
Marriage: 22641 Olga yr=1153 - 0 Rurikovich
Siblings: 22630 Igor yr=1151 - 0 (no mother)
Children: None

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# A1. Mstislav II, Pr of Pereyaslav (1146-49)+(1151-55), Pr of Lutzk (1155-57), Pr of Volynya (1157-70), Great Pr of Kiev (V.1167-XII.1169)+(II.1170-IV.1170), +19.8.1170; m.1151/52 Agnieszka of Poland (*1137 +after 1181)
* B1. Roman "the Great", Pr of Novgorod (1168-70), Pr of Volynia (1173-87)+(1188-1205), Pr of Galicia (1187-88)+(1199-1205), Grand Pr of Kiev (1203-05), *ca 1205, +murdered nr Zavikhvost 19.6.1205; 1m: bef 1184 (div 1198) Predislava Ryurikovna of Smolensk (+after 1204); 2m: ca 1200 a Byzantine noblewoman (+after 1219)

* B2. Svyatoslav, Pr of Brest, +1172/83
* B3. Vsevolod, Pr of Belz (1170-95), Pr of Volynia (1187-88), +IV.1195

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B3 is ID 22524 Vsyevolod.

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/russia/rurik5.html

# B3. [1m.] Svyatoslav, Pr of Chernigov (1157-64), +14.2.1164; m.Maria Petrilovna OR N, a Kuman woman, dau.of Aepo Girgenevich
* C1. Oleg, Pr of Seversk, +I.1180; 1m: 1150 Maria of Kiev (+by 1165); 2m: 1163 Agafia, a dau.of Rostislav of Smolensk
* C2. Igor, Pr of Seversk (1179-98), Pr of Chernigov (1198-1202), *3.4.1151, +29.12.1202; 1m: 1169 NN; 2m: 1184 Eufrosinia, dau.of Yaroslav Osmomysl of Galitzia; all children from 1m.
* C3. Vsevolod, Pr of Kursk, *ca 1153, +1196; m.Olga Glebovna, dau.of Pr Gleb of Pereyaslav
* C4. a daughter, +after 1170; m.Pr Vladimir of Volynia (+28.1.1170)

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C3 is ID 22640 Vsyevolod. Even dates are OK.

Solution: Two different persons. There is a birthdate for ID 22640 Vsyevolod and it is exactly as in the game. Birthdate od the other is a mystery so everything stays the same as before.
DC_1187_7
Yaroslav Rurikovich
ID 22590: Yaroslav
Father: 22592 Vladimir yr=1132 - 1171
Mother: None
Marriage: None
Siblings: None
Children: None
Grandfather: 22574 Mstislav yr=1076 - 1132
Grandmother: 22576 Liubava yr=1100 - 1168

ID 22746: Yaroslav
Father: 22742 Gleb yr=1120 - 1178
Mother: None
Marriage: None
Siblings: 22740 Igor yr=1150 - 0; 22745 Roman yr=1145 - 0; 22747 Vladimir yr=1165 - 0; 22748 Vsyevolod yr=1167 - 0; 22760 Svyatoslav yr=1168 - 0
Children: None

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# B1. [1m.] Mstislav II (Harald) "the Great", Pr of Novgorod (1088-1117), Pr of Pereyaslavl (1117-25), Great Pr of Kiev (1125-32), *1.6.1076, +15.4.1132; 1m: 1095/96 Christine of Sweden (+18.1.1122); 2m: 1122 Liubava (+after 1168), a dau.of Dmitriy Zavidich, Stadtholder of Novgorod
* C1. [1m.] Ingeborg; m.1116-18 Knut III Lavand, King of South Jutland (*12.3.1091, +k.a. 7.1.1131)
* C2. [1m.] Malfrida, +after 1137; 1m: 1116/18 (div 1128) King Sigurd I of Norway (+26.3.1130); 2m: 1130-32 King Erik II of Denmark (+18.9.1137)
* C3. [1m.] Eupraxia, +1136; m.1122 Emperor Alexios of Byzantium (*1106 +1142)
* C4. [1m.] Vsevolod, Pr of Novgorod (1117-36), Pr of Pskov (1137-38), after his death he was proclaimed Patron Saint of Pskov, +Pskov 11.2.1138; m.1123 N, a dau.of Pr Sviatoslav of Chernigov (+after 1136)
* C5. Izyaslav II, Pr of Kursk (1125-29), Pr of Polotsk (1129-32), Pr of Turov (1132-34), Pr of Volynia (1135-42), Pr of Pereyaslav (1142-46), Great Pr of Kiev (1146-49)+(1150)+(1151-54), *Novgorod 1096, +Kiev 13.11.1154; 1m: apparently a Staufen princess (+1151); 2m: 1154 N (Rusudan?) of Georgia; all children from 1m.; for his descendants see HERE
* C6. Sviatopolk, Pr of Pskov (1138-40), Pr of Novgorod (1142-48), Pr of Volynia (1148-54), +1154; m.btw 13.12.1143/6.1.1144 Euphemia of Moravia (*1115, +after 1144)
* C7. [1m.] Rostislav, Pr of Smolensk (1127-59), Great Pr of Kiev (1159)+(1160-67), *ca 1110, +Zaruba 14.3.1168, bur Kiev; for his descendants see HERE
* C8. Rogneda, +after 1175; m.12.5.1112 (div 1118) Pr Yaroslav of Volynya (+1123)
* C9. [1m.] Maria, +winter 1179; m.1116/25 Vsevolod II of Kiev (+1.8.1146)
* C10. Xenia, +after 1129; m.1124/25 Bryachislav of Izyaslawl (+after 1129)
* C11. [2m.] Euphrosyne, *1130, +1186-93; m.1146 King Géza II of Hungary (*ca 1130, +3/31.5.1162)
* C12. [2m.] Vladimir, Pr of Dorogobuzh (1152-4)+(1170-1), Pr of Volynia (1154-58), Grand Pr of Kiev (III.1167-V.1167)+(II.1171-V.1171), +30.5.1171; m.1150/1 N, a dau.of ban Bjelos of Slovenia and cousin of king Geza II of Hungary [her mother is A6, page 'balkan4.html']
o D1. Rostislav, Pr of Kanev (1163-69), Pr of Tripolye (1191-1201)
o D2. Mstislav, Pr of Kanev (1194-1203); m.N, a dau.of Svyatoslav III of Kiev
o D3. Yaroslav, Pr of Novgorod (1182-99), Pr of Vyshgorod (1199-1205), +aft 1207; m.Helene of Ossetia (+25.12.1202), sister-in-law of Vsevolod III
o D4. Svyatoslav, +k.a.Halicz 24.3.1221

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D3 is ID 22590 Yaroslav. No birthdates. No other siblings in game...

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/russia/rurik5.html

C2. Gleb, Pr of Riazanj (1145-78), +30.6.1178; m.Euphrosyne of Pereyaslavl (+1179)
* D1. Yaroslav; m.1199 Vseslava, dau.of Great Pr Rurik of Kiev
* D2. Roman, fl 1207; m.N, a dau.of Svyatoslav of Chernigov
* D3. Igor, Pr of Riazanj (1180), +1195; m.Agrafena Rostislavna (+murdered 1237)
* D4. Vladimir, fl 1185
* D5. Vsevolod, Pr of Pronsk, +after 1207
* D6. Svyatoslav, Pr of Pronsk (1186-87), +ca 1213

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D1 is ID 22746 Yaroslav. No birthdates.

SOLUTION: Everything stays the same.
DC_1187_8
Svyatoslav Rurikovich
ID 22638: Svyatoslav yr=1176 - 0
Father: 22630 Igor yr=1151 - 0
Mother: 22631 Eufrosinia yr=1152 - 0 Rurikovich
Marriage: None
Siblings: 22635 Vladimir yr=1170 - 0; 22636 Oleg yr=1174 - 0; 22637 Roman yr=1175 - 0; 22639 Rostislav yr=1178 - 0
Children: None

ID 22720: Svyatoslav yr=1176 - 0
Father: 22722 Mstislav yr=1130 - 1178
Mother: None
Marriage: None
Siblings: None
Children: None
Grandfather: 22675 Rostislav yr=1109 - 1151

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C2. Igor, Pr of Seversk (1179-98), Pr of Chernigov (1198-1202), *3.4.1151, +29.12.1202; 1m: 1169 NN; 2m: 1184 Eufrosinia, dau.of Yaroslav Osmomysl of Galitzia; all children from 1m.
* D1. Vladimir, Pr of Putivl (1185-98)+(1207-08), Pr of Novgorod-Severskiy (1198-1208), Pr of Galitzk (1206-07)+(1208-11), *1170, +1212; m.1188 Svoboda, dau.of Konchak, Khan of Kumans
* D2. Oleg, *1174
* D3. Roman, Pr of Putivl (1198-1206), Pr of Zvenigorod (1206-07)+(1208-11), Pr of Galitzk (1207), *1175, +1211
* D4. Svyatoslav, Pr of Kursk (?-1206), Pr of Volynya (1206-07), Pr of Peremyshl (1210-11), *1176, +1211; m.1188 Yaroslava, dau.of Great Pr Rurik of Kiev

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D4 is ID 22638 Svyatoslav. Birthdate checks.

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/russia/rurik8.html

C1. [1m.] Rostislav, Pr of Novgorod (1138-39), Pr of Pereyaslav (1149-51), +6.4.1151; m.NN (+after 1176)
* D1. Mstislav "Bezokiy" "the Eyeless", Pr of Novgorod (1160-61), Pr of Rostov-Suzdal (1175-76), +20.4.1178; 1m: a Smolensk noblewoman; 2m: 1175/76 N, a dau.of Yakun Mstislavich, boyar of Novgorod
o E1. Svyatoslav, Pr of Novgorod (1175-76)

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E1 is ID 22720 Svyatoslav. He was a 'Pr of Novgorod (1175-76)' so his birthdate must be earlier than 1176.

SOLUTION: Change birthdate of ID 22720 Svyatoslav to 1175.
DC_1187_9
Gleb Rurikovich
ID 22702: Gleb yr=1120 - 1171
Father: 22672 Yuri yr=1090 - 1157
Mother: 22673 Anna yr=1092 - 1124 Rurikovich
Marriage: None
Siblings: 22670 Vsyevolod yr=1154 - 0 (with mother 22674 Elena Komnenos); 22675 Rostislav yr=1109- 1151; 22676 Andrei yr=1111 - 1174; 22678 Boris yr=1113 - 1159; 22681 Mstislav yr=1133 - 1166 (with mother 22674 Elena Komnenos); 22682 Mikhail yr=1134 - 1176 (with mother 22674 Elena Komnenos)
Children: 22700 Vladimir yr=1158 - 0

ID 22742: Gleb yr=1120 - 1178
Father: 22744 Rostislav yr=1100 - 1155
Mother: None
Marriage: None
Siblings: None
Children: 22740 Igor yr=1150 - 0; 22745 Roman yr=1145 - 0; 22746 Yaroslav yr=1160- 0; 22747 Vladimir yr=1165 - 0; 22748 Vsyevolod yr=1167 - 0; 22760 Svyatoslav yr=1168 - 0

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http://genealogy.euweb.cz/russia/rurik8.html

B8. [2m.] Yuriy "Dologoruky" "Long arms", Pr of Rostov and Suzdal (1108-55) settled in Suzdal, Great Pr of Kiev (IX.1149-IV.1151)+(III.1155-V.1157), Founder of Moscow, *ca 1100, +Kiev 15.4.1157, bur Berestovo nr Kiev; 1m: ca 12.1.1108 N, dau.of Aepa Khan of the Kumans; 2m: ca 1152 possibly Helene of Byzantium (+1183)
* C1. [1m.] Rostislav, Pr of Novgorod (1138-39), Pr of Pereyaslav (1149-51), +6.4.1151; m.NN (+after 1176)
* C2. Ivan, Pr of Kursk (1146-47), +24.2.1147
* C3. Andrei "Bogolyubsky" "the Pious", Pr of Rostov-Suzdal (1155-69), 1st Grand Pr of Vladimir-Suzdal (1169-75), settled in Vladimir from 1162, *1111, +assassinated Bogolyubovo Castle 29.6.1174, bur Assumption Cathedral in Vladimir
* C4. Olga, +Vladimir 14.7.1181; m.1150 (div 1171) Yaroslav I of Galicia (+1.10.1187)
* C5. Maria, +by 1165; m.1150 Oleg Svyatoslavich of Novgorod-Seversky (+I.1180)
* C6. Gleb, Pr of Pereyaslavl (1154-69), Pr of Kiev (III.1169-II.1170)+(IV.1170-I.1171), +Kiev 20.1.1171; 1m: NN (+1154); 2m: 1155 N, a dau.of Izyaslav III of Kiev; all kids by 2m.
o D1. Vladimir, Pr of Pereyaslav (1169-87), *1157, +18.4.1187; m.8.11.1179 Zabava Yaroslavna of Chernigov
o D2. Izyaslav, +k.a.Bulgar-on-the-Volga 1183
o D3. Maria; m.Vsevolod of Kursk and Trubchevsk (+V.1196)
* C7. Boris, Pr of Belgorod (1149-51), Pr of Turov (1154-57), +Suzdal 2.5.1159
* C8. Mstislav, Pr of Novgorod (1154-57), +aft 1157; m.1155 a Novgorod noblewoman, dau.of boyar Piotr Mikhalkovich
* C9. Vasilko, Pr of Rostov-Suzdal (1149-51), he was exiled to Byzantium in 1161
* C10. Yaroslav, +12.4.1166
* C11. Sviatoslav, +11.1.1174
* C12. [2m.] Mikhail, Pr of Rostov-Suzdal (1154-55), 2nd Grand Pr of Vladimir-Suzdal (1175-76), *1151, +20.6.1176; m.Fevronia N (+5.8.1202)
* C13. [2m.] Vsevolod III "Balshoe Gniezdo" "the Great Nest", Grand Pr of Kiev (II.1173-III.1173), 3d Grand Pr of Vladimir (1176-1212), *1154, +15.4.1212, bur Assumption Cathedral, Vladimir; 1m: Tbilisi 1170/72 St.Maria of Ossetia (+Vladimir 19.3.1206); 2m: 1209 Lyubov of Vitebsk (+after 1212); all kids by 1m.

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C6 is ID 22702 Gleb.

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/russia/rurik5.html

B5. Rostislav, Pr of Riazanj (1143-45) , Pr of Murom (1145-55), +ca 1155
* C1. Andrey, fl 1147
* C2. Gleb, Pr of Riazanj (1145-78), +30.6.1178; m.Euphrosyne of Pereyaslavl (+1179)
o D1. Yaroslav; m.1199 Vseslava, dau.of Great Pr Rurik of Kiev
o D2. Roman, fl 1207; m.N, a dau.of Svyatoslav of Chernigov
o D3. Igor, Pr of Riazanj (1180), +1195; m.Agrafena Rostislavna (+murdered 1237)
o D4. Vladimir, fl 1185
o D5. Vsevolod, Pr of Pronsk, +after 1207
o D6. Svyatoslav, Pr of Pronsk (1186-87), +ca 1213

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C2 is 22742 Gleb. No birthdate...

SOLUTION: No reliable birthdates, so they stay as they are.
DC_1187_10
Rostislav Rurikovich
ID 22744: Rostislav yr=1100 - 1155
Father: 22756 Yaroslav yr=1077 - 1130
Mother: None
Marriage: None
Siblings: 22757 Svyatoslav yr=1098 - 1145
Children: 22742 Gleb yr=1120 - 1178

ID 22795: Rostislav yr=1100 - 1165
Father: 22794 Gleb yr=1075 - 1119
Mother: None
Marriage: 22796 Sofia yr=1111 - 1158 Rurikovich
Siblings: 22792 Volodar yr=1105 - 1167
Children: 22798 Gleb yr=1135 - 1159; 22799 Svyatoslav yr=1140 - 1196

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http://genealogy.euweb.cz/russia/rurik5.html

A5. Yaroslav, Pr of Murom (1097-1129), Pr of Riazanj (1097-1123)+(1127-30), Pr of Chernigov (1123-27), +1130; m.NN
* B1. Yuriy, Pr of Murom (1129-43), +1143
* B2. Svyatoslav, Pr of Riazanj (1129-43), Pr of Murom (1143-45), +1145
* B3. Davyd, +1147
* B4. Igor, fl 1147
* B5. Rostislav, Pr of Riazanj (1143-45) , Pr of Murom (1145-55), +ca 1155
o C1. Andrey, fl 1147
o C2. Gleb, Pr of Riazanj (1145-78), +30.6.1178; m.Euphrosyne of Pereyaslavl (+1179)

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B5 is ID 22744 Rostislav. No birthdates.

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/russia/rurik2.html

# C2. Gleb, 1st Pr of Minsk (1101-19), Pr of Polotsk (1116-19), +in prison Kiev 1119; m.1090 Anastasia of Turov and Lutsk (*1074, +I.1158)
* D1. Izyaslav, +1134
* D2. Rostislav, Pr of Polotsk (1151-59), Pr of Minsk (1146-51)+(1159-1165); m.Sofia of Turov and Lutsk (*1111 +1158)
o E1. Gleb, Pr of Drutsk (1151-58)
o E2. Svyatoslav, +1196
* D3. Volodar, Pr of Minsk (1151-58)+(1165-67), Pr of Hrodno (1159-65); m.btw 1136-39 Richeza of Poland (+after 25.12.1155)
* D4. Vsevolod, Pr of Izyaslavl and Strejev, fl 1159

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D2 is ID 22795 Rostislav. No birthdates.

SOLUTION: Two different characters with uncertain birthdates; so they stay as thy are in the game.
DC_1187_11
Vladimir Rurikovich
DC_1187_11 Vladimir 22747 22770 Rurikovich did=705 yr=1165

ID 22747: Vladimir yr=1165 - 0
Father: 22742 Gleb yr=1120 - 1178
Mother: None
Marriage: None
Siblings: 22740 Igor yr=1150 - 0; 22745 Roman yr=1145 - 0; 22746 Yaroslav yr=1160 - 0; 22748 Vsyevolod yr=1167 - 0; 22760 Svyatoslav yr=1168 - 0
Children: 22755 Gleb yr=1185 - 0

ID 22770: Vladimir yr=1165 - 0
Father: 22772 Yuri yr=1145 - 1174
Mother: None
Marriage: None
Siblings: 22775 Davyd yr=1170 - 0
Children: None

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http://genealogy.euweb.cz/russia/rurik5.html

C2. Gleb, Pr of Riazanj (1145-78), +30.6.1178; m.Euphrosyne of Pereyaslavl (+1179)
D1. Yaroslav; m.1199 Vseslava, dau.of Great Pr Rurik of Kiev
D2. Roman, fl 1207; m.N, a dau.of Svyatoslav of Chernigov
D3. Igor, Pr of Riazanj (1180), +1195; m.Agrafena Rostislavna (+murdered 1237)
D4. Vladimir, fl 1185
E1. Gleb, fl 1219; m.N, a dau.of Davyd of Smolensk
E2. Izyaslav, Pr of Pronsk (1207), +murdered 20.7.1217
E3. Oleg, Pr of Pronsk (1207-08), +1208
E4. Konstantin, fl 1217
D5. Vsevolod, Pr of Pronsk, +after 1207
D6. Svyatoslav, Pr of Pronsk (1186-87), +ca 1213

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D4 is 22747 Vladimir. No dates.

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/russia/rurik5.html

D1. Yuriy, Pr of Murom (1162-74), +1174
E1. Vladimir, Pr of Murom (1174-1205), +18.12.1205
E2. Davyd, Pr of Murom (1205-28), Pr of Pronsk (1208); m.Fevronia N
E3. Yuriy, fl 1220

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E1 is 22770 Vladimir. Not enough dates, but it proves that two Vladimirs are not duplicates.
SOLUTION: Leave them as they are.

unmerged(11427) · Apr 22, 2006

MC solutions for 1337 scenario (Part 1)

MC_1337_1
Omelia della Scala
Father: 12070 Alboino yr=1284 - 1311
Mother: 12085 Beatrice yr=1290 - 1320 della Scala
Marriage: 63160 Paolo Pico yr=1300 - 0 da Verona
Siblings: 12072 Alboino yr=1306 - 0 (mother 12071 Caterina); 12078 Mastino yr=1308 - 0 (mother 12071 Caterina); 12084 Verde yr=1308 - 0 (mother 12071 Caterina)
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/italy/scalla2.html

Alboino I, Lord of Verona and Vicenza (1304-11), +Verona 28.10.1311; 1m: 1298 Caterina Visconti; 2m: 1.1.1306 Beatrice da Corregio, dau.of Giberto Lord of Parma and Corregio by Elena from Marquess Malaspina (+after 1311)
* A1. Alboino II, Lord of Verona and Vicenza associated to his brother (1329-52), Lord of Padova (1329-38), *1306, +Verona 3.9.1352; m.1312 Agnes, illegitimate dau.of Gf Heinrich II von Görz
* A2. Mastino II, Lord of Verona and Vicenza (1329-51), Lord of Padova (1328-38), Lord of Parma (1332-41), Lord of Brescia (1332-37), Lord of Lucca (1335-47), *1308, +Verona 3.6.1351; m.1328 Taddea da Carrara, dau.of Jacopo I Lord of Padova by Elisabetta Gradenigo Patrizia di Venezia (+1375)
* A3. [1m.] Verde, +1340; 1m: 1316 Rizzardo VII da Camino Lord of Belluno (+1335); 2m: 1340 Ugolino Gonzaga ereditary Lord of Mantova (+killed, Mantova 14.10.1362)
* A4. [2m.] Omelia; m.Paolo Pico Podeste di Verona (+Verona 1355)
* A5. Alboina, *1309, +8.2.1375, a nun

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Deathdate of the father is solid. Omelia's birthdate is uncertain. More is wrong: A1 and A2 are probaly children of 12085 Betarice (see marriage 2m: 1.1.1306. in quote). Dates of marriages (for 12070 Alboino) ingame are not OK with the quote.

I don't want to mess something up. I'll leave it unsolved.
MC_1337_2
Helvig of Denmark
Father: 51529 Erik yr=1288 - 1315
Mother: 51946 Adelheid yr=1295 - 1350 von Rendsburg
Marriage: None
Siblings: 51530 Valdemar yr=1314 - 1364
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/denmark/denmark3.html

# E1. Duke Erich II of Schleswig, +1325; m.1313 Adelheid von Holstein (+1349/50)
* F1. Duke Waldemar V of Schleswig, anti-King of Denmark (1326-29), *1315, +1364; m.Richardis von Schwerin (+1384)
* F2. Heilwig, +1374; m.shortly before 4.6.1340 King Waldemar IV of Denmark (+1375)

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No birthdate for Heilwig, but the deathdate of Erich is 1325 (not 1315).

Solution: Change deathdate of 51529 Erik to 1325.
MC_1337_3
Otto Gryfita
Father: 51953 Barnim yr=1219 - 1278
Mother: None
Marriage: 51976 Katharina yr=1276 - 1300 von Holstein
Siblings: 71660 Bogislaw yr=1255 - 1309; 71662 Anastazja yr=1245 - 1317
Children: 51951 Matilde yr=1298 - 1332; 51952 Barnim yr=1300 - 0

Nothing found.
MC_1337_4
Johan von Holstein
Father: 51972 Gerhard yr=1252 - 1312
Mother: 50507 Ingeborg Valdemarsdotter yr=1263 - 1292 till Bjälbo
Marriage: 51962 Miroslawa yr=1300 - 0 von Brandenburg
Siblings: 51973 Gerhard yr=1315 - 1323 (with mother 51971 Agnes yr=1273 - 1304 von Brandenburg); 51976 Katharina yr=1276 - 1300
Children: 51963 Adolf yr=1328 - 0; 51964 Mechtild yr=1320 - 0 (with mother 51961 Katharina yr=1300- 1326 von Glogau); 51965 Elisabeth yr=1321 - 0 (with mother 51961 Katharina yr=1300- 1326 von Glogau); 51966 Agnes yr=1330 - 0

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/holstein/holstein1.html

# E2. Gf Gerhard II von Holstein-Plön, *1254, +1312; 1m: 1275 Ingeburg of Sweden (+ca 1290); 2m: 1293 Agnes (+1304), dau.of Mgve Johann von Brandenburg
* F1. Gf Gerhard IV von Holstein-Plön (1312-23), +ca 1323; m.1313 Anastasia von Wittenberg
* F2. Waldemar, +1308
* F3. Gf Johann III von Holstein-Plön (1350-59), *ca 1297, +1359; 1m: 1319 Katharina of Glogau; 2m: 1327 Mirizlawa von Wittenberg (+after 1368)
o G1. Gf Adolf VII von Holstein-Plön (1359-90), +1390; m.1362 Anna, dau.of Duke Albrecht I von Mecklenburg
o G2. Mechtild; m.1340 Nikolaus III von Werle-Güstrow
o G3. Elisabeth; m.1341 Bernhard II von Werle-Waren
o G4. Miroslawa; m.Duke Otto of Brunswick-Göttingen
o G5. Agnes, +ca 1387; m.before 1349 Duke Erich II of Saxe-Lauenburg (+1368)
* F4. Katharina, +before 23.5.1300; m.1296 Otto I of Pomerania-Stettin (+1344)

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F3 is our 51960 Johan. If we believe the dates (why shouldn't we?), it becomes clear that 51960 Johan's mother is not 50507 Ingeborg, but 51971 Agnes. Johan's father married 51971 Agnes in 1293.

Solution: Change mother of 51960 Johan to 51971 Agnes.
MC_1337_5
Gerhard von Holstein
Solved with MC_1337_6 (below).
MC_1337_6
Gerhard von Holstein
Father: 51972 Gerhard yr=1252 - 1312
Mother: 51971 Agnes yr=1273 - 1304 von Brandenburg
Marriage: None
Siblings: 51960 Johan (MC_1337_4 above); 51976 Katharina yr=1276 - 1300
Children: 51970 Gerhard yr=1315 - 0 (mother 51974 Anastasia yr=1298 - 1336 von Wittenberg); 62911 Ingeborg yr=1316 - 0 (mother 51974 Anastasia yr=1298 - 1336 von Wittenberg)

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/holstein/holstein1.html

# E2. Gf Gerhard II von Holstein-Plön, *1254, +1312; 1m: 1275 Ingeburg of Sweden (+ca 1290); 2m: 1293 Agnes (+1304), dau.of Mgve Johann von Brandenburg
* F1. Gf Gerhard IV von Holstein-Plön (1312-23), +ca 1323; m.1313 Anastasia von Wittenberg
o G1. Gf Gerhard V von Holstein-Plön (1323-50), *ca 1315, +1350
o G2. Ingeborg; m.Gf Conrad of Oldenburg
* F2. Waldemar, +1308
* F3. Gf Johann III von Holstein-Plön (1350-59), *ca 1297, +1359; 1m: 1319 Katharina of Glogau; 2m: 1327 Mirizlawa von Wittenberg (+after 1368)
* F4. Katharina, +before 23.5.1300; m.1296 Otto I of Pomerania-Stettin (+1344)

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F1 is our 51973 Gerhard. His birthdate is missing and is clearly wrong ingame. His birthdate got mixed up with that of his son G1 (51970 Gerhard).
http://users.legacyfamilytree.com/uspresidents/4832.htm

Gerhard IV von Holstein-Segeberg
* Birth: Before 1300
* Death: 1323

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Solution: Change birthdate of 51973 Gerhard to 1298.
MC_1337_7
Catherine de Beaumont
Father: 53005 Henry yr=1263 - 0
Mother: 53043 Alice Comyn yr=1308 - 0 NAMELESS
Marriage: 53041 David yr=1308 - 1335 Strathbogie
Siblings: 53046 John yr=1318 - 0; 53047 Richard yr=1320 - 0; 53048 Thomas yr=1320 - 0; 53049 Alice yr=1325 - 0; 53050 Joan yr=1329 - 0; 53051 Beatrice yr=1331 - 0; 54528 Isabel yr=1315 - 0
Children: 53008 David yr=1332 - 0

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brienne/brienne2.html

# A3. Henry de Beaumont, Lord Beaumont, Earl of Buchan, Justicair of Scotland, +shortly before 10.3.1340; m.before 14.3.1310 Alice, dau.of Alexander Comyn and niece of John Comyn, Earl of Buchan
* B1. John, 2d Lord Beaumont, *1317/18, +V.1342; m.before VI.1337 Eleanor Plantagenet, Lady of Lancaster (*IX.1311/12, +11.1.1372)
* B2. Richard Beaumont
* B3. John Beaumont
* B4. Thomas Beaumont
* B5. Elizabeth Beaumont, +27.10.1400; m.ca 1330 Nicholas, Lord Audley
* B6. Catherine, +11.11.1368; m.David Strathbogie III, Earl of Athol (+1335)
* B7. Isabel Beaumont, *ca 1315, +after 24.3.1356; 1m: ca 1334 Henry Plantagenet, Earl of Lancaster, Leicester and Derby (+24.3.1361)
* B8. Agnes Beaumont, +after 1359; m.ca VII.1343 Thomas, Lord Lucy (+1365)
* B9. Joan Beaumont; m.Sir William Fitzwarin (+25.7.1349)

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B6 is 53042 Catherine. Judging from the marriage of her parents, it seems that her mother's birthdate is wrong.
http://www.aemyers.net/genealogy/d0023/g0000004.html

Alice COMYN
* BIRTH: CA. 1291
* DEATH: [before Aug. 10, 1349]
Father: Alexander COMYN
Family 1 : Henry Beaumont, Earl of BUCHAN
* MARRIAGE: CA. 1310
1. +John BEAUMONT

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I'm going to agree with that birthdate.

Solution: Change birthdate of 53043 Alice Comyn to 1291.
MC_1337_8
Margaret de Burgo de Burgh
Father: 54106 Richard yr=1259 - 1326
Mother: None
Marriage: 54106 Richard yr=1259 - 1326 (married to her father!!!)
Siblings: 53502 Elizabeth yr=1280 - 1327 (with 54108 Margaret de Burgo de Burgh); 54612 John yr=1280 - 1314 (with 54108 Margaret de Burgo de Burgh); 54050 Maud yr=1294 - 0 (with 54108 Margaret de Burgo de Burgh); 54107 Joan yr=1312 -0
Children: See siblings!!!

http://www.gencircles.com/users/dav4is/223/data/12

Richard de Burgh
Birth: About. 1259
Death: 29 Jul 1326 in Athassel Monastery, Tipperary
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Margaret of Guines de Burgh (Wife) b. About. 1264 in Portslade, SSX, ENG
Marriage: BEF. 27 Feb 1279/80 in Lanvalay, Connought, IRL
Children:
1. Aveline de Burgh b. About. 1280 in Dunfermline, FIF, SCT
2. Alianore (Eleanor) de Burgh b. 1282 in Belfast, ANT, IRL
3. Elizabeth (Ellen?) de Burgh b. About. 1284 in Dunfermline, FIF, SCT
4. Walter de Burgh b. About. 1285 in ?, Ulster, IRL
5. John de Burgh , Earl Ulster b. 1286 in ENG
6. Thomas de Burgh b. About. 1288 in ?, Ulster, IRL
7. Katherine de Burgh b. About. 1296
8. Edmund de Burgh , Sir b. About. 1298 in IRL
9. Joan de Burgh , Lady b. About. 1300 in ?, Ulster, IRL
10. Maud (Matilda) de Burgh b. About. 1288 in ?, GLS, ENG

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Solution: 54108 Margaret de Burgo loses a reference to father. I will also shorthen her name from "Margaret de Burgo" to "Margaret".
MC_1337_9
Maurice FitzGerald
Father: 54121 Thomas yr=1295 - 1328
Mother: 54107 Joan yr=1312 - 0 de Burgh
Marriage: None
Siblings: None
Children: None

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jamesdow/s039/f376439.htm

Joan (de) BURGH
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Born: Ulster abt. 1300 Died: 1359 Eire

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This birthdate suits me fine.

Solution: Change birthdate of mother 54107 Joan to 1300.
MC_1337_10
Edward Plantagenet
Father: 54520 Edward Longshanks yr=1239 - 1307
Mother: 55527 Marguerite yr=1275 - 1317 de Capet
Marriage: 55525 Isabella yr=1292 - 0 de Capet
Siblings: 54605 Joan yr=1272 - 1307 (no mother); 54511 Edmund yr=1301 - 1330; 54516 Elizabeth yr=1282 - 1316 (no mother); 54550 Thomas yr=1300 - 0; 55764 Eleonore yr=1269 - 1297; 87043 Margaret yr=1275 - 1333 (no mother)
Children: 54500 Edward yr=1312 - 0; 54505 Eleanor yr=1318 - 0; 54506 Joan yr=1321 - 0

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/anjou/anjou3.html

# C1. King EDWARD I "Longshanks" of England (1272-1307), *Westminster Palace 17.6.1239, +Burgh on the Sands, nr Carlisle 8.7.1307, bur Westminster Abbey; 1m: Burgos 18.10.1254 Leonor of Castile (*1240/41 +29.11.1290); 2m: Canterbury 8.9.1299 Marguerite de France (*1275/79 +14.2.1317)
* D1. Pr John, *Windsor Castle 13/14.7.1266, +Wallingford 3.8.1271, bur Westminster Abbey
* D2. Pr Henry, *Windsor shotly before 6.5.1268, +Guildford 14-17.10.1274, bur Westminster Abbey
* D3. Alfonso, Earl of Chester, *Bayonne, Gascogny 24.11.1273, +Windsor 19.8.1284, bur Westminster Abbey
* D4. King EDWARD II of England (1307-27), abdicated I.1327, *Caernarvon Castle 25.4.1284, +murdered at Berkeley Castle 21.9.1327, bur Benedictine Abbey, Gloucester, now Gloucester Cathedral; m.Boulogne 25.1.1308 Isabelle de France (*1295 +22.8.1358)
o E1. King EDWARD III of England (1327-77), *Windsor Castle 13.11.1312, +Sheen Palace, Surrey 21.6.1377, bur Westminster Abbey; m.York Minster 24.1.1328 Philippa of Hainault (*24.6.1311 +15.8.1369)
o E2. John, Earl of Cornwall, *Eltham Palace 15.8.1316, +Perth 14.9.1336, bur Westminster Abbey
o E3. Eleanor, *Woodstock 8.6.1318, +Deventer 22.4.1355, bur Deventer Abbey; m.Nijmegen V.1332 Duke Rainald II of Geldern (+12.10.1343)
o E4. Joan, *Tower of London 5.7.1321, +Hertford Castle 7.9.1362, bur Greyfriars Church, Newgate, London; m.Berwick-on-Tweed 17.7.1328 David II Bruce, King of Scots (*5.3.1324 +22.2.1370)
* D5. Thomas, Earl of Norfolk 1312, *Brotherton 1.6.1300, +VIII.1338, bur St.Edmund, Suffolk; 1m: ca 1316 Alice Hayles (+after 8.5.1326), dau.of Sir Roger Hayles; 2m: ca 1328 Mary de Ros (+1362), dau.of Sir Peter of Braose
* D6. Edmund, 1st Earl of Kent, Earl of Arundel, *Woodstock Palace 5.8.1301, +beheaded at Winchester 19.3.1330, bur Westminster Abbey; m.XII.1325 Bss Margaret "of Liddell" Wake (*ca 1299 +29.9.1349)
* D7. a daughter, *and +1255
* D8. Pss Katherine, *before 17.6.1264, +5.9.1264, bur Westminster Abbey
* D9. Pss Joan, *I.1265, +before 7.9.1265, bur Westminster Abbey
* D10. Pss Eleanor, *Windsor 18.6.1269, +Ghent 29.8.1297; m.Bristol 20.9.1293 Cte Henri III de Bar (+1302)
* D11. a daughter, *Palestine after V.1271, +Palestine before IX.1271
* D12. Pss Joan of Acre, *Acre spring 1272, +Clare, Suffolk 7.4.1307, bur Augustinian Priory, Clare; 1m: Westminster Abbey 30.4.1290 Gilbert "the Red" de Clare, Earl of Gloucester and Hertford (*2.9.1243 +7.12.1295); 2m: 1297 Sir Ralph de Monthermer (*by 1290, +5.4.1325)
* D13. Pss Margaret, *Windsor 15.3.1275, +after III.1333, bur Ste.Gudule, Brussels; m.Westminster Abbey 9.7.1290 Duke John II of Brabant (*after 1273 +27.12.1312)
* D14. Pss Berengaria, *Kempton 1.5.1276, +before 27.6.1278
* D15. Pss a daughter, *Westminster and +I.1278
* D16. Pss Mary, a nun 1291, *Woodstock 11/12.3.1279, +Amesbury 29.5.1332, bur Benedictine convent at Amesbury
* D17. Pss Elizabeth, *Rhuddlan Castle, Carnarvon 7.8.1282, +Quendon, Essex 5.5.1316, bur Walden Abbey; 1m: Ipswich 1297 Ct John I of Holland (+1299); 2m: Westminster 14.11.1302 Humphrey VIII de Bohun, Earl of Hereford and Essex (*1276 +16.3.1321)
* D18. Pss Beatrice, *in Aquitaine ca 1286, +young

* D19. Pss Blanche, *1290, +young
* D20. Pss Eleanor, *Winchester 4.5.1306, +Amesbury 1311, bur Beaulieu Abbey
* (D21. [illegitimate by a dau.of the Earl of Kildare] John Walter Fitzroy de Botetourte, +25.11.1324)

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It is clear from the marriage dates of Edward Longshanks that the mother of 54510 Edward is not 55527 Marguerite, but Leonor of Castille. Btw Longshanks had 16 children with Leonor. Since I can't find Leonor in game files:
Solution: Remove reference to mother for 54510 Edward.
MC_1337_11
Isabel de Beaumont
Solved with MC_1337_7.
MC_1337_12
Mary Plantagenet
Father: 54525 Henry yr=1281 - 0
Mother: 54526 Maud of Chaworth yr=1282 - 1317
Marriage: None
Siblings: 54527 Henry yr=1314 - 0; 54530 Blanche yr=1305 - 0; 54531 Maud yr=1310 - 0; 54532 Joan yr=1312 - 0; 54533 Eleonor yr=1317 - 0
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/anjou/anjou3.html

# D2. Henry, 3rd Earl of Lancaster & Leicester, *Grosmont Castle ca 1281, +Leicester 22.9.1348, bur Newark Abbey, Leicester; 1m: before 2.3.1297 Maud de Chaworth (*1282 +after 19.2.1317/22); 2m: after 1322 Alix de Joinville (+after 19.4.1336)
* E1. Henry, 4th Earl & 3rd Duke of Lancaster, Leicester & Derby, *Grosmont Castle ca 1314, +of the plague at Leicester 24.3.1361; m.ca 1334 Isabel de Beaumont (*ca 1315 +after 24.3.1356)
* E2. Blanche, *ca 1305, +1380; m.before 9.10.1316 Thomas, Lord Wake (+1349)
* E3. Maud, *1298/ca 1310, +Campsey Abbey before 5.5.1377, bur Bruisyard Abbey, Suffolk; 1m: ca 1330 William de Burgh, Earl of Ulster (*1312 +6.6.1333); 2m: before 6.7.1345 Ralph de Ufford
* E4. Joan, *ca 1312, +after 6.2.1345/7.7.1349; m.28.2.1326 Lord John de Mowbray (+4.10.1361)
* E5. Isabel, Prioress at Amesbury, *ca 1317, +after 1.2.1347
* E6. [1m.] Eleanor, *Grismond Castle 1311/18, +Arundel Castle 11.1.1372, bur Lewes Priory, Sussex; 1m: before 23.8.1337/II.1337 John, Lord Beaumont (*1318 +V.1342); 2m: Ditton 5.2.1345 Richard Fitzalan, 9th Earl of Arundel (*1313 +24.1.1375)
* E7. Mary, *ca 1321, +1.9.1362; m.Tutbury Castle IX.1334/1341 Henry Percy, 3rd Lord Percy (*1320 +18.6.1368)

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Possible deathdate of 54526 Maud of Chaworth is 1317-1322 which can include the birthdate of 54534 Mary (E7) (1321), so lifespan of 54526 Maud can be expanded. It seems clear that the second wife is not the mother (marriage started in 1322).

Solution: Change deathdate of 54526 Maud of Chaworth to 1321. Change enddate of marriage between 54525 Henry and 54526 Maud of Chaworth to 1321.
MC_1337_13
Blanche de Capet
Father: 55414 Charles yr=1295 - 1327
Mother: 55418 Jeanne yr=1310 - 0 d'Evreux
Marriage: None
Siblings: 55416 Philippe yr=1314 - 1322 (no mother); 55417 Jeanne yr=1315 - 1321 (no mother); 55419 Jeanne yr=1326 - 1327; 55420 Marie yr=1327 - 0
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet5.html

# E3. King CHARLES IV "le Bel" of France (21.2.1322-28) and Navarre (1322-27) =Carlos I, Cte de Champagne at de Brie, Cte de La Marche 1314, *Clermont 1295, +Château du Bois-de-Vincennes 1.2.1327, bur St.Denis; 1m: 1306/07 (div 7.9.1322) Blanche de Bourgogne (*1295 +IV.1326); 2m: Paris 21.9.1322 Marie de Luxembourg (*1305 +26.3.1324) dau.of Emperor Heinrich VII; 3m: Brie Comte Robert 5.7.1325 Jeanne d'Evreux (*1310 +4.3.1370)
* F1. Louis, *Issoudun 1324, +after christening a few days later, bur Montargis
* F2. [1m.] Philippe de la Marche, *ca 5.1.1314, +ca 24.3.1322, bur Abbaye du Pont-aux-Dames, Crécy
* F3. [1m.] Jeanne de la Marche, *1315, +17.5.1321, bur Maubuisson
* F4. [3m.] Jeanne, *ca 11.5.1326, +ca 16.1.1327
* F5. [3m.] Marie, *1327, +Paris 6.10.1341, bur St.Denis
* F6. [3m.] Blanche, Cts de Beaumont, *Châteauneuf nr Orleans 1.4.1327/28, +Orleans 8.2.1392, bur St.Denis; m.18.1.1344 Duc Philippe d'Orleans (*1336 +1375)

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It is possible for a father to die before his child is born as seems to be the case here.

Solution: Everything stays the same.
MC_1337_14
Blanche de Valois
Father: 55512 Charles yr=1270 - 1325
Mother: 55805 Marguerite yr=1273 - 1299 d'Anjou
Marriage: 62614 Charles yr=1316 - 0 Luxembourg
Siblings: 55500 Philippe yr=1293 - 0; 55501 Jeanne yr=1304 - 0 (no mother); 55506 Isabelle yr=1316 - 0 (no mother); 55510 Isabelle yr=1292 - 1309; 55511 Marguerite yr=1295 - 0; 55513 Charles yr=1297 - 0; 61702 Marie yr=1309 - 1328; 61717 Catherine yr=1301 - 0
Children: 55538 Marguerite yr=1335 - 0

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet20.html

Cte Charles de Valois et d'Alençon 1286, de Chartres et du Perche, Emperor of Constantinople 1301, *Vincennes 12.3.1270, +Nogent-le-Roy 16.12.1325, bur Paris; 1m: Corbeil 16.8.1290 Cts Marguerite d'Anjou et de Maine (*1273 +31.12.1299) dau.of King Charles II of Naples; 2m: St.Cloud I.1302 Catherine I de Courtenay, titular Empress of Constantinople and Mgvne of Namur (*1274 +2.1.1308); 3m: Poitiers VI.1308 Mahaut de Chatillon, Cts de St.Pol (*1293 +3.10.1358, bur Paris) dau.of Guy III de Chatillon, Cte de St.Pol. He had issue:
* A1. [1m.] King PHILIPPE VI "le Pious" of France (1328-50), cr 29.5.1328, Cte d'Alençon 1293, Cte du Maine 1315, Cte de Valois 1326, *1293, +Nogent le Rotrou 22.8.1350, bur St.Denis; 1m: Fontainebleau VII.1313/19.5.1328 !dwid! Jeanne de Bourgogne (*1294 +12.9.1348); 2m: Brie-Comte-Robert 29.1.1349 Blanche of Navarre (*1331 +5.10.1398)
* A2. [1m.] Charles "le Magnanime", Cte d'Alençon et de Perche 1326, de Chartres, de Porhoet et de Joigny, *1297, +k.a.Crécy 26.8.1346, bur Jacobins, Paris; 1m: IV.1314 Jeanne, Cts de Joigny (+2.9.1336) dau.of Cte Jean II Blondel; 2m: XII.1336 Maria de la Cerda (*1310, +Paris 19.11.1379, bur Jacobins, Paris) dau.of Fernando de la Cerda, sn de Lunel
* A3. [2m.] Jean, Cte de Chartres, *1302, living 1308
* A4. [3m.] Louis, Cte d´Alençon et de Chartres, *1318, +2.11.1328, bur Cordeliers, Paris
* A5. [1m.] Isabelle, *1292, +1309; m.1297 Duc Jean III de Bretagne (*1286 +1341)
* A6. [1m.] Jeanne, *1294, +as a nun at Fontenelles 7.3.1342; m.Chauny 19.5.1305/37 Ct William III of Hainaut and Holland (*1286 +7.6.1337)

* A7. [1m.] Marguerite, *1295, +1342; m.1310 Guy I de Châtillon, Cte de Blois et Dunois (+1342)
* A8. [1m.] Catherine, *1299, +young, bur Abbaye du Val-de-Sery
* A9. [2m.] Catherine, who as heiress to her mother was titular Empress of Constantinople and Pss of Achaia, *1303, +Naples X.1346; m.Fontainebleau 30.7.1313 Philippe d´Anjou, Pr of Tarento (*1278 +1332)
* A10. [2m.] Jeanne, *1304, +Château Gaillard 9/13.7.1363, bur Augustins, Paris; m.1318 Robert III d'Artois, Cte de Beaumont (*1278 +1342)
* A11. [2m.] Isabelle, Abbess of Fontevrault 1342, *1306, +11.11.1349, bur Fontevrault
* A12. [2m.] Marie, *1309, +6.12.1328; m.Paris 1324 Charles d´Anjou, Duke of Calabria (*28.5.1298 +9.11.1328)
* A13. [2m.] Isabelle, a nun in Paris, *1313, +Paris 26.7.1383, bur there m.25.1.1336 !dwid!/1337 Duc Pierre I de Bourbon (*1311 +1356)
* A14. [2m.] Blanche=Marguerite, *1317, +Prague 1.8.1348, bur Prague; m.Prague 1329 Emperor Charles IV, (*14.5.1316 +29.11.1378)

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Our 55537 Blanche is A14. Dates are OK, but 55805 Marguerite is not her mother. Her mother is Catherine I de Courtenay who is not in the game. The same goes for 61702 Marie (A12) and 61717 Catherine (A9).

Solution: remove reference to mother for 55537 Blanche, 61702 Marie and 61717 Catherine.
MC_1337_15
Cecile de Comminges
Father: 55553 Bernard yr=1310 - 1336
Mother: 55554 Marthe yr=1315 - 0 de L'isle Jourdain
Marriage: 60520 Jaume yr=1321 - 0 d'Aragó
Siblings: 55552 Jean yr=1336 - 0; 55557 Jeanne yr=1330 - 0
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/foix/foix4.html

# E1. Cte Bernard VIII de Comminges, Vcte de Turenne, +ca 1336; 1m: Puelle, dau.of Geraud VI, Cte d'Armagnac; 2m: Marguerite, Vcts de Turenne, dau.of Vcte Raymond VII; 3m: before IV.1314 Nathe (+after 12.12.1352) dau.of Bernard Jourdain IV, Baron de l'Isle-Jourdain, by Marguerite de Foix
* F1. [2m.] a daughter, +young
* F2. [3m.] Cte Jean I de Comminges, *1336, +1339
* F3. [3m.] Cecile, +1384; m.1336 Jaime I de Aragon, Cde de Urgel (+1347)
* F4. [3m.] Marguerite de Comminges, +ca 1349
* F5. [3m.] Jeanne de Comminges, m.1350 Cte Pierre Raimond II de Comminges (+1375/6)
* F6. [3m.] Alienor de Comminges, m.17.11.1349 Guillaume Roger de Beaufort, Vcte de Turenne
* F7. [3m.] Mathe de Comminges, a nun
* F8. [3m.] Beatrix de Comminges, a nun

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F3 is 55556 Cecile. Parents seem to young.
http://herve.gros.nom.fr/genanglais/html/dat43.htm

DE COMMINGES, Bernard VIII
Birth : @#DJULIAN@ about 1285
Death : @#DJULIAN@ after 1336

DE LISLE-JOURDAIN, Mathe
Birth : @#DJULIAN@ about 1305
Death : @#DJULIAN@ after 1352

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See also Wikipedia.
Solution: Change birthdate of 55554 Marthe to 1305. Change birthdate of 55553 Bernard to 1285. Change birthdate of 55550 Bernard (55553 Bernrad's father) to 1246.
MC_1337_16
Jean de Dreux
Father: 55751 Arthur yr=1262 - 1312
Mother: 55590 Marie yr=1260 - 1291 de Limoges
Marriage: 55714 Jeanne yr=1313 - 0 de Dampierre
Siblings: 55750 Jean yr=1286 - 0; 55754 Gui yr=1287 - 1331; 55756 Alix yr=1298 - 0; 55757 Marie yr=1302 - 0
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet16.html

# C1. Duc Arthur I de Bretagne (1305-12), Cte de Richemont et de Montfort, *2.7.1262, +Château de l'Isle 27.8.1312, bur Vannes; 1m: Tours 1275 Vcts Marie de Limoges (*1260 +1291) dau.of Vcte Guy IV de Limoges; 2m: 1292 Cts Yolande de Montfort (*1263 +1322) dau.of Cte Robert IV de Dreux
* D1. Duc Jean III "le Bon" de Bretagne (1312-41), *Chantoceaux 8.3.1286, +Caen 30.4.1341, bur Ploermel; 1m: 1297 Isabelle de Valois (*1292 +1309) dau.of Charles I, Cte de Valois; 2m: Burgos 1310 Vcts Isabella de Limoges (*1283 +1328) dau.of King Sancho IV of Castile; 3m: Chartres 1329 Jeanne of Savoy (*1310 +1344)
* D2. Cte Guy de Penthièvre et de Goelo, *1287, +Nigeon nr Paris 16.3.1331, bur Guingamp; 1m: 1318 Cts Jeanne de Goello (*1300 +1327, bur Guingamp) dau.of Henri de Bretagne, sn d'Avaugour; 2m: (dissolved by Pope 1330) Jeanne de Belleville
* D3. Pierre, sn d'Avesnes, *1289, +1312
* D4. Duc Jean IV "le Conquérant" de Bretagne (1341-45), Cte de Montfort, *1295, +Château d'Hennebon 16.9.1345, bur Quimperle; m.Chartres 1329 Jeanne (+1374) dau.of Louis of Flanders, Cte de Nevers et de Rethel
* D5. Beatrix, Dame de Hede, *1295, +9.12.1384, bur Abbaye de Clermont nr Laval; m.2.3.1315 Guy X de Laval (+18.6.1347)
* D6. Jeanne, *1296, +Ypern 1364; m.1323 Robert of Flanders, Cte de Marle (+1331)
* D7. Alix, *1298, +Montoire-en-Vendomois 1377, bur Mans m.1320 Cte Bouchard VI de Vendôme (+1353)
* D8. Blanche, *1300, +young
* D9. Marie, a nun at Poissy, *1302, +1371, bur there

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D4 is our 55755 Jean. All dates check with the game. Obviously he is a child from the second marriage (Yolande de Montfort is the mother). I can't find Yolande in the game...

Solution: 55755 Jean loses reference to mother. 55756 Alix and 55757 Marie also lose reference to mother.
MC_1337_17
Alix de Dreux
Solved with MC_1337_16.
MC_1337_18
Marie de Dreux
Solved with MC_1337_16.
MC_1337_19
Eleonore Plantagenet
See MC_1337_10.
Solution: 55764 Eleonore (D10) loses a reference to mother.
MC_1337_20
Guy de Chatillon
Father: 55775 Gaucher yr=1230 - 1261
Mother: None
Marriage: None
Siblings: 55776 Gaucher yr=1255 - 1329
Children: 55782 Hugues yr=1258 - 1303; 55787 Guy yr=1259 - 1317

http://members.aol.com/rfield/chatilon.html

# 11.
Hugues V of Chatillon
b. by 1196, d. 1248,
m. 1226, Dame Marie d'Avesnes, d. 1241, and had issue,
i. Guy IV [see Next]
ii. Gaucher IV, b. aft 1225, d. 1261, m. Isabelle de Villehardouin, b. ca. 1235,
and had a son,
a. Gaucher V, b. ca. 1255, d. 1329, m. c1280, Isabelle de Dreux, b. 1264,
d. 1300, and had issue,
# 12.
Guy IV of Chatillon
b. aft 1225, d. 1289,
m. 1250, Matilda of Brabant [Css de St. Pol], d. 29 Sep 1288, and had issue,
i. Guy III [Cte de St. Pol], d. 1317, m. 1292, Marie of Brittany [Dame de
la Guerche], b. 1268, d. 5 May 1339, had issue,
ii. Hugues II [see Next]
iii. Jacques, d. 1302, m. Catherine de Conde, lvg 1329, and had a son,

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It seems that 55775 is not the father, but a brother.

Solution: 55786 Guy gets a new father 55774.
MC_1337_21
Jean de Thouars
Father: 55928 Guy yr=1255 - 1308
Mother: 55929 Marguerite yr=1276 - 1310 de Brienne
Marriage: 55932 Blanche yr=1290 - 1327 de Brabant
Siblings: None
Children: 55930 Louis yr=1310 - 0; 55934 Jean yr=1330 - 0; 55935 Pernelle yr=1332 - 0; 55936 Isabeau yr=1334 - 0; 55937 Simon yr=1336 - 0; 55938 Jean yr=1312 - 0; 55939 Gui yr=1318 - 0

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/thouars2.html

# D1. Vcte Guy II de Thouars, +1308; m.Marguerite de Brienne (+1310)
* E1. Vcte Jean de Thouars, +1332; m.before 1307 Blanche of Brabant
o F1. Vcte Louis de Thouars, +Talmont 1370; 1m: ca 1330 Cts Jeanne de Dreux (+1355); 2m: before VII.1361 Isabeau d'Avaugour; all kids were by 1m.
o F2. Jean de Thoaurs, sn de la Cheze-le-Vicomte; m.Marguerite de Parthenay
o F3. Guy de Thouars, +ca 1354; m.Jeanne de Maulevrier
* E2. Vcte Hugues II de Thouars, sn de Pouzanges et de Mauleon, +1333; 1m: Isabeau de Noyers; 2m: Jeanne de Beaugency
* E3. Louis de Thouars, sn de Talmont, fl 1357
* E4. Guy de Thouars, bap 1274
* E5. Marguerite de Thouars; m.Guillaume VI l'Archeveque de Parthenay
* E6. Isabelle de Thouars; m.Louis de Sancerre, sn de Sagonne
* E7. Blanche de Thouars, a nun at Maubuisson

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E1 is 55931 Jean. No birthdates for him or the mother.
http://www.qserve.net/~zircon/gen/d0000/g0000079.html#I2759

Marguerite DE BRIENNE
ABT 1270 - 1310
Family 1 : Guy II DE THOUARS
1. +Jean DE THOUARS
2. +Marguerite DE THOUARS

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They bravely claim that she was born abt 1270. Since that suits me fine:

Solution: 55929 Marguerite de Brienne gets a new birthdate 1270.
MC_1337_22
Jean de Thouars
Father: 55931 Jean yr=1283 - 1332
Mother: 55932 Blanche yr=1290 - 1327 de Brabant
Marriage: None
Siblings: 55930 Louis yr=1310 - 0; 55935 Pernelle yr=1332 - 0; 55936 Isabeau yr=1334 - 0; 55937 Simon yr=1336 - 0; 55938 Jean yr=1312 - 0; 55939 Gui yr=1318 - 0
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/thouars2.html

# E1. Vcte Jean de Thouars, +1332; m.before 1307 Blanche of Brabant
* F1. Vcte Louis de Thouars, +Talmont 1370; 1m: ca 1330 Cts Jeanne de Dreux (+1355); 2m: before VII.1361 Isabeau d'Avaugour; all kids were by 1m.
o G1. Jean de Thouars, sn de la Cheze-le-Vicomte et de Mortagne, +ca 1355
o G2. Simon de Thouars, Cte de Dreux, +in a tournament at Chateau d'Eu 1365, bur abbaye d'Eu; m.Chateau d'Eu 12.7.1365 Jeanne d'Artois (*1353 +1420)
o G3. Pernelle, Cts de Dreux, Vcts de Thouars, +Puybeliard 1397; 1m: ca 1345 Amaury de Craon (+1373); 2m: before 28.5.1376 Clement Rouault (+1396)
o G4. Isabeau de Thouars, Cts de Dreux et de Benon; 1m: Guy de Nesle, sn de Mello (+1352); 2m: before 1356 Ingelger d'Amboise; 3m: Guillaume d'Harcourt (+1400)
o G5. Marguerite de Thouars, Cts de Dreux, +after 23.10.1404; 1m: before 21.4.1367 Thomas de Chemille; 2m: before 1378 Guy Turpin, sn de Crisse
* F2. Jean de Thoaurs, sn de la Cheze-le-Vicomte; m.Marguerite de Parthenay
* F3. Guy de Thouars, +ca 1354; m.Jeanne de Maulevrier

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Generation mixed up in game. E1 is 55931 Jean. Children of E1 are F1 55930 Louis, F2 55938 Jean and F3 55939 Gui. Children of F1 are G1 55934 Jean, G2 55937 Simon, G3 55935 Pernelle and G4 55936 Isabeau.

Solution: 55934 Jean, 55937 Simon, 55935 Pernelle and 55936 Isabeau get a new father 55930 Loius and a new mother 55933 Jeanne de Dreux.
MC_1337_23
Pernelle de Thouars
Solved with MC_1337_22.
MC_1337_24
Isabeau de Thouars
Solved with MC_1337_22.
MC_1337_25
Simon de Thouars
Solved with MC_1337_22.
MC_1337_26
Luis de la Cerda
Father: 57550 Luis yr=1296 - 0
Mother: None
Marriage: None
Siblings: 57552 Fernando yr=1300 - 0; 57553 Juan yr=1325 - 0; 57554 Isabel yr=1322 - 0
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/ivrea/ivrea7.html

# C1. Inft Luis de la Cerda, Pr of the Canary Islands, Cte de Clermont et de Talmont, Admiral of France, *after 1296, +ca 1348; 1m: 1306 Leonor, dau.of Alfonso Peres de Guzman, sn de Medina Sidonia; 2m: 1346 Guyotte (+after 1399) dau.of Vcte Robert d'Uzes; all kids were by 1m.
* D1. Inft Alfonso, +young
* D2. Inft Luis, Cte de Talmont, +ca 1351
* D3. Inft Fernando, +ca 1341
* D4. Inft Juan, sn de Huelva, *after 1325, +executed at Seville 1357; m.1351 Maria Coronel, sna de Aguilar (+after 1411)
* D5. Infta Isabel, sna de El Puerto de Santa Maria, *1322, +ca 1383; 1m: Rodrigo de Asturias, sn de Norona, Giron y Trastamara (+1334); 2m: Rodrigo Ponce, sn de Puebla Cangas y Tineo; 3m: 1368 Bernard de Foix, batard de Bearn, Cde de Medinaceli

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D2 is 57551 Luis. No birthdate for him. Father seems to be solid. Can't find birthdates for 57551 Luis and 57552 Fernando.
MC_1337_27
Fernando de la Cerda
See MC_1337_26.
MC_1337_28
Fernando de Valencia
Father: 57562 Alfonso yr=1282 - 1315
Mother: 57683 Teresa yr=1300 - 0 Nuñez de Lara
Marriage: 59504 Maria yr=1316 - 0 of Portugal
Siblings: 57600 Alfonso yr=1316 - 0; 57611 Juan yr=1293 - 1326 (no mother)
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/ivrea/ivrea7.html

# B1. [1m.] Inft Alfonso of Castile, sn de Valencia de Campos, etc, *1282/3, +Morales 1315; 1m: Palencia 1303 Teresa Nunez de Lara (+ca 1314); 2m: Juana de Castro
* C1. Fernando de Valencia, sn de Valencia de Campos, *1316, +k.a.Lisbon 1384; m. Maria, illegitimate dau.of King Affonso IV of Portugal
o D1. Juan, sn de Valencia de Campos, etc, Marshal of Castile, +after 1412; 1m: Beatriz de Acuna; 2m: Maria Cabeza de Vaca
o D2. Alfonso de Valencia; m.Mencia de Carcamo y Quesada
o D3. Fernando de Valencia, a priest
* C2. Alonso de Valencia, Bp of Zamora, *1316

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C1 is 57590 Fernando. Dates are exactly like those in the game and are techniacally possible. His mother is more problematic cause she died in 1314, 2 years before his birth. However, discrepancy is not that big and I will leave it alone, but mark it as unsolved.
MC_1337_29
Alfonso de Valencia
See MC_1337_28.
MC_1337_30
Violante de Borgoña
Father: 57621 Juan Manuel yr=1234 - 1283
Mother: None
Marriage: 59523 Affonso yr=1263 - 1312 de Coimbra
Siblings: 57630 Juan Manuel yr=1282 - 0; 57633 Sancho yr=1283 - 0
Children: 59524 Isabel yr=1292 - 0; 59525 Maria yr=1290 - 0

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet47.html

E5. Affonso, sn de Portalegre, etc, *Lisbon 1263, +there 1312, bur there; m.ca 1287 Violante=Yolande (*1265, +Lisbon 1314, bur there) dau.of Juan Manuel de Castilla, Duque de Penafiel y Escalona
* F1. Affonso, sn de Leiria, *ca 1288, +1300
* F2. Maria, *ca 1290; 1m: Tello III Affonso de Molina, sn de Montalegre (+1315); 2m: 1315 Fernando de Haro, sn de Ordono
* F3. Isabel, sna de Pinella e Miranda, *ca 1292, +shortly before 1367; m.Juan el Curvo de Castilla, sn de Biscaya, titular King of Leon (+1326)
* F4. Costanca, *ca 1294; m.Gonzala Nunez de Lara
* F5. Brites, *ca 1298; m.Pedro Fernandez de Castro, sn de Lemos (+1343)

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E5 is 57622 Violante's husband 59523 Affonso de Coimbra. It is clear that she was born in 1265.

Solution: Change birthdate of 57622 Violante to 1265.
MC_1337_31
Fernando de Borgoña
Father: 57630 Juan Manuel yr=1282 - 0
Mother: 60564 Constanza yr=1300 - 1327 d'Aragó
Marriage: None
Siblings: 57631 Constanza yr=1315 - 0
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/ivrea/ivrea6.html

F3. [2m.] Juan Manuel "el Scritor", sn de Penafiel, Escalona y Villena, etc, *Escalona 1282, +Cordoba 1348; 1m: Perpignan 1299 Isabel (+Alicante after 10.10.1301) dau.of King Jaime II of Majorca; 2m: Jativa 1312 Constanza of Aragon (*1300 +1327); 3m: 1329 Blanca de la Cerda (+1347)
* G1. [1m.] Constanza, *after 1315/ca 1323, +Santarem 1345, bur there; 1m: Valladolid 1325 (annulled 1327) King Alfonso XI of Castile (*1311 +26.3.1350); 2m: Lisbon 1339 King Pedro I of Portugal (*1320 +1367)
* G2. [1m.] Beatriz, +young
* G3. [2m.] Fernando, sn de Escalon e Penafiel y Villena, etc, +after 8.8.1350; m.Castellon de Ampurias 1346 Juana (+Toledo 1395) dau.of Ramon Berenguer of Aragon, Cde de Ampurias
o H1. Blanca, sna de Villena, Escalona y Penafiel, *after 1348, +Seville 1361
* G4. [2m.] Juana, sna de Villena, Escalona y Penafiel, sna de Lara y Vizcaya, *1339, +Salamanca 1381; m.1350 King Enrique II of Castile (*1333 +1379)

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Parents seem to have solid birth/deathdates. 57632 Fernando (G3) does not and I can't find anything better.

unmerged(11427) · Apr 22, 2006

MC solutions for 1337 scenario (Part 2)

MC_1337_32
Fernando de Borgoña
Father: 57633 Sancho yr=1283 - 0
Mother: 57634 Maria yr=1300 - 0 de Castañeda
Marriage: None
Siblings: 57635 Juan yr=1325 - 0; 57642 Leonor yr=1240 - 1290
Children: 57637 Jean yr=1264 - 1302

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/ivrea/ivrea6.html

D4. [2m.] King FERNANDO III of Castile and Leon (1217-52), and of Cordoba, Jaen and Seville, etc, *VIII.1201, +Seville 30.5.1252; 1m: Burgos 30.11.1219 Elisabeth von Hohenstaufen (*1205 +30.11.1235); 2m: Burgos 1237 Jeanne, Cts de Ponthieu (+Abbeville 1279) dau.of Simon de Dammartin, Cte de Ponthieu
* E1. King ALFONSO X "el Sabio" of Castile and Leon (1252-84), German King (1257-75); *Toledo 26.11.1221, +Seville 4.4.1284; m.Valladolid 4.4.1248 Violante of Aragon (*1236 +1301); See HERE
* E2. Inft Fadrique, *Guadalajara before 6.6.1224, +executed 1277; m.ca 1274 Catherine (*1248 +ca 1294) dau.of Nikephoros Dukas Komnenos, Despot of Epirus
Simon Ruiz, sn de Los Cameros (+1277)
* E3. Inft Fernando, *Cuenca before 15.1.1227, +after 1243
* E4. Inft Enrique "el Senador" sn de Ecija, etc, *after 1230, +Roa 1304; m.1300 Juana Nunez de Lara "la Palomilla" (+Palencia 1351)
* E5. Inft Felipe, sn de Valdecorneja, Archbishop of Seville, *after 1231, +1274; 1m: 1258 Pss Christine of Norway (*1234 +1262); 2m: before 1269 Leonor (+Santaolalla after 27.4.1275) dau.of Alvar de Castro, sn de Cigales
* E6. Inft Sancho, Archbishop of Toledo and Seville, *1233, +Toledo 1261
* E7. Inft Juan Manuel, sn de Escalona, Penafiel y Villena, *Carrion 1234, +Penafiel 25.12.1283; 1m: Soria 1260 Constanza of Aragon (*1239 +ca 1269); 2m: ca 1274 Beatrix of Savoy (+23.2.1292)
o F1. [1m.] Alfonso, *after 1260, +1276; m.1266 Guilemette (+1306) dau.of Vcte Gaston de Bearn
o F2. [1m.] Violante, sna de Elche y Medellin, +Lisbon 1314; m.ca 1287 Inft Affonso of Portugal (+1312)
o F3. [2m.] Juan Manuel "el Scritor", sn de Penafiel, Escalona y Villena, etc, *Escalona 1282, +Cordoba 1348; 1m: Perpignan 1299 Isabel (+Alicante after 10.10.1301) dau.of King Jaime II of Majorca; 2m: Jativa 1312 Constanza of Aragon (*1300 +1327); 3m: 1329 Blanca de la Cerda (+1347)
o F4. [2m.] Sancho, sn de Infantado y Carrion, *1283, +after 1320; m.after 1315 Maria de Castaneda
+ G1. Juan, Cde de Carrion, *after 1325, +Alcaraz 1390; m.after 1350 Juana, dau.of Pedro de Aragona, Baron de Ejerica
# H1. Alfonso, Cde de Carrion, +after 1393
# H2. Leonor, Cdsa de Carrion; m.Juan de Padilla
# H3. Ines; m.Garci de Villodre
+ G2. Fernando, Bp of Calahorra, +1407
* E8. Infta Leonor, *after 1232, +young
* E9. Infta Berenguela, a nun at Las Huelgas, *after 1233, +there 1279
* E10. Infta Maria, *and +before 5.11.1235
* E11. [2m.] Inft Fernando, Cte d'Aumale, *after 1239, +in France before 1269; m.btw 1256-1267 Laure de Montfort, Dame d'Espernon (+1270)
o F1. Jean I de Ponthieu, Cte d'Aumale, *after 1264, +k.a.Kortrijk 11.7.1302; m.Ide (+1324) dau.of Amaury de Mellent
+ G1. Jean II de Ponthieu, Cte d'Aumale, +1340; m.before IX.1320 Catherine (+Normandy 1368) dau. of Robert d'Artois, Cte de Beaumont
# H1. Blanche de Ponthieu, Cts d'Aumale, +1387; m.1340/41 Cte Jean d'Harcourt (+1355)
# H2. Jeanne de Ponthieu, Dame d'Espernon, +1376; m.Cte Jean de Vendome
+ G2. Laure de Ponthieu; m.Guy de Mauvoisin
* E12. [2m.] Inft Luis, sn de Marchena, *before 1243, +after 1269; m.Juana de Manzanedo, sna de Gaton
o F1. Luis, sn de Marchena, etc, *before 1269, +ca 1279
o F2. Berenguela de Castilla, +ca 1279
* E13. [2m.] Infta Leonor, Cts de Ponthieu, *1240/41, +Herdeby, Lincs 28.11.1290; m.Burgos 1254 King Edward I of England (*1239 +1307)

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This is some serious case of mistaken identity. Our 57636 Fernando is E11 not G2. 57636 Fernando is uncle of 57633 Sancho not his son! Same goes for 57642 Leonor. Third child 57635 Juan is G1 Juan and is correct.

Solution: Change father of 57636 Fernando and 57642 Leonor to 57620 Fernando. 57636 Fernando and 57642 Leonor lose reference to mother (57620 Fernando is not married to anyone and his other two children have no reference to mother).
MC_1337_33
Leonor de Borgoña
Solved with MC_1337_32
MC_1337_34
Alfonso de Meneses
Father: 57660 Alfonso yr=1203 - 1272
Mother: 57661 Mayor yr=1300 - 0 de Meneses
Marriage: None
Siblings: 57666 Maria yr=1260 - 1321 de Molina
Children: 57663 Tello yr=1285 - 1315

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/ivrea/ivrea6.html

D5. [2m.] Inft Alfonso, sn de Molina y Mesa, *1203/4, +Salamanca 1272; 1m: 1222 Mafalda, sna de Molina y Mesa (+ca 1242) dau.of Gonzalo de Lara; 2m: after IX.1244 Teresa (+after 1246) dau.of Cde Gonzalo Nunez de Lara; 3m: after 1246 Mayor, sna de Montealegre y Tiedra, dau.of Alfonso Tellez de Meneses
* E1. [1m.] Fernando, *after 1242, +ca 1272
* E2. [1m.] Blanca, sna de Molina y Mesa, *after 1240, +Molina 1293; m.Alfonso Nino batard de Castilla (+1281)
* E3. [2m.] Juana de Molina, *ca 1246, +after 1280; m.1269 Lope Diaz de Haro, soberano de Vizcaya (+1288)
* E4. [3m.] Alfonso de Meneses, sn de Meneses etc, +1314; m.Teresa Perez de Asturias
o F1. Tello de Meneses, sn de Meneses etc, +Tardejas 1315; m.Maria, dau.of Inft Affonso of Portugal
* E5. [3m.] Maria Alfonsa de Molina, sna de Molina y Mesa, *after 1260, +Valladolid 1321; m.Toledo 1280/1 King Sancho IV of Castile (*1258 +1295)
[illegitimate by Teresa Perez de Braganca]:
* E6. Juan Alfonso
* E7. Leonor; m.Alfonso de Villamayor, sn de Celada
* E8. Berenguela, +Narbonne 1272; m.Gonzalo Froilaz
* E9. Urraca; m.Garcia Carillo

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Father is OK. Mother's birthdate ingame is probably way to wrong. Same for 57622 Alfonso. His sister Maria Alfonsa de Molina seems to be OK, if I fix the mother.

http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cousin/html/p198.htm#i12140

Mayor de Meneses: b. after 1230, d. 1265

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That is the mother 57661 Mayor de Meneses (ingame marriage 1246 supports the dates). This will fix 57666 Maria de Molina, but not 57662 Alfonso.
Solved in DC_1337_4.
MC_1337_35
Tello de Meneses
See MC_1337_34. Solved with DC_1337_4.
MC_1337_36
Maria de Molina
See MC_1337_34. Solved with DC_1337_4.
MC_1337_37
Pedro de Castro
Father: 57674 Fernando yr=1300 - 0
Mother: None
Marriage: 57671 Isabel yr=1300 - 0 Ponce de Leon
Siblings: None
Children: 57672 Juana yr=1300 - 0; 57673 Ines yr=1320 - 0 (no mother)

Dates seem to be generic. I can't find anything usefull.
MC_1337_38
Juana de Castro
See MC_1337_37.
MC_1337_39
Violante de Castilla
Father: 57530 Sancho yr=1258 - 1295
Mother: None
Marriage: 57674 Fernando yr=1300 - 0 de Castro
Siblings: 57520 Fernando yr=1285 - 1312 (mother 57666 Maria yr=1260 - 1321 de Molina); 57531 Pedro yr=1290 - 1319 (mother 57666 Maria yr=1260 - 1321 de Molina); 57676 Isabella yr=1283 - 1328 (mother 57666 Maria yr=1260 - 1321 de Molina)
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/ivrea/ivrea7.html

# A2. King SANCHO IV "el Bravo" of Castile and Leon (1284-95), *1258, +Toledo 1295; m.there 1281 Maria Alfonsa, sna de Molina y Mesa (*aft.1260 +1321) dau.of Inft Alfonso of Castile, sn de Molina y Mesa
* B1. King FERNANDO IV "el Ajurno" of Castile and Leon (1295-1312), *Seville 6.12.1285, +Jaen 7.9.1312; m.Valladolid 1302 Costanca of Portugal (*3.1.1290 +17.11.1313); for their descendants see HERE
* B2. Inft Alfonso, *Valladolid 1286, +there 1291
* B3. Inft Enrique, *Vitoria 1288, +1299
* B4. Inft Pedro, Regent of Castile, sn de los Cameros etc, *Valladolid 1290, +k.a.Vega de Grenada 1319; m.Calatayud 1311 Maria of Aragon (*1299)
* B5. Inft Felipe, sn de Cabrera y Ribera, Regent of Castile, *Seville 1292, +Madrid 1327; m.before XI.1315 Margarita de la Cerda (above)
* B6. Infta Isabella, Vcts de Limoges, *Toro 1283, +1328, bur Priere; 1m: Soria 1291 (annulled 1295) King Jaime II of Aragon; 2m: Burgos 1310 Duc Jean III de Bretagne (*1286 +1341)
* B7. Infta Beatriz, *Toro 1293, +Lisbon 1359, bur there; m.Lisbon 12.9.1309 King Affonso IV of Portugal (*1291 +1357)
* B8. [illegitimate by Maria de Meneses, sna de Ucero] Violante Sanchez, *before 1280, +after 1327; m.1293 Fernбn Rodrнguez de Castro, sn de Lemos
* B9. [illegitimate by Maria Perez] Alfonso Sanchez; m.Maria Diaz de Haro
* B10. [illegitimate] Teresa Sanchez; m.Juan de Meneses, Cde de Barcelos (+1304)

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B8 is 57675 Violante. All dates, but hers check.

Solution: Change birthdate of 57675 Violante to 1280. I'm going to let her live past 1337 (married and childless as she is in the game).
MC_1337_40
Juana Nuñez de Lara
Father: 57681 Juan yr=1300 - 0
Mother: 57682 Teresa yr=1300 - 0 Alvarez de Azagra
Marriage: 57580 Fernando yr=1275 - 1322 de la Cerda
Siblings: 57683 Teresa yr=1300 - 0
Children: 57558 Blanca yr=1311 - 0; 57559 Margarita yr=1312 - 0; 57560 Maria yr=1315 - 0; 57581 Juan yr=1313 - 0

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/ivrea/ivrea7.html

# B2. Inft Fernando of Castile, sn de Lara, *1275, +shortly after 1.6.1322; m.1308 Juana Nunez de Lara "la Palomilla", sna de Lara y Herrera (*1285 +Palencia 1351)
* C1. Inft Juan de la Cerda, sn de Lara y Vizcaya, *1313/4, +Burgos 1350; m.1331 Maria de Haro, sna de Vizcaya (+1351)
* C2. Infta Blanca de la Cerda, *after 1311, +1347; m.1328 Juan Manuel de Castilla, sn de Villena y Escalona (+1348)
* C3. Infta Margarita de la Cerda, a nun at Calaruega (1312-ca 1373)
* C4. Infta Maria de la Cerda, Dame de Lunel, *after 1315, +1379; 1m: 1335 Charles d'Evreux, Cte d'Etampes (+1336); 2m: 1336 Charles, Cte d'Alencon (+1346)

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Dates for 57680 Juana and her husband 57580 Fernando (B2) are fine. Thier children also. Now I have to hunt 57680 Juana's parents.
Solved with BM_1337_11.
MC_1337_41
Teresa Nuñez de Lara
Solved with BM_1337_11.
MC_1337_42
Isabel de Coimbra
Solved with MC_1337_30.
MC_1337_43
Maria de Coimbra
Solved with MC_1337_30.
MC_1337_44
Fernao de Sousa
Father: 59536 Gonçalo yr=1330 - 0
Mother: None
Marriage: None
Siblings: None
Children: None
Grandfather: None

Not enough information. I don't have a clue who are these two.
MC_1337_45
Martim de Coimbra
Father: 59520 Affonso yr=1210 - 1279
Mother: 57564 Beatriz yr=1242 - 1303 de Castilla
Marriage: 59551 Ignez yr=1250 - 0 de Sousa
Siblings: 59510 Diniz yr=1261 - 1325; 59523 Affonso yr=1263 - 1312; 59530 Affonso yr=1260 - 1310
Children: 59552 Martim yr=1275 - 1323

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet47.html

# D2. King AFFONSO III of Portugal (1248-79), *Coimbra 1210, +Lisbon 16.2.1279, bur Alcobace; 1m: 1235 (div 1253) Matilda, Cts de Boulogne (*ca 1202, +1262) dau.of Renaud, Cte de Dammartin by Ide de Lorraine, Cts de Boulogne; 2m: 1253 Brites=Beatrix (*1242 +1303) illegitimate dau.of King Alfonso X of Castile
* E1. Roberto, *1239, +young
* E2. a son, *ca 1240, +young
* E3. Fernando, *1260, +Lisbon 1262, bur Alcobace
* E4. King DINIZ I "the Just" of Potugal (1279-1325), *Lisbon 9.10.1261, +Santarem 7.1.1325, bur Odivellas; m.Trancosa 1282 Isabel of Aragon (*1271 +1336); for his descendants see HERE
* E5. Affonso, sn de Portalegre, etc, *Lisbon 1263, +there 1312, bur there; m.ca 1287 Violante=Yolande (*1265, +Lisbon 1314, bur there) dau.of Juan Manuel de Castilla, Duque de Penafiel y Escalona
* E6. Vicente, *1268, +Lisbon 1271, bur Alcobace
* E7. Branca, Vcdsa de Huelgas, Abbess of Lorvano, *Guimaraes 1259, +Burgos 1321, bur Huelgas
* E8. Sancha, *1264, +Seville 1302, bur Alcobace

* E9. Maria, *1264, +Coimbra 1304, bur Alcobace
* E10. Costanca, *ca 1266, +Seville before 23.11.1271
[illegitimate by Mariana Pirez de Enxara]:
* E11. Fernando Affonso de Portugal, bur Lisbon
* E12. Affonso Diniz de Portugal, +after 24.4.1310, sn de Pouca; m.ca 1278 Maria Paes Ribeiro de Sousa, sna de Sousa (+after 30.7.1330); for his descendants, See HERE
[illegitimate by Magdalena Gil]:
* E13. Gilles Affonso de Portugal, bur Lisbon
* E14. Martim Affonso Chicorro, +after 12.11.1299; m.ca 1274 Ignez Lourenco de Sousa de Valadares; for his descendants, See HERE
[illegitimate by Elvira Estevez]:
* E15. Leonor Affonsa, +after 1302; 1m: Lisbon 1271 Estevao Annes de Sousa, Chancellor of Portugal (+1272); 2m: Santarem 1273 Goncalo Garcia de Sousa, Cde de Neiva
[illegitimate by unknown mothers]:
* E16. Rodrigo Affonso de Portugal, a Prior of Santarem, +there 1302, bur there
* E17. Urraca Affonsa; m.Pedro Annez Gago de Riba de Visello (+1292)
* E18. Leonor Affonsa, a nun, +1259
* E19. Urraca Affonsa, a nun at Lorvano, +1319
* E20. Henrique Affonsa, +in Palestine; m.Ignez

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E14 is 59550 Martim. His 'parents' have solid dates. No birthdate for 59550 Martim. However, from the part I have underlined it is clear that 59550 Martim's mother is one Magdalena Gil.
Another link saying the same thing.

Solution: 59550 Martim loses a reference to mother.
MC_1337_46
Ferran d'Aragó
Father: 60605 Ferran yr=1278 - 1316
Mother: None
Marriage: None
Siblings: 60620 Jaume yr=1315 - 0 (mother 60606 Isabelle yr=1297 - 1315 de Sabran)
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/barcelona/barcelona2.html

# E3. Fernando, Pr of Achaia and Morea, *1278, +beheaded in the Peloponeses 5.7.1316; 1m: Messina 17.2.1314 Isabelle, Dame de Matagriphon (*1297 +Catania 7.5.1315) dau.of Isnard de Sabran by Marguerite de Villehardouin; 2m: 5.10.1315 Isabelle (*1300 +after 1316), dau.of Philip d'Ibelin, Seneschal of Cyprus
* F1. King JAIME III of Majorca etc (1324-49), *Catania 5.4.1315, +k.a.Lluchmajor 25.10.1349 (the king of Aragon had retaken Majorca during the 1340s, labeling Jaime as "a contumacious vassal"); 1m: Perpignan 24.9.1336 Constanza (*1318 +1346) dau.of King Alfonso IV of Aragon; 2m: 10.11.1347 Violante, Vcts d'Omelas (*ca 1324 +1369), dau.of Berenguer de Villarragut by Saura de Majorca
* F2. Fernando, Vcte d'Omelas, *1317, +1343/7; m.1337/9 (separated 1341) Eschiva (+of the plague 1363) dau.of King Hugo IV of Cyprus
* F3. [illegitimate] Sancho de Majorca; m.Laura de Rosellon
* F4. [illegitimate] Fernando de Majorca
* F5. [illegitimate] Pagano de Majorca, +k.a.Lluchmajor 25.10.1349; m.Blanca de Salellas
* F6. [illegitimate] Esclaramunda de Majorca, a nun at St.Clara, Perpignan

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F2 is 60607 Ferran. Everything fits and it is technically possible for a child to be born after father's death...

Solution: Leave everything as it is.
MC_1337_47
Orlando d'Aragon
Father: 61500 Federigo yr=1272 - 1337
Mother: 61501 Sibilla yr=1290 - 0 Sormella
Marriage: None
Siblings: 61502 Pietro yr=1304 - 0 (mother 55806 Eleonore yr=1280 - 0 d'Anjou); 61509 Constanza yr=1310 - 0 (mother 55806 Eleonore yr=1280 - 0 d'Anjou); 61510 Gugliemo yr=1312 - 0 (mother 55806 Eleonore yr=1280 - 0 d'Anjou); 61520 Giovanni yr=1317 - 0 (mother 55806 Eleonore yr=1280 - 0 d'Anjou); 61550 Alfonso yr=1302 - 0; 61565 Isabel yr=1300 - 0; 61567 Leonor yr=1305 - 0
Children: 61561 Alfonso yr=1315 - 0; 61562 Federigo yr=1316 - 0; 61563 Juan yr=1318 - 0

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/barcelona/barcelona3.html

King FEDERIGO of Sicily (1299-1337), born Infant Fadrique of Aragon, *1272, Panterno, nr Catania 25.6.1337, bur Catania; m.Messina 17.5.1302 Eleonore d´Anjou (*VIII.1289, +Monasterio de San Nicola, Arene 9.8.1341, bur Catania), dau.of Charles II King of Sicily; had issue:
* A1. King PIETRO II of Sicily (1337-42), *1304, +Calataxibeta 15.8.1342; m.23.4.1322 Elisabeth of Carinthia (*ca 1298 +after 1347), dau.of Gf Otto II von Tirol
* A2. Ruggiero, *1305, +young
* A3. Manfredo, Duke of Athens and Neopatras, *1306, +Trapani 9.11.1317
* A4. Guglielmo, Pr di Tarento, Duke of Athens and Neopatras, *1312, +22.8.1338, bur Palermo; m.1335 Maria, dau.of Jaime de Aragon, Baron de Ejerica
* A5. Giovanni, Duke of Athens and Neopatras, Regent of Sicily (1338-48), *1317, +Catania of the plague 3.4.1348; m.Cesarea, dau.of Cte Pietro di Castalnasetta
* A6. Constanza, *1303/07, +in Cyprus after 19.6.1344; 1m: St.Sophia, Nicosia 16.10.1317 King Henry II of Cyprus (*1271 +31.3.1324); 2m: 1329/30 King Leon V of Armenia (*1310 +murdered 1341/1377); 3m: 1343 Jean de Lusignan, Pr of Antioch (*1330 +1375)
* A7. Isabella, *1310, +31.3.1349; m.27.6.1328 Duke Stefan II of Bavaria (*1317 +10.5.1375)
* A8. Caterina, Abbess of Santa Chiara de Messina, *1320, +possibly after 1342
* A9. Margareta, *1331, +Neustadt 1349/77; m.X.1348 Rudolf II, Elector Palatine (+1353)
*** King Federigo II had illegitimate issue by Sibilla Sormella:
* A10. Alfonso Fadrique de Aragon, Ct of Malta and Gozzo, Lord of Salona and of certain territories on Greece, +1335/39; m.1317 Marulla, Lady of Aegina, etc, dau.of Bonifacio da Verona, Lord of Negroponte; his descendants took the surname "Fadrique" (de Aragon)
* A11. Sancho de Aragon, Barone de Militello, +1334; m.Macalda Polizzi, sna di Cammarata
* A12. Orlando de Aragon, Barone di Avola, *1296, +k.a.Caltanissetta 1361
o B1. Alfonso, Barone di Avola
o B2. Federigo, Barone di Avola
o B3. Juan, Barone di Avola; m.Giovanna N
* A13. Isabel de Aragon, +1341; 1m: 1313 Ponce Maugalin, Cde de Ampurias (+1322); 2m: Ramon de Peralta, Cte di Caltabellota
* A14. Leonor de Aragon; m.Juan de Chiarmonte, Cde de Modica

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A12 is 61560 Orlando. Everything checks, but we're missing a birthdate of the mother.
http://www.anusha.com/pafg865.htm

Federico King Of SICILY was born in 1272 in Of, Valencia, Valencia, Spain. He died on 25 Jun 1337 in , Palermo, Sicily, Italy. He married Sibilla SORMELLA in Not Married.
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Sibilla SORMELLA was born about 1273 in Of, Catania, Catania, Italy.

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This is a more acceptable birthdate.

Solution: Change birthdate of 61501 Sibilla to 1273.
MC_1337_48
Marie de Valois
Solved with MC_1337_14.
MC_1337_49
Catherine de Valois
Solved with MC_1337_14.
MC_1337_50
Agnes de Périgord
Father: 55561 Helie yr=1296 - 0
Mother: None
Marriage: 61721 Jean yr=1294 - 1336 d'Anjou
Siblings: 55560 Archambaud yr=1319 - 0 (mother 55543 Brunissende yr=1296 - 0 de Foix); 55563 Roger yr=1320 - 0 (mother 55543 Brunissende yr=1296 - 0 de Foix)
Children: 61723 Charles yr=1323 - 0; 61724 Louis yr=1323 - 0; 61725 Robert yr=1326 - 0; 61726 Stéphane yr=1328 - 0

http://a.decarne.free.fr/gencar/dat27.htm#5

Périgord (de), Hélie comte de Périgord Sexe: Masculin
Naissance : vers 1255
Décès : 1315
...
Famille2:
Mariage: 1298
Foix (de), Brunissende Sexe: Féminin
Naissance : vers 1270
Décès : après 1316
Enfant(s):
Périgord (de), Archambaud comte de Périgord
Naissance : vers 1300
Décès : 1335
Périgord (de), Taleiran évêque d'Albe Sexe: Masculin
Naissance : vers 1301

Décès : 1364 à Avignon (84)
Périgord (de), Roger-Bernard comte de Périgord
Naissance : vers 1303
Décès : 1363
Périgord (de), Fortanier chevalier
Périgord (de), Marguerite
Périgord (de), Rosamburge
Périgord (de), Agnès
Naissance : ??
Décès : 1345

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Parents have wrong dates. So do most of the children.

Solution: 61722 Agnes gets a mother 55543 Brunissende. 55543 Brunissende gets a new birthdate 1270 and deathdate 1316. 55561 Helie gets a new birthdate 1255 and deathdate 1315. 55560 Archambaud gets a new birthdate 1300 (I won't kill him before scenario starts). 55563 Roger gets a new birthdate 1303. 55542 Roger-Bernard de Foix (father of 55543 Brunissende) gets a new birthdate 1240 and a new deathdate 1302.

MC_1337_51
Ulrich von Pfirt

Code:

character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 62307 }
	name = "Thiebald"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =12451 }
	country = C253
	religion = catholic
	culture = german
	score = { gold = 25 prestige = 250 piety = 100 }
	[b][u]birthdate = { year = 1258  month = january day = 0 }[/u][/b]
	[b][u]birthdate = { year = 1310  month = january day = 0 }[/u][/b]	

	dna = "05460130405606"
	attributes = {
		martial = 5
		diplomacy = 5
		intrigue = 7
		stewardship = 6
		health = 6
		fertility = 8
	}
	traits = {
		modest = yes
		tough_soldier = yes
	}
}

Poor 62307 Thiebald has two birthdates. I'm gonna guess that the second birthdate is actually his deathdate. This will fix 62034 Ulrich and 62303 Sofie.

Solution: Change 'second birthdate' of 62307 Thiebald to deathdate.

MC_1337_52
Louis de Neuchatel
Father: 62092 Rodolphe yr=1272 - 0
Mother: 62093 Eleonore yr=1280 - 1335 de Savoie
Marriage: 62095 Jeanne de Montfaucon yr=1295 - 1337 NAMELESS
Siblings: None
Children: 62096 Jean yr=1326 - 0; 62097 Isabelle yr=1330 - 0

Nothing found.
MC_1337_53
Eleonor de Savoie
Father: 62150 Amedee yr=1249 - 1323
Mother: 62680 Sibille yr=1269 - 1294 de Bage
Marriage: None
Siblings: 62030 Catherine yr=1292 - 1326 (mother 87055 Marie yr=1279 - 0 de Brabant); 62153 Edouard yr=1284 - 1328; 62154 Aymond yr=1291 - 0; 62157 Anna yr=1306 - 0 (mother 87055 Marie yr=1279 - 0 de Brabant)
Children: 55730 Jean yr=1292 - 0 (father 55731 Guillaume yr=1267 - 1336 de Chalon)

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/savoy/savoy2.html

# A2. Amedeo V "il Grande", Count of Savoy and Aosta (1285-1324), Imperial Vicar of Lombardy, etc., *Bourget-du-Lac 1249, +Avignon 16.10.1323; he established suverainty over the territories of his brothers; 1m: 5.7.1272 Sibylle de Baugé, Dame de Miribel (*1255 +27.5/28.2.1294); 2m: IV.1304 Maria of Brabant (+after 2.11.1338)
* B1. [1m.] Giovanni, +1284
* B2. [1m.] Ct Edoardo "il Liberale" of Savoy, Aosta and Moriana (1323-29), *1284, +Paris 4.11.1329; m.Chateau de Montbard 18.10.1307 Blanche de Bourgogne (*ca 1288, +Digione 18.7.1348)
* B3. [1m.] Ct Aimone I of Savoy, Aosta and Moriana (1329-43), *Chambery 15.12.1291, +Montmelian 22.6.1343; m.1.5.1330 Yolande of Montferrat (*VI.1318 +24.12.1342)
* B4. [1m.] Bona, *ca 1275, +1300; 1m: 1280 Jean de Bourgogne, Dauphin de Viennois (*1264 +24.9.1282); 2m: 5.7.1282/83 Hugues de Bourgogne, sn de Montbauson (+1324)
* B5. [1m.] Beatrice, +ca 1291
* B6. [1m.] Eleonore, +1324; 1m: 12.1.1292 Guillaume I de Chalon, Cte d'Auxerre et de Tonnerre (*1277 +murdered Mons-en-Puelle 9.8.1304); 2m: 1305 Dreux IV de Mello (+1311); 3m: 1311 Cte Jean I de Forez (*1275/76 +3.7.1334)
* B7. [1m.] Margherita, +6.7.1339/6.8.1349; m.23.3.1296 Mgve Jean I of Montferrat (*1277 +9.1.1305)
* B8. [1m.] Agnese, +27.11.1322; m.1297 Ct William III of Geneva (+25.11.1320)
* B9. [2m.] Maria, *1298, +ca 1334; m.9.9.1309 Hugues de La Tour du Pin, Baron de Faucigny (+1329)
* B10. [2m.] Caterina, *ca 1284, +Rheinfelden 30.9.1336, bur Königsfelden; m.Basel 26.5.1315 Duke Leopold I of Austria (*1290 +28.2.1326)
* B11. [2m.] Giovanna, *1306, +1359/60; m.X.1326 Emperor Andronikos III Palaialogos of Byzantium (*ca 1295 +25.6.1341)
* B12. [2m.] Beatrice, *1310, +20.12.1331; m.8.6.1328 Duke Heinrich VI of Carinthia, Ct of Tyrol (+4.4.1335)
* B13. [illegitimate] Arturo

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B6 is 62151 Eleonor. Her mother 62680 Sibille was born in 1255.

Solution: Change birthdate of 62680 Sibille to 1255.
MC_1337_54
Eberhard von Württemberg
Father: 62306 Ulrich yr=1226 - 1265
Mother: None
Marriage: 62301 Irmgard yr=1280 - 1320 of Baden
Siblings: 62315 Irmgard yr=1272 - 1320
Children: 62302 Ulrich yr=1297 - 0

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wurttemb/wurtt1.html

# C2. Gf Ulrich I "mit dem Daumen" von Württemberg (1241-65), *ca 1226, +25.2.1265; 1m: 1251 Mathilde von Baden, heiress of Stuttgart (+1259); 2m: Agnes of Liegnitz (*1245 +13.3.1265)
* D1. [1m.] Gf Ulrich II von Württemberg (1265-79), *1253/54, +18.9.1279
* D2. [2m.] Gf Eberhard I "der Erlauchte" von Württemberg (1279-1325), *13.3.1265, +Stuttgart 5.6.1325; m.before 21.6.1296 Irmgard von Baden (+8.2.1320)
o E1. Ulrich, +1.11.1315; m.Rottenburg 18.12.1291 Irmgard von Hohenberg (+by 26.4.1315)
o E2. Gf Ulrich III von Württemberg (1325-44), +11.7.1344; m.1312 Sofie von Pfirt (+25.3.1344)
o E3. Ulrich, a canon in Speyer fl 1343
o E4. Irmgard, +1329; m.1318 Gf Rudolf I von Hohenberg (+1336)
o E5. Agnes, +by 27.3.1349; m.before 9.11.1317 Gf Heinrich I von Werdenberg
o E6. Adelheid Mechthild, *1295, +13.9.1342, bur Gnadenthal; m.by 21.12.1306 Gf Kraft II von Hohenlohe (*ca 1290, +8.5.1344)
o E7. Agnes, +18.1.1317; m.by 3.3.1313 Gf Ludwig VI von Oettingen (+29.9.1346)
* D3. [1m.] Agnes, +27.9.1305; 1m: before 7.5.1275 Gf Konrad IV von Oettingen (+1276/79); 2m: by 11.1.1282 Friedrich II Gf von Truhendingen (+15.3.1290); 3m: ca 1295 Gf Kraft I von Hohenlohe-Weikersheim (+1322)
* D4. [1m.] Luitgard, +by 24.6.1284; m.by XI.1282 Albrecht von Schenkenberg, Gf von Löwenstein
* D5. [2m.] Irmengard; m.Mgve Hesso von Baden (+1297)

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D2 is 62300 Eberhard. His birthdate is 1265. No dates for D5 Irmengard (62315 Irmgard). Something is fishy there. Maybe Ulrich I had two wives at the same time?

Solution: Change birthdate of 62300 Eberhard to 1265.
MC_1337_55
Sofie von Pfirt
Solved with MC_1337_51.
MC_1337_56
Irmgard von Württemberg
See MC_1337_54.
MC_1337_57
Adelheid von Nassau
Father: 62360 Adolf yr=1255 - 1298
Mother: 62361 Imagina yr=1279 - 1313 van Limburg
Marriage: None
Siblings: 62362 Gerlach yr=1290 - 0; 62377 Adelheid yr=1279 - 1323
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/nassau/nassau1.html

# F2. Gf Adolf von Nassau (1276-98), German King (5.5.1292-23.6.1298), *ca 1255, +k.a.nr Göllheim 2.7.1298, bur Kaiser Dom, Speyer; m.ca 1271 Imagina von Limburg (fl 1279/1317, +29.9.after 1313)
* G1. Heinrich, +young
* G2. Gf Ruprecht, +2.12.1304, bur Prague
* G3. Gf Gerlach I von Nassau in Wiesbaden, Idstein u.Weilburg, and Weilnau (1298-1344) abdicated, +1.1.1361; 1m: 1307 Agnes of Hesse (+13.1.1332); 2m: before 4.1.1337 Irmgard von Hohenlohe-Weikersheim (+11.5.1372)
* G4. Adolf, *1292, +1294
* G5. Gf Walram III von Nassau in Wiesbaden, Idstein u.Weilnau (1298-1324), *1294, +after 22.12.1324
* G6. Adelheid, Abbess of Klarenthal, +26.5.1338
* G7. Imagina, +young
* G8. Matilde, *before 1280, +Heidelberg 19.6.1323, bur Klarenthal bei Wiesbaden; m.Nürnberg 1.9.1294 Duke Rudolf I of Bavaria (*4.10.1274 +12.8.1319)

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G6 is 62376 Adelheid. G8 (Matilde) is 62377 Adelheid. The problem is the mother 62361 Imagina van Limburg who was surely born before 1271 because she was already married in 1271.
http://www.genealogie-mittelalter.d...eutsche_koenigin_1313_limburger_nassauer.html

Imagina von Limburg Deutsche Königin
--------------------------- Gräfin von Nasau
um 1255-29.9. nach 1313
Tochter des Grafen Gerlach I. von Limburg

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I'll take this.

Solution: Change birthdate of 62361 Imagina to 1255.
MC_1337_58
Adelheid von Nassau
Solved with MC_1337_57.
MC_1337_59
Isabelle de Lorraine
Father: 62555 Ferry yr=1239 - 1302
Mother: None
Marriage: None
Siblings: None
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/lorraine/lorraine2.html

Duke Frederick III of Lorraine (1251-1302), *1238/40, +31.12.1302; m.10.7.1255 Margaret of Navarre (+1310)
* A1. Duke Theobald II of Lorraine (1303-21), *1263, +13.5.1312; m.23.5.1278 Isabelle, dau.of Hugues de Rumigny (*VI.1263, +after 7.12.1325)
* A2. Matthias, sn de Beauregard, +drowned 1282; m.1278 Adelaide de Bar (+1307)
* A3. Frederic, Bp of Orleans (1297-99), +murdered 4.6.1299
* A4. Frederic, sn de Plombiéres, de Romont et de Brémoncourt, +by 1320; 1m: Marguerite de Blamont; 2m: Isabelle de Pulligny; all issue by 1m.
* A5. Isabelle, +11.5.1335; 1m: 1287 Duke Ludwig of Bavaria; 2m: Henri de Sully; 3m: 1306 Ct Henry III de Vaudémont (+1348)
* A6. Catherine, Dame de Romont, +after 13.3.1316; m.Strassburg 9.7.1290 Gf Konrad III von Freiburg (+1350)
* A7. Agnés; m.Sire Jean II d'Harcourt (+21.12.1302)
* A8. [illegitimate] Jean de Lorraine "de Neuviller" or "de Toul", +1295; m.Catherine N
* A9. [illegitimate] Colin, fl 1291
* A10. [illegitimate] Isabelle, fl 1291
* A11. [illegitimate] Marguerite, fl 1291

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A5 is 62556 Isabelle. He father seem to have solid dates. No birthdate for 62556 Isabelle.
http://www.thepeerage.com/p4250.htm

Isabelle de Lorraine (F)
b. before 1277, d. 1335, #42499
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Isabelle de Lorraine was born before 1277. She was the daughter of Frederic III, Duc de Lorraine and Margaret de Navarre.

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She was probably borneven earlier (see 1st marraige), but it is sufficient.

Solution: Change birthdate of 62556 Isabelle to 1277.
MC_1337_60
Henry de Vaudemont
Father: 62631 Henry yr=1254 - 1299
Mother: 62640 Hellisende yr=1283 - 1312 de Vergy
Marriage: None
Siblings: None
Children: 62632 Henry yr=1308 - 0 (mother 62640 Hellisende yr=1283 - 1312 de Vergy); 62633 Margeruite yr=1310 - 0 (mother 62640 Hellisende yr=1283 - 1312 de Vergy)

Yes, 62631 Henry has children with his mother 62640 Hellisende...

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/lorraine/lorraine11.html

# G2. Cte Henri II de Vaudémont and Ariano, +k.a.1299; m.before VI.1284 Helissende de Vergy (+1312), dau.of Jean I de Vergy and Marguerite de Noyers
* H1. Cte Henri III de Vaudémont, +1348; m.1306 Isabelle of Lorraine (+1335)
o I1. Cte Henri IV de Vaudémont, +k.a.Crécy 26.8.1346
o I2. Marguerite; m.1322 Anceau de Joinville
* H2. Isabelle, a nun in Soissons
* H3. Jeanne, Abbess of Remiremont 1324, +there 20.4.1347
* H4. Margaret, +by 1336; 1m: 1301 Jean de Joinville; 2m: Erard Sire de Nanteuil-la-Fosse

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H1 is 62630 Henry. Mother of his children is definitely not 62640 Hellisende de Vergy, but Isabelle of Lorraine. There are no birthdates for 62630 Henry and his mother 62640 Hellisende.

http://herve.gros.nom.fr/genanglais/html/dat40.htm#2

DE VERGY, Hélissende
Birth : @#DJULIAN@ about 1267
Death : @#DJULIAN@ 1312

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This will fix the problem nicely.

Solution: Change birthdate of 62640 Hellisende to 1267. Change 62641 Jean to yr=1235-1320 (father of 62640 Hellisende). Add marriage between 62630 Henry and 62556 Isabelle de Lorraine starting in 1306. 62632 Henry and 62633 Margeruite get a new mother 62556 Isabelle de Lorraine.
MC_1337_61
Phillippe de Piemont
Father: 62692 Thomas yr=1248 - 1274
Mother: None
Marriage: 62700 Catherine yr=1294 - 0 de la Tour du Pin
Siblings: None
Children: 62690 Jaques yr=1315 - 0; 62693 Amedee yr=1316 - 0; 62694 Alice yr=1302 - 0 (no mother); 62695 Thomas yr=1329 - 0; 62696 Eduard yr=1327 - 0; 62697 Aymond yr=1333 - 0; 62698 Eleonore yr=1314 - 0; 62699 Jeanne yr=1316 - 0; 62702 Beatrice yr=1312 - 0; 62703 Agnes yr=1328 - 0; 62704 Isabelle yr=1333 - 0

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/savoy/savoy2.html

# A1. Tomaso III, Signore del Piemonte (1259-82), *VIII.1248, +16.5.1282; m.V.1274 Guye de Chalon (+24.6.1316)
* B1. Filippo I, Signore del Piemonte (1282-1334), Pr of Achaia (1301-07) -his rule there was marked by despotism and self-interest, and he was finally forced out by the Angevin Kings of Naples, *1278, +25.9.1334; 1m: Roma 12.2.1301 Isabelle de Villehardouin, Pss of Achaia and Morea (*ca 1263, +23.1.1312); 2m: after 7.5.1312 Catherine de la Tour du Pin (+9.12.1337)
o C1. [actually he was apparently from 2m.] Giacomo, titular Pr of Achaia, sovereign Prince of Piedmont (1334-67), *6/16.1.1315, +17.5.1367; 1m: 1338 Beatrice d'Este (+10/13.2.1339); 2m: 9.6.1339 Sibylle des Baux (+1361/62); 3m: 16.7.1362 Marguerite de Beaujeu (*20.10.1346 +I.1402)
o C2. [1m.] Amedeo, Bp of Moriana (Maurienne) and Lausanne, +13.6.1376
o C3. [1m.] Maria, *1301, +after 1308
o C4. [1m.] Alice, +1368; 1m: before 14.12.1325 Manfredo del Carretto, Mgve of Savona; 2m: 1354 Antelmo d'Urtieres
o C5. [1m.] a daughter, m.1306 Charles d'Anjou, Pr of Achaia (+1315)
o C6. [1m.] Margherita, *1303, +after 8.12.1371; m.VI.1324 Cte Renaud de Forez, sn de Malaval (+1369)
o C7. [2m.] Tommaso, Bp of Turin and Aosta 1355, *1329, +after 6.10.1360
o C8. [2m.] Edoardo, a monk in Cluny, Abbot in San Giusto 1366, Bp of Belley and Sion, Archbishop of Tarantasia (1390-95), Signore di Conteis e Chillon 1370, +1395
o C9. [2m.] Aimone, *after 9.6.1330, +after 13.3.1398; m.1398 Mencia di Ceva (+after 11.1.1434), dau.of ddone Marchese di Ceva by Eleonora di Saluzzo
o C10. [2m.] Eleonora, +X.1350; m.1333 Mgve Manfredo V di Saluzzo (+after 8.8.1389)
o C11. [2m.] Giovanna, +after 3.11.1355; m.before 22.5.1330 Cte Aime de Poitiers (+1349/50)
o C12. [2m.] Beatrice, *1312, +1340; m.1334 Humbert VI de Thoire et Villars (+1372)
o C13. [2m.] Agnese; m.I.1343 Jean de la Chambre, Cte de Laville (+after 22.11.1355)
o C14. [2m.] Isabela/Elizabeth, Abbess of St.Jacques, Pignerol, +ca 1370
o C15. [illegitimate] Beatrice; m.Guglielmo Pettit di Villafranca
o C16. [illegitimate] Francesca; m.Martino di Machierat
o C17. [illegitimate by Serena della Perosa] Antonio Coqui, a priest, legitimized
o C18. [illegitimate] Anselmo "il Bastardo d'Acaia", Signore di Altezzano Inferiore e Collegno; m.Isondina N
* B2. Pietro, Archbishop of Lyon (1307-32), +XI.1332
* B3. Tommaso, a canon in Amiens, Bp of Turin, +after 1340
* B4. Amedeo, Archdeacon of Rheims, +after 1340
* B5. Guglielmo, abbot of San Michele della Chiusa, +ca 1326

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B1 is 62691 Phillippe. The only thing wrong is a deathdate of his father 62692 Thomas which should be 1282 (note the end of his rule and start of rule for 62691 Phillippe). The mother is probably wrong for some of his children, but I don't care.

Solution: Change deathdate of 62692 Thomas to 1282.
MC_1337_62
Heinrich von Wittelsbach
Father: 62756 Otto yr=1173 - 1231
Mother: None
Marriage: None
Siblings: 62750 Ludwig yr=1229 - 1294
Children: 62758 Stefan yr=1271 - 1310

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wittel/wittel1.html

F1. Duke Otto II "der Erlauchte" Bavaria (1231-53), Pfgf (1227-53), *Kelheim 7.4.1206, +Landshut 29.11.1253, bur Scheyern; m.Worms 1222 Pfgfn Agnes bei Rhein (*after 1201 +1267)
o G1. Duke Ludwig II "der Strenge" of Upper Bavaria (1253-94), Pfgf bei Rhein (1253-94), *Heidelberg 13.4.1229, +there 2.2.1294, bur Fürstenfeld; 1m: 1254 Maria of Brabant (*1226 +beheaded at Donauwörth 1256, bur there); 2m: 1260 Anna of Glogau (*1250/52, +1271, bur Fürstenfeld); 3m: Aachen 24/27.10.1273 Mechtild von Habsburg (*1251/53 +23.12.1304, bur Fürstenfeld)

o G2. Duke Heinrich XIII of Lower Bavaria (1253-90), *Landshut 19.11.1235, +Burghausen 3.2.1290, bur Seligenthal; m.1244/50 Elisabeth of Hungary (*1236 +24.10.1271)
+ H1. Duke Otto III of Lower Bavaria (1290-1312), King of Hungary (1305-07) as Béla III -cr 5.12.1305, *Burghausen 11.2.1261, +Landshut 9.9.1312, bur Seligenthal; 1m: Vienna 1279 Katharina von Habsburg (*1256 +4.4.1282); 2m: Straubing II.1308 Agnes von Glogau (*1293/96 +25.12.1361 bur Seligenthal)
+ H2. Heinrich, *23.2.1262, +16.9.1280, bur Seligenthal
+ H3. Duke Ludwig III of Lower Bavaria (1290-96), *9.10.1269, +Landshut 13.5.1296, bur Seligenthal
+ H4. Duke Stephan I of Lower Bavaria (1290-1310), *14.3.1271, +of the plague at Landshut 21.12.1310, bur Seligenthal; m.1299 Jutta of Schweidnitz (*1285/7 +Landshut 15.9.1320, bur Seligenthal)
+ H5. Agnes, *I.1254, +Kloster Seligenthal 20.10.1315, bur there
+ H6. Agnes, *17.7.1255, +10.5.1260, bur Seligenthal
+ H7. Agnes, *29.10.1256, +Landshut 16.11.1260, bur Seligenthal
+ H8. Elisabeth, a nun at Seilgenthal, *23.4.1258, +there 8.8.1314, bur there
+ H9. Sophie, *ca 1264, +4.2.1282, bur Kloster Vessera bei Erfurt; m.Landshut 1277 Gf Poppo VIII von Henneberg (+1282)
+ H10. Katharina, *9.6.1267, +Seilgenthal 9.1.1310, bur there; m.Mgve Friedrich of Meissen-Landsberg (+1291)
o G3. Elisabeth, *Landshut ca 1227, +9.10.1273, bur Stams, Tirol; 1m: Vohburg 1246 Konrad IV von Staufen, German King (*25.4.1228 +21.5.1254); 2m: Munich 1259 Gf Meinhard IV von Görz und Tirol, Duke of Carinthia (*ca 1235 +1295)
o G4. Sophie, *Landshut XII.1236, +Schloß Hirschberg 9.8.1289, bur Eichstätt; m.1258 Gf Gerhard IV von Sulzbach und Hirschberg (*ca 1220 +Schloss Hirschberg 1275)
o G5. Agnes, *ca 1240, +Munich 7.12. ca 1306, bur Seilgenthal

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G2 is 62757 Heinrich. Birthdate and deathdate of his father 62756 Otto are wrong. Those are dates of 62756 Otto's father Ludwig (not in the game).

Solution: Change birthdate of 62756 Otto to 1206 and deathdate to 1253.

unmerged(11427) · Apr 25, 2006

MC solutions for 1337 scenario (Part 3)

MC_1337_63
Mathilde of Braunschweig
Father: 62821 Albrecht yr=1268 - 1318
Mother: 62822 Rixa yr=1269 - 1320 von Werle
Marriage: None
Siblings: 62823 Otto yr=1290 - 0; 62824 Albrecht yr=1293 - 0; 62825 Heinrich yr=1296 - 0; 62826 Magnus yr=1304 - 0; 62829 Ernst yr=1305 - 0; 62830 Johann yr=1307 - 0
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/welf/welf3.html

# A2. Duke Albrecht II of Braunschweig-Göttingen (1279-1318), *ca 1268, +22.9.1318; m.10.1.1284 Rixa (+after 2.10.1312), dau.of Fst Heinrich I von Werl
* B1. Duke Otto of Braunschweig-Göttingen (1318-44), *25.3.1290, +Göttingen 30.8.1344; 1m: 24.3./2.10.1311 Jutta of Hesse (+13.10.1317); 2m: 16.9./22.12.1319 Agnes of Brandenburg (*1297 +28.11.1334), dau.of Mgve Hermann of Brandenburg
* B2. Albrecht, Bp of Halberstadt (1325-57), +13.10.1359
* B3. Wilhelm, a Teutonic Knight, *ca 1295, +by 1318
* B4. Heinrich, Bp of Hildesheim (1354-63), *1296/97, +6.2.1363
* B5. Bruno, *1303, +31.10.1306
* B6. Duke Magnus I of Braunschweig-Göttingen (1318/45-69), *ca 1304, +15.6./15.8.1369; m.1327 Sofie (*1300 +1356), dau.of Mgve Heinrich I of Brandenburg
* B7. Duke Ernst of Braunschweig-Göttingen (1345-66), *ca 1305, +13.7.1366; m.by 2.3.1340 Elisabeth of Hesse (+7.3.1390)
* B8. Johann, a Teutonic Knight, fl 1309/47
* B9. Lüder, *ca 1309, +after 17.5.1319
* B10. Adelheid, *25.3.1290, +14.3./12.10.1311; m.VIII.1306 Ldgve Johann of Hesse (+Kassel 16.2.1311)
* B11. Richenza, *1298, +by 26.4.1317
* B12. Matilde, +after 1.6.1356; m.bx 1341 Gf Heinrich V von Honstein (+1356)
* B13. Jutta, Elekta of Gandersheim 1319, *1300, +1332

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B12 is 62831 Mathilde. Father's deathdate seems solid, mother's is unknown. Also the birthdate of Mathilde is unknown.

http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mila46&id=I10899

# Name: Duke Albrecht II of Braunschweig-Göttingen
# Birth: 18 SEP 1268
# Death: 22 SEP 1318
Marriage Princess Richza of Werle b: 1270
Children
1. Princess Adelheid of Braunschweig-Göttingen b: 25 MAR 1290
2. Duke Otto II of Braunschweig-Göttingen b: 24 JUN 1292
3. Princess Mathilde of Braunschweig-Göttingen b: 1293
4. Bishop Albrecht II of Halberstadt b: 1294
5. Duke Wilhelm of Braunschweig-Göttingen b: 1295
6. Bishop Heinrich III of Hildesheim b: 1297
7. Princess Richenza of Braunschweig-Göttingen b: 1298
8. Duke Johann of Braunschweig-Göttingen b: 1300
9. Duke Bruno of Braunschweig-Göttingen b: 1303
10. Duke Magnus I of Braunschweig b: 1304
11. Duke Lüder of Braunschweig-Göttingen b: 1307
12. Princess Jutta of Braunschweig-Göttingen b: 1309
13. Duke Ernst I of Braunschweig-Göttingen b: 1305

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I think this solves the problem nicely. Mathilde is born in 1293.

Solution: Change birthdate of 62831 Mathilde to 1293.
MC_1337_64
Elisabeth of Braunschweig
Father: 62832 Johann yr=1242 - 1277
Mother: 62833 Luitgard yr=1251 - 1289 von Holstein
Marriage: 62915 Johann yr=1272 - 1316 von Oldenburg
Siblings: 62834 Otto yr=1272 - 1330
Children: 62910 Konrad yr=1294 - 0; 62917 Johann yr=1293 - 0; 62909 Gisela yr=1310 - 0

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/welf/welf2.html

# G3. Duke Johann of Lüneburg, *ca 1242, +13.12.1277; m.1265 Liutgard of Holstein (+after 28.2.1289)
* H1. Duke Otto II of Lüneburg, +9/10.4.1330; 1m: N, a dau.of Gf Otto von Oldenburg; 2m: 1288 Matilde of Bavaria (*1275 +L�neburg 28.3.1319); all kids were by 2m.
* H2. Matilde, +after 1308; m.1291 Fst Heinrich I von Werl (+8.1.1291)
* H3. Elisabeth, +1294/98; m.before 7.3.1294 Gf Johann II of Oldenburg (+1314/15)
* H4. Agnes, +by 27.6.1297/ca 1314; m.ca 1283 Werner I von Hadmersleben (+before 1293)
* H5. Helene; m.by 1315 Gf Konrad III von Wernigerode (+22.7.1339)
* H6. [illegitimate] Heinrich von Braunschweig, a canon in Walsrode, +by 23.8.1324

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H3 is 62846 Elisabeth. Her father seems to have solid dates. I don't know about 62846 Elisabeth's birthdate. Technically it is possible.

Solution: Leave them as they are.
MC_1337_65
Ingeborg von Holstein
Solved with MC_1337_6.
MC_1337_66
Maria von Kleve
Father: 62920 Dietrich yr=1290 - 0
Mother: 56555 Margarete yr=1290 - 1333 of Gelre
Marriage: None
Siblings: 62921 Margarethe yr=1316 - 0; 62922 Elisabeth yr=1324 - 0
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/cleves/cleves1.html

# G4. [2m.] Ct Dietrich VIII of Cleves (1311-46), *1291, +7.7.1346; 1m: 7.5.1308 Margaret of Geldern (+1333); 2m: 1340 Maria von Jülich
* H1. Margaret of Cleves; m.1332 Ct Adolf III von der Mark (+1347)
* H2. Elisabeth of Cleves, +1382; 1m: 1332 Gerhard van Voorne (+ca 1337); 2m: 1338 Landgrave Otto of Hesse
* H3. Maria of Cleves

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H3 is 62923 Maria. Deathdate of the mother is OK. No birthdate for 62923 Maria. There is also a possibility of a different mother.
MC_1337_67
Michael Palaiologos
Father: 65521 Andronikos yr=1270 - 1328
Mother: 65522 Yolanda yr=1274 - 1317 de Montferratto
Marriage: 65911 Rita yr=1283 - 0 Hetoumi
Siblings: 65520 Theodoros yr=1291 - 0
Children: 65500 Andronikos yr=1296 - 0; 65515 Theodora yr=1298 - 0; 65516 Anna yr=1298 - 1321

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/byzant/byzant8.html

# B2. ANDRONIKOS II Palaiologos, Emp of Byzantium (1282-1328), *25.3.1259, +Monte Athos 13.2.1332; 1m: 1273 Anna (+1281/2) dau.of King Stephen V of Hungary; 2m: 1285 Yolanda=Eirene of Montferrat (*1274 +1317)
* C1. [1m.] MICHAÉL IX Palaiologos, co-emperor of Byzantium (1295-1320), *1277, +12.10.1320; m.1295 Rita of Armenia (*1278 +VII.1333)
o D1. ANDRONIKOS III Palaiologos, Emp of Byzantium (1328-41), *1296, +15.7.1341; 1m: 1318 Adelaide=Eirene von Braunschweig (+1324); 2m: 1326 Joanna=Anna of Savoy (*1306 +1359/60) - Regent of Byzantium (1341-47)
o D2. Manuel Palaiologos, +killed by soldiers 1319
o D3. Anna Despoina Palaiologina, +1321; 1m: 1313 Thomas Angelos, Despot of Epirus and Aetolia (+1318); 2m: 1318 Nikolaos Orsini, Ct of Cephallenia
o D4. Theodora Palaiologina; 1m: 1320 Tsar Todor Swetoslav of Bulgaria (+1321); 2m: after VIII.1324 Tsar Michael III of Bulgaria (+1330)
* C2. [1m.] Konstantinos Palaiologos, despot of Thessalonica, +after 1329; 1m: 1295 Theodora Muzalon; 2m: Eudokia Neokaisareitissa
* C3. [2m.] Ioannes Palaiologos, Despot of Thessalonica, *1286, +1307; m.1303 Eirene Chumnaina (*1292, +1360)
* C4. [2m.] Theodoros Palaiologos, Marquis de Montferrat (1306-38), *Constantinople 1291, +Casale 21.4.1338, he inherted his mothers margravate of Montferrat; m.Hagia Sophia, Constantinople IX.1307 Argentina Spinola (+before 1338), dau.of Obizino di Corrado Spinola, Duke of Genoa by Violante di Saluzzo; for his issue see HERE
* C5. [2m.] Demetrios Angelodukas Palaiologos, +after 1343
* C6. [2m.] Bartholomaios, +young
* C7. [2m.] Isaakios, +young
* C8. [2m.] Theodora, +young
* C9. [2m.] Simonis, *1292/93, +after 1336; m.1300 King Stepan Uros II of Serbia (+29.10.1321)
* C10. [illegitimate] Maria; m.Tochtu Khan of the Golden Horde
* C11. [illegitimate] Eirene; m.1315 Ioannes Dukas Angelos, Archon of Neiapatrai

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C1 is 65501 Michael. His dates are OK. The parents are all wrong. Father 65521 Andronikos (B2) was born in 1259 and died in 1332. 65501 Michael's mother is not 65522 Yolanda, but some Anna. Mother of his brother is OK.

Here is info about Anna, showing she was born in 1260.

H6. Anna (Ágnes), *ca 1260, +ca 1281; m.1272 Andronikos II Palaiologos, Emperor of Byzantium (*25.3.1259 +13.2.1332)

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. It seems that she does not appear in the game.

Solution: Change birthdate of 65521 Andronikos to 1259. Chnage deathdate of 65521 Andronikos to 1332. 65501 Michael loses a reference to mother.
MC_1337_68
Andronikos Asen
Father: 65551 Ivan yr=1250 - 1335
Mother: 65526 Eirene yr=1280 - 0 Palaiologos
Marriage: None
Siblings: 65560 Isaakios yr=1282 - 0
Children: 65552 Ivan yr=1300 - 0; 65553 Manuel yr=1302 - 0; 65554 Irina yr=1303 - 0; 65555 Elena yr=1305 - 0

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/balkan/balkan9.html

# D1. Iwan Asen III Mytzes, Tsar of the Bulgarians (1279-80), fled from Iwailo to the Tatars and then to Constantinople, +ca 1302; m.1278 Irene Palaiologina; their children took the surname Asan
* E1. Michael Asanes, a military leader in Macedonia for the Byzantines, then supported Serbia
* E2. Andronikos Asanes, Despot of Morea, Stattholder of Thrace, +after 1355; m.N, a dau.of Michael Dukas Glabas Tarchaneitos
o F1. Manuel Komnenos Raul Asanes, Stattholder of Bizye, Thrace; m.ca 1321 Anna, dau.of Theodoros Synadenos
o F2. Joannes Assanes, Stattholder of Constantinople; m.ca 1347 N, a dau.of Alexios Apokaukos
o F3. Irene, Empress of Byzantium -cr 21.5.1347, later a nun under the name of Eugenia after 10.12.1354, *ca 1300, +btw IV.1363-1379; m.before 1320 Emperor Ioannes VI Kantakuzenos of Byzantium (*1292, +15.3.1382)
o F4. Helene Asanina, +young
* E3. Isaakios Asanes, a mercantile leader in Constantinople, +ca 1351; 1m: before 1320 Theodora, dau.of the Tatar Khan Abaga; 2m: NN; all kids were 2m.
* E4. Konstantinos Asanes
* E5. Manuel Asanes
* E6. Theodora Asanina; (m.Manuel Tagaris)
* E7. Maria Asanina; m.Roger de Flor, a Catalonian leader
* E8. Anna Asanina, engaged to Michael Dukas Angelos, of Neopatrai

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E2 is 65550 Andronikos. No usefull dates apart from the marriage between of Iwan III and Irene (1278).

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=labron0&id=I6784

Irini PALAEOLOGA
# Birth: ABT 1262 in of Constantinople, Byzantine Empire 1
Marriage: Ivan Asen III TSAR OF BULGARIA b: ABT 1260
* Married: ABT 1278 2
Children
1. Andronikos Palaeologus ASANES b: ABT 1281

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Birthdate of 65526 Eirene should be 1262.

Solution: Change birthdate of 65526 Eirene to 1262.
MC_1337_69
Isaakios Asen
Solved with MC_1337_68.
MC_1337_70
Anna Terter
Father: 67530 Georgi yr=1251 - 1292
Mother: None
Marriage: 68505 Stefan Uros yr=1260 - 1321 Nemanjic
Siblings: None
Children: 68510 Stefan Uros yr=1285 - 1331; 68511 Anna Neda yr=1279 - 0

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/balkan/balkan21.html

# A1. George I Terter, Tsar of the Bulgarians (1280-92), +after 1304; 1m: Keramarija, dau.of Iwan of Bulgaria; 2m: Marija N; all kids by 2m.
* B1. Todor Swetoslaw, Tsar of the Bulgarians (1299-1321), +1321; 1m: Jefrosina, dau.of Mankus, a merchant; 2m: 1320 Theodora of Byzantium
* B2. Anna, +after 1304; 1m: 1284 King Stefan Uros II of Serbia, who repudiated her 1294; 2m: 1301 Demetrios Dukas Kutrules Angelos (+after 1304)
* B3. a daughter; m.1285 Chaka Khan, who ruled briefly as Tsar in 1298

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B2 is Anna 67531. No usefull dates.

http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cousin/html/p279.htm#i16828

George Terter of Bulgaria
b. circa 1234
Tsar of Bulgaria.1 George Terter of Bulgaria was born circa 1234.
Child of George Terter of Bulgaria:
Ana of Bulgaria b. c 1264

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I'll go with this.

Solution: Change birthdate of 67530 Georgi to 1234.
MC_1337_71
Charles Martell d'Anjou
Father: 61710 Charles yr=1254 - 1309
Mother: 61711 Maria yr=1257 - 1323 of Hungary
Marriage: 69521 Klementia yr=1262 - 1295 von Habsburg
Siblings: 55805 Marguerite yr=1273 - 1299; 55806 Eleonore yr=1280 - 0; 61700 Robert yr=1277 - 0; 61712 Philippe yr=1278 - 1332; 61721 Jean yr=1294 - 1336; 61727 Blanche yr=1280 - 1310
Children: 69500 Charles yr=1288 - 0

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet19.html

# A2. King Charles II "le Boiteux" of Naples and Jerusalem (1285-1309), Ct of Provence, *1254, +Casanova 6.5.1309, bur Aix-en-Provence; m.1270 Maria of Hungary (*ca 1257 +25.3.1323)
* B1. Charles I Martell, *8.9.1271, +Naples 12/19.8.1295, bur Santa Domenico, Naples; m.Vienna 11.1.1281 Klementia von Habsburg (*ca 1262, +after 7.2.1293, bur Santa Domenico, Naples)
o C1. King Charles Robert of Hungary (1308-42) as Károly I Róbert -cr 1310, *1288, +Visegrad 16.7.1342, bur Székesfehérvár; 1m: Maria of Halicz, dau.of Pr Lev II of Halicz; 2m: 1306 Maria of Silesia-Beuthen (+Temesvár 15.12.1315, bur Székesfehérvár); 3m: 24.6.1318 Beatrix de Luxembourg (*1305 +11.11.1319) dau.of Emperor Heinrich VII; 4m: 6.7.1320 Queen Elisabeth of Poland (*1305 +29.12.1380)
o C2. Beatrix, *III/IV.1290, +Grenoble 1354; m.25.5.1296 Jean II, Dauphin de Viennois (*1274 +4.3.1319)
o C3. Clemence, *II.1293, +Paris 12.10.1328, bur St.Jacques, Paris; m.Paris 19.8.1315 King Louis X of France (*4.10.1289 +5.6.1316)
* B2. Pr Louis of Naples, Bp of Toulouse, *Nocera 9.2.1275, +Chateau de Brignolles 19.8.1298, bur there
* B3. King Robert I "le Bon" of Naples and Jerusalem (1309-43), Ct of Provence, *1277, +Castelnuovo, Naples 16/19.1.1343, bur there; 1m: Rome 23.3.1297 Yolanda d'Aragon (*1273 +Termini 1302/03); 2m: 21.6.1304 Sancha (*ca 1285 +Naples 28.7.1345) dau.of King Jaime II of Majorca
* B4. Philip, Pr of Tarento, Despot of Romania, Lord of Durazzo, Pr of Achaia, titular Emperor of Constantinople 1313, *10.11.1278, +Naples 26.12.1332; 1m: L'Aquila IX.1294 (div 1309) Thamar Komnene Dukaina, Despota of Epirus (*1277 +1311); 2m: Fontainebleau 6.4./30.7.1313 Catherine II de Valois, titular Empress of Constantinople, Pss of Achaia (*1303 +20.9./X.1346)
* B5. Raimond Berengar, Cte de Provence, Pr of Piedmont and Andria, *1281, +1307
* B6. Jean, a priest, *1283, +after 16.3.1308
* B7. Tristan, *1284, +1284/88
* B8. Pietro, Cte di Gravina, *1292, +k.a.Monte Catino 29.8.1315
* B9. Giovanni, Duke of Durazzo, Pr of Achaia, etc, *1294, +Naples 5.4.1336, bur there; 1m: III.1318 (div 1321) Mathilde d'Avesnes (*29.11.1293 +1336), dau.of Florenz of Hainaut, Pr of Achaia; 2m: 14.11.1321 Agnes (+1345, bur Naples) dau.of Elvas VII de Périgord
* B10. Marguerite, Cts d'Anjou et de Maine, *1273, +31.12.1299, bur Paris; m.Corbeil 16.8.1290 Cte Charles I de Valois (*12.3.1270 +16.12.1325)
* B11. Blanca, *1280, +Barcelona 14.10.1310, bur Santa Croce; m.Villebertran 1.11.1295 King Jaime II of Aragon (*10.8.1267 +5.11.1327)
* B12. Leonora, *VIII.1289, +Monasterio de San Nicola, Arene 9.8.1341, bur Catania; m.Messina 17.5.1302 King Federigo I of Sicily (*1272 +Panterno 25.6.1336, bur Catania)
* B13. Maria, *1290, +IV.1346/I.1347; 1m: Palma de Majorca 20.9.1304 King Sancho I of Majorca (*1276 +Formigueras 4.9.1324); 2m: 1326 Jaime de Ejerica (*1298, +11/28.4.1335)
* B14. Beatrice, *1295, +1320/21, bur Andria; 1m: IV.1305 Mgve Azzo VIII d'Este (+1308); 2m: 1309 Bertrand III de Baux, Cte d'Andria (+1351)

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B1 is 69520 Charles Martell. His parents' birth and deathdates are OK. 69520 Charles Martell's birthdate should be 1271 and deathdate 1295.

Solution: Change birthdate of 69520 Charles Martell to 1271 and deathdate to 1295.
MC_1337_72
Juraj Subic
Father: 70001 Pavao yr=1250 - 1274
Mother: None
Marriage: None
Siblings: 70000 Mladen yr=1270 -0; 70003 Pavao yr=1280 - 0
Children: 70004 Pavao yr=1290 - 0; 70006 Katalin yr=1291 - 0; 70008 Deodat yr=1290 - 0; 70009 Mladen yr=1292 - 0; 70010 Jelena yr=1311 - 0

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/balkan/subich2.html

# A1. Pavao I, Ban (viceroy) of Dalmatia and Bosnia, *1245, +V.1312; m.Ursa N (+5.10.1303)
* B1. Mladen II, Ban of Croatia, *ca 1270, +1343
* B2. Juraj II, Ct of Bribir, Comes of Spalato, *ca 1275, +XII.1330
o C1. Pavao III, fl 1342/56; m.Caterina Dandolo
o C2. Katalin; m.Ivan Jurisic Bribirski
o C3. Deodat, +1348
o C4. Mladen III, +V.1348; m.Jelena of Serbia
o C5. Jelena, *ca 1306, +after 1378; m.Klis 1338 Vladislav Kotromanic, Regent of Bosnia
* B3. Pavao II, +VII.1346; m.Erzsébet Frangepán (+after 1347)
* B4. Gergely, Ct of Sebenico

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B2 is 70002 Juraj. All that needs fixing are the dates of his father.

Solution: Change birthdate of 70001 Pavao to 1245 and deathdate to 1312.
MC_1337_73
Pavao Subic
Solved with MC_1337_72.
MC_1337_74
Miklós Viczay
Father: 70094 Beled Viczay yr=1234 - 1300 Osli
Mother: None
Marriage: None
Siblings: 70096 Imre yr=1277 - 1310; 70097 János yr=1280 - 1320; 70098 Beled yr=1286 - 0
Children: 70099 János yr=1290 - 1333

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/hung/viczay1.html

Beled Vicai de Lózs, (Viczay de Loos), fl 1237-91, had issue:
* A1. Miklós
o B1. János, fl 1309
* A2. Imre, fl 1309
* A3. János, fl 1309
* A4. Beled, fl 1309-49
* A5. László, fl 1309

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A1 is 70095 Miklós. No usefull dates. He should be born about the same time when his siblings (probably as the first son).
MC_1337_75
Pona NAMELESS
Father: 70190 Ábrahám yr=1266 - 1307 Szentgyörgyi
Mother: None
Marriage: 70191 Péter yr=1297 - 0 Szentgyörgyi
Siblings: 70191 Péter yr=1297 - 0; 70192 Sebes yr=1298 - 0
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/hung/stgeorg2.html

D2. Ábrahám, +1306/07
* E1. Tamás, fl 1296-1316
* E2. Péter de Szentgyörgy, Obergespan of Bereg, +ca 1367; 1m: NN; 2m: NN
* E3. Sebes de Szentgyörgy, fl 1304-53; m.Klára Balassa

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70194 Pona is not part of this family (apart maybe by marriage).

Solution: Remove reference to father for 70194 Pona.
MC_1337_76
Boleslaw Piast
Father: 71732 Henryk yr=1248 - 1296
Mother: 71733 Elzbieta yr=1263 - 1304 Premyslid
Marriage: None
Siblings: 71729 Euphemia yr=1287 - 0; 71730 Boleslaw yr=1291 - 0; 71736 Wladyslaw yr=1296 - 0
Children: 71710 Bernard yr=1288 - 1326

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/piast/piast4.html

# E1. Duke Henryk V "Gruby" (Heinrich V "the Fat") of Liegnitz 1278, Jauern 1274 and Breslau 1290, *1248/50, +22.2.1296, bur Sw.Klara, Breslau; m.1277/79 Elzbieta of Great Poland (*1263 +28.9.1304)
* F1. Duke Boleslaw III "Szczodry" of Breslau, Liegnitz and Brieg (1311-42), *23.9.1291, +Brzeg n.O. 21.4.1352, bur Lubiaz; 1m: 1308/10 Margareta of Bohemia (*21.2.1296 +8.4.1322); 2m: 1326 Katharina Subic (+1358); for his issue see HERE
* F2. Duke Henryk VI of Breslau 1311, *18.3.1294, +24.11.1335, bur St.Clara, Breslau; m.Breslau 1310 Anna of Austria (*1280 +19.3.1327)
* F3. Duke Wladislaw of Liegnitz 1311, *6.6.1296, +13.1.after 1352; m.after 13.8.1325 (div before 13.1.1329) Anna of Masovia
* F4. Jadwiga, a nun at St.Clara, Breslau, +after 3.2.1343; m.1289/95 Otto of Brandenburg (+1295)
* F5. Euphemia, +VI.1347; m.ca 1300 Duke Otto II of Carinthia, Ct of Tyrol and Görz (+25.5.1310)
* F6. Anna, Abbess of St.Clara in Breslau, *1284, +2.10.1343
* F7. Elisabeth, Abbess of St.Clara in Breslau, +1357/58
* F8. Helena, a nun at St.Clara in Gnesen, +after 1299
# E2. Duke Boleslaw I "Wielki" of Jauer and Schweidnitz (1278-1301), *ca 1270, +9.11.1301; m.1281 Beatrix of Brandenburg (*1270 +1312/16)
* F1. Boleslaw, *1285/90, +30.1.1320
* F2. Duke Bernard "Stateczny" of Schweidnitz (1301-26), *1288/91, +6.5.1326; m.ca 1310 Kunigunde of Poland (+1333)
* F3. Duke Henryk I of Jauer (1301-46), *1292/96, +6.3.-15.5.1346; m.1319 Agnes of Bohemia (*15.6.1305 +4.1.1337)
* F4. Duke Boleslaw II of Münsterberg, *1300, +Ziebice 11.6.1341; m.before 21.11.1321 Guta (+1342) dau.of Louis of Savoy, Baron de Vaud
* F5. Jutta, *1285/87, +15.9.1320; m.1299 Duke Stephen II of Lower Bavaria (+1310)
* F6. Elisabeth, *and +before 1300 /OR/ +1350/56; m.ca 1315 Wartislaw IV of Rugen (+1.8.1326)
* F7. Anna, Abbess of St.Clara in Strehlen 1327, *1298/99, +6.3.1332-24.6.1334
* F8. Katharina

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OK, too many Boleslaws. F1 (son of E1) is 71730 Boleslaw and E2 (brother of E1) is problematic 71711 Boleslaw. All dates are OK, but relations are not. The error was caused by Boleslaw overload.

Solution: Change father of 71711 Boleslaw to 71734 Boleslaw. Also remove the reference to mother for 71711 Boleslaw.That would make him a brother of 71732 Henryk as it should be.
MC_1337_77
Napoleone Orsini
Father: 78504 Rinaldo yr=1291 - 0
Mother: None
Marriage: None
Siblings: None
Children: None

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11325b.htm

NAPOLEONE ORSINI, son of Rinaldo, a brother of Pope Nicholas III, b. 1263; d. at Avignon, 24 March, 1342.

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No birthdate for Rinaldo. I have a feeling that 78504 Rinaldo is not supposed to be the one mentioned in the quote...
MC_1337_78
Jeanne de Valois
Father: 55509 Phillippe yr=1278 - 1323
Mother: 55741 Jeanne yr=1292 - 1330 de Chalon
Marriage: 55910 Eudes yr=1295 - 0 de Bourgogne
Siblings: 55411 Isabelle yr=1312 - 0; 55412 Blanche yr=1314 - 0; 55508 Marguerite yr=1310 - 0
Children: 55912 Philippe yr=1323 - 0

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet5.html

# E2. King PHILIPPE V "le Long" of France (6.1.1316-1322) and Navarre (1316-22) =Felipe II, Cte de Champagne at de Brie, Cte de Poitiers 1311, *1291, +Longchamps 3.1.1322, bur St.Denis; m.Corbeil I.1307 Cts Jeanne I d'Artois (*1291 +17.1.1329) dau.of Otto IV de Chalon, Cte de Bourgogne
* F1. Philippe, *I.1313, +24.3.1321
* F2. Louis, *IX.1315, +8.2.1316, bur Cordeliers, Paris
* F3. Jeanne II, Cts d'Artois, Cts Palatine de Bourgogne, *1/2.5.1308, +13.8.1347, bur Abbaye de Fontenay; m.Nogent-sur-Seine 18.6.1318 Duc Eudes IV de Bourgogne (*1295 +1350)
* F4. Marguerite, Comtesse de Bourgogne et Comtesse d'Artois, Dame de Salins (1361-82), *1309/10, +Paris 9.5.1382, bur St.Denis; m.21.7.1320 Ct Louis I of Flanders (*ca 1304 +26.8.1346)
* F5. Isabelle, *1312, +1348; 1m: Fond-de-Dôle 17.5.1323 Guigues VIII de la Tour du Pin, Cte d'Albon et de Grenoble, Dauphin de Viennois (*1309 +28.7.1333); 2m: before 1336 Baron Jean III de Faucogney (+1345)
* F6. Blanche, a nun at Longchamps, *1314, +there 26.4.1358, bur there

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F3 is 555508 Jeanne. She was born in 1308. Her father was born in 1291.

Solution: Change birthdate of 555508 Jeanne to 1308. Change birthdate of 55509 Phillippe to 1291.

unmerged(11427) · May 9, 2006

DC solutions for 1337 scenario

DC_1337_1
Sofie of Denmark
ID_51511: yr=1240 - 1286
Father: 51510 Erik yr=1216 - 1250
Mother: None
Marriage: 50506 Valdemar Birgersson yr=1240 - 1302 till Bjälbo
Siblings: None
Children: 50507 Ingeborg Valdemarsdotter yr=1263 - 1292

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/denmark/denmark3.html

# B2. Erik IV "Plovpenning", King of Denmark (1241-50), *1216, +murdered 10.8.1250; m.1239 Jutta of Saxony
* C1. Christoffer, +ca 1250
* C2. Knut, +ca 1250
* C3. Sophie, *1235, +1286; m.1260 King Waldemar I of Sweden (+1302)
* C4. Ingeborg, *1244, +1287; m.1261 King Magnus VI of Norway (*1238 +1280)
* C5. Jutta, Abbess of St.Agneta in Roskilde, *1246, +1284
* C6. Agnes, Abbess of St.Agneta in Roskilde, *1249, +1288/95

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C3 is 51511 Sofie.

ID_51526: yr=1240 - 1283
Father: 51524 Abel yr=1218 - 1252
Mother: None
Marriage: 62120 Bernhard yr=1223 - 1286 Askanien
Siblings: 51527 Erik yr=1240 - 1272
Children: 62122 Bernhard yr=1263 - 1323

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/denmark/denmark3.html

# B3. King Abel of Denmark (1250-52), +k.a.29.1.1252; m.1237 Mechtild von Holstein (+1288)
* C1. Waldemar III, Duke of South Jutland, *1238, +1257
* C2. Erich I, Duke of Schleswig (South Jutland), +1272; m.1259/60 Margareta (+1272) dau.of Pr Jaromar II of Rügen
* C3. Abel, *1252, +1279; m.Mechtild von Schwerin
* C4. Sophie, *1240, +after 1284; m.1258 Bernhard I, Fürst von Anhalt-Bernburg (+1286/7)

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C4 is 51526 Sofie.

Solution: They are two distinct Sofies. Since I'm in nitpicking mood, I'm gonna change birthdate of 51511 Sofie to 1235.
DC_1337_2
Gerhard von Holstein
Solved with MC_1337_6.
DC_1337_3
Charles de Valois
ID_55499: 55499 Charles yr=1337 - 0
Father: 55502 Jean yr=1319 - 0
Mother: 62600 Bonne yr=1315 - 0 de Luxembourg
Siblings: None
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet20.html

# B1. King JEAN II "le Bon" of France (1350-64), cr Reims 26.9.1350, Duc de Normandie et de Guyenne 1331, *Château de Gué-de-Maulin 26.4.1319, +a prisoner in London 8.4.1364, bur St.Denis; 1m: Melun 6.8.1332 Judith=Bonne de Luxembourg (*21.5.1315, +11.9.1349) dau.of King Johann of Bohemia; 2m: Nanterre 19.2.1349 Jeanne, Cts d'Auvergne et de Boulogne (*1326, +Château d'Argily 21.11.1361, bur St.Denis) dau.of Cte Guillaume XII
* C1. King CHARLES V "le Sage" of France (1364-80), *Château de Vincennes 21.1.1337, +Château de Beaute-sur-Marne 1380, bur St.Denis; m.Tain-en-Viennois Jeanne de Bourbon (*1339 +1378)
* C2. Duc Louis d'Anjou et de Touraine (1360-84), etc, titular King of Naples, Sicily & Jerusalem, Cte de Provence, etc; *Château-du-Bois-de-Vincennes 1339, +Biselia 1384, bur Angers; m.1360 Marie, Cts de Blois et de Guise (*1343 +Angers 1404, bur there) dau.of Charles de Chatillon-Blois, some-time Duc de Bretagne; for his descendants, see HERE
* C3. Jean "le Magnifique", Duc de Berry et d'Auvergne, *Vincennes 30.11.1340, +Château de Nesles 15.3.1416, bur Bourges; 1m: Carcassone 24.6.1360 Jeanne (*ca 1346 +1387) dau.of Cte Jean I d'Armagnac; 2m: Riom 1389 Jeanne, Cts d'Auvergne et de Boulogne (*1378 +1422) dau.of Cte Jean II
* C4. Duc Philippe II de Bourgogne (1363-1404) et de Touraine, etc, *Pontoise 15.1.1342, +Hall, 27.4.1404, bur Dijon; m.Ghent 19.6.1369 Css Margueritte III of Flanders and Artois, Dss of Brabant and Limburg, Mgvne of Antwerp, Lady of Malines, Cts de Nevers et de Rethel, etc (*13.4.1350 +16.3.1405); for his descendants, See HERE
* C5. a son, *1354, +young
* C6. Blanche, *1336, +young
* C7. Catherine, *1338, +young
* C8. Jeanne, *Châteauneuf-sur-Loire 1343, +Evreux 1373, bur St.Denis; 1m: Vincennes 1347 Henry of Brabant, Duke of Limburg (+1349); 2m: Vivier-en-Brie 1353 King Charles II of Navarre (*1332 +1387)
* C9. Marie, *St.Germain-en-Laye 18.9.1344, +15.10.1404, bur Bar-le-Duc; m.there 1364 Duke Robert I of Bar (*1342 +1411)
* C10. Agnes, *1345, +Oaris 1349, bur there
* C11. Isabelle, *Bois-de-Vincennes 1.10.1348, +Pavia 11.9.1372, bur there; m.VI.1360 Gian Galeazzo I Visconti, Duca di Milano (*1351 +3.9.1402)
* C12. Marguerite, *the Louvre 1347, +Poissy 1352
* C13. Blanche, *1350, +young
* C14. Catherine, *1352, +young

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C1 is 55499 Charles.

ID_55514: 55514 Charles yr=1337 - 0
Father: 55513 Charles yr=1297 - 0
Mother: See 1337d) missing mothers: 57560 Maria yr=1315 - 0 Nuñez de Lara
Siblings: None
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet20.html

# A2. [1m.] Charles "le Magnanime", Cte d'Alençon et de Perche 1326, de Chartres, de Porhoet et de Joigny, *1297, +k.a.Crécy 26.8.1346, bur Jacobins, Paris; 1m: IV.1314 Jeanne, Cts de Joigny (+2.9.1336) dau.of Cte Jean II Blondel; 2m: XII.1336 Maria de la Cerda (*1310, +Paris 19.11.1379, bur Jacobins, Paris) dau.of Fernando de la Cerda, sn de Lunel
* B1. Cte Charles III d'Alençon, Archbishop of Lyon and Primate of France 13.7.1365, *1337, +Lyon 5.7.1375, bur there
* B2. Philippe, Bp of Beauvais 1356, Cardinal, Archbishop of Rouen, Patriarch of Jerusalem, etc, *1338, +Rome 1397, bur there
* B3. Cte Pierre II "le Noble" d'Alençon, du Perche et Porhoet, *1340, +Argentan 20.9.1404, bur Perche; m.10.10.1371 Marie Chamaillart, Vcts de Beaumont-au-Maine (+Argentan 18.11.1425, bur there) dau.of Guillaume de Chamaillart, Vcte de Beaumont-Brienne
* B4. Robert, Cte de Perche et de Porhoet, *1344, +1377; m.5.4.1374 Jeanne (+after 20.1.1407) dau.of Vcte Jean I de Rohan
o C1. Charles, *1375, living 1377
* B5. Isabelle, a nun at Poissy, *1342, +Poissy 3.9.1379

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B1 is 55514 Charles.
They are two different persons who happend to be born in the same year and a have the same name.

Solution: Leave everything as it is.
DC_1337_4
Alfonso de Meneses
ID_57662: 57662 Alfonso yr=1300 - 1314 (He remains as FUBAR in MC_1337_34)
Father: 57660 Alfonso yr=1203 - 1272
Mother: 57661 Mayor yr=1300 - 0 de Meneses
Marriage: None
Siblings: 57666 Maria yr=1260 - 1321
Children: 57663 Tello yr=1285 - 1315

ID_57664: 57664 Alfonso yr=1300 - 1318
Father: 57663 Tello yr=1285 - 1315
Mother: 59525 Maria yr=1290 - 0 de Coimbra
Marriage: None
Siblings: 57665 Isabel yr=1300 - 0 (no mother)
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/ivrea/ivrea6.html

# D5. [2m.] Inft Alfonso, sn de Molina y Mesa, *1203/4, +Salamanca 1272; 1m: 1222 Mafalda, sna de Molina y Mesa (+ca 1242) dau.of Gonzalo de Lara; 2m: after IX.1244 Teresa (+after 1246) dau.of Cde Gonzalo Nunez de Lara; 3m: after 1246 Mayor, sna de Montealegre y Tiedra, dau.of Alfonso Tellez de Meneses
* E1. [1m.] Fernando, *after 1242, +ca 1272
* E2. [1m.] Blanca, sna de Molina y Mesa, *after 1240, +Molina 1293; m.Alfonso Nino batard de Castilla (+1281)

* E3. [2m.] Juana de Molina, *ca 1246, +after 1280; m.1269 Lope Diaz de Haro, soberano de Vizcaya (+1288)
* E4. [3m.] Alfonso de Meneses, sn de Meneses etc, +1314; m.Teresa Perez de Asturias
o F1. Tello de Meneses, sn de Meneses etc, +Tardejas 1315; m.Maria, dau.of Inft Affonso of Portugal
+ G1. Alfonso de Meneses, sn de Meneses etc, +after 1318
+ G2. Isabel, sna de Meneses etc, +after 1354; m.Juan Affonso de Albuquerque, batard de Portugal (+1354)
* E5. [3m.] Maria Alfonsa de Molina, sna de Molina y Mesa, *after 1260, +Valladolid 1321; m.Toledo 1280/1 King Sancho IV of Castile (*1258 +1295)
[illegitimate by Teresa Perez de Braganca]:
* E6. Juan Alfonso
* E7. Leonor; m.Alfonso de Villamayor, sn de Celada
* E8. Berenguela, +Narbonne 1272; m.Gonzalo Froilaz
* E9. Urraca; m.Garcia Carillo

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E4 is 57662 Alfonso. G1 is 57664 Alfonso.
OK, I think I finaly figuered it out:
http://genealogy.wingetsolutions.com/tree/family.php?famid=F11457&ged=winget.ged
57662 Alfonso was born in 1259 and died in 1314. Looking at MC_1337_34, I see that 57661 Mayor has to be fixed too.

Solution: Change 57662 Alfonso to yr=1259-1314. Change 57661 Mayor to yr=1230-1265.
DC_1337_5
Friedrich von Hohenzollern
ID_62354: 62354 Friedrich yr=1330 - 0
Father: 62351 Friedrich yr=1285 - 1333
Mother: None
Marriage: None
Siblings: 62350 Friedrich IX yr=1320 - 0; 62353 Friedrich Ostertag yr=1323 - 0
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/hohz/hohenz7.html

# C2. Gf Friedrich VIII "Ostertag", +1333; m.NN
* D1. Gf Fritzli II, +1335/9
* D2. Gf Friedrich IX "Schwargraf", Gf von Hohenzollern, +1377/79; m.before 27.4.1341 Adelheid von Hohenberg (+after 1385)
* D3. Friedrich Ostertag II, Grand Prior of the Order of St.John in Germany, +after 13.8.1395
* D4. Friedrich "der Strassburger", +after 9.3.1365; m.before 1.2.1343 Margarete von Hohenberg
o E1. Gf Friedrich XI von Hohenzollern, +1401; m.before 12.1.1377 Adelheid von Fürstenberg, heiress of Bräunlingen (+19.3.1413)
o E2. Friedrich Ostertag IV, +1399
o E3. Friedrich, a canon in Strassburg, +1408/10
o E4. Margarete, +after 1.12.1433; 1m: Gebhard I von Rechberg (+1395/97); 2m: before 18.10.1398 Albrecht von Abensberg (+1407); 3m: after 13.5.1424 Wilhelm von Puechberg (+1426)
o E5. Anna; m.Albrecht III von Rechberg (+1408)

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So many Friedrichs. D4 is 62354 Friedrich. No birthdates.

ID_87031: 87031 Friedrich yr=1330 - 0
Father: 87021 Johann yr=1307 - 0
Mother: 87030 Elisabeth von Henneberg yr=1317 - 0 NAMELESS
Marriage: None
Siblings: None
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/hohz/hohenz1.html

# F1. Bggf Johann II von Nürnberg (1332-57), +1357, bur Heilsbronn; m.before 3.3.1333 Gfn Elisabeth von Henneberg (*before 1318, +1377/91)
* G1. Bggf Friedrich V von Nürnberg (1357-97), *before 3.3.1333, +Plassenburg 21.1.1398, bur Heilsbronn; m.1350 Elisabeth von Meissen (*1329 +1375)
o H1. Bggf Johann III von Nürnberg (1397-1420), *ca 1369, +Plassenburg 11.6.1420, bur Heilsbronn; m.ca 1381 Margaret of Luxemburg (*29.9.1373, +4.6.1410)
o H2. Bggf Friedrich VI von Nürnberg (1398-1412), Elector of Brandenburg (1412-40), *1371, +Schloss Kadolzburg 1440, bur Kloster Heilsbronn; m.1401 Pss Elisabeth of Bavaria-Landshut (*1383 +1442); for their descendants see HERE
o H3. Elisabeth, *1358, +Heidelberg 26.7.1411, bur there; m.Amberg 1374 Pfgf Ruprecht III bei Rhein, Duke of Bavaria, German King (+1410)
o H4. Beatrix, *Nürnberg ca 1362, +Perchtoldsdorf 10.6.1414, bur Vienna; m.Vienna 1375 Duke Albrecht III of Austria (*1348 +29.8.1395)
o H5. Margarete, +Gudensberg 1406, bur Marburg; m.Kulmbach 1383 Ldgve Hermann II of Hesse (+1413)
o H6. Anna, a nun in Seusslitz, *ca 1364, +after 10.5.1392
o H7. Katharina, Abbess in Hof, +1409, bur Hof
o H8. Agnes, Abbess in Hof, +1429/32
* G2. Margarete, +1377; m.Landshut 1359 Duke Stefan I of Bavaria-Landshut (+1375)
* G3. Elisabeth, +ca 1383, bur Kloster Wilhering; m.1360 Gf Ulrich von Schaunberg (+1373)
* G4. Anna, Abbess of Birkenfeld and of Himmelskron, +1383, bur Himmelskron
* G5. Adelheid, a nun in Birkenfeld (1361-70)

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G1 is 87031. His birthdate is fine.
Obviuosly they are two different individuals. Not sure about exact birthdates, but they are there somewhere.

Solution: Leave them as they are.
DC_1337_6
Friedrich von Hohenzollern
ID_62355: 62355 Friedrich yr=1220 - 1289
Father: 62356 Friedrich yr=1188 - 1255
Mother: None
Marriage: None
Siblings: None
Children: 62352 Friedrich yr=1242 - 1298

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/hohz/hohenz7.html

Gf Friedrich IV von Zollern, Bggf of Nürnberg, *ca 1188, +1251/55; m.Elisabeth N; He had issue:
* A1. Gf Friedrich V von Zollern, +Burg Hohenzollern 1289; m.before 13.1.1258 Udilhild von Dillingen (+as a nun at Stetten after 1289, bur there)
o B1. Gf Friedrich VI von Zollern, +22.7.1289/ca 4.5.1298; m.before 20.12.1281 Kunigunde of Baden (*ca 1265, +22.7.1310)

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A1 is 62355 Friedrich (I hope). Dates seem OK.

ID_62359: 62359 Friedrich yr=1220 - 1297
Father: 62358 Konrad yr=1191 - 1260
Mother: None
Marriage: None
Siblings: None
Children: 87020 Friedrich yr=1287 - 1322

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/hohz/hohenz1.html

C2. Bggf Konrad I von Nürnberg (1227-61), +1260/1; m.NN (possibly a dau.of Friedrich II, Gf von Leiningen u.Saarbrücken)/ Adelaide von Frontenhausen (*ca 1190 +ca 1245)
* D1. Bggf Friedrich III von Nürnberg (1261-97) und Abenberg, Mgve von Bayreuth und Kulmbach (1248-97), +1297; 1m: before 10.5.1251 Elisabeth von Andechs-Meranien (+1272); 2m: before 10.4.1280 Helene of Saxony (+1309, bur Nürnberg)
...
o E7. [2m.] Bggf Friedrich IV von Nürnberg (1297-1332), *1287, +1332, bur Heilsbronn; m.before 2.8.1307 Margarete von Görz (+1348, bur Birkenfeld)

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D1 is 62359 Friedrich (I hope).
It looks like there are two different Friedrichs (again).

Solution: leave them as they are.
DC_1337_7
Anna von Wittelsbach
ID_62734: 62734 Anna yr=1329 - 0;
Father: 62740 Ludwig yr=1282 - 0;

Mother: 62741 Marguerite yr=1301 - 0 de Hainault;
Marriage: None
Siblings: 62730 Stefan yr=1319 - 0; 62731 Ludwig yr=1316 - 0; 62732 Mathilde yr=1317 - 0; 62733 Margarete yr=1325 - 0; 62735 Elisabeth yr=1326 - 0; 62744 Ludwig yr=1330 - 0; 62745 Wilhelm yr=1327 - 0; 62746 Albrecht yr=1336 - 0
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wittel/wittel9.html

Duke LUDWIG IV "der Bayer" of Bavaria in Upper Bavaria (1294-47) in Lower Bavaria (1340-47), King of Italy (1327-47), German King (25.11.1314-1347), Emperor (14.1.1328-1347), *1.4.1282, +Puch bei Fürstenfeldbruck 11.10.1347, bur Munich; 1m: ca 1309 Beatrix of Schweidnitz (*ca 1292 +24.8.1322); 2m: Köln 25.2.1324 Margaret of Hainault, Css of Hainault, Holland and Seeland (*1311 +23.6.1356); (NOTE) His issue:
* A1. LUDWIG V, Mgve of Brandenburg (1323-51), Duke of Carinthia and Ct of Tirol (1349-61), Duke of Bavaria in Upper Bavaria (1347-61), *V.1315/VII.1316, +Zorneding 18.9.1361, bur Munich; 1m: 1324 Pss Margaret of Denmark (*1305 +1340, bur Berlin); 2m: Schloß Tirol 10.2.1342 Margaret Maultasch of Carinthia, Css of Tirol (*Schloss Tirol 1318, +Vienna 3.10.1369, bur Vienna)
* A2. Duke STEFAN II of Bavaria (1347-75), in Lower Bavaria, *autumn 1319, +Landshut 10.5.1375, bur Munich; 1m: 27.6.1328 Pss Elizabetta of Sicily (*ca 1309 +Landshut 31.3.1349, bur Munich) dau.of Friedrich II, King of Sicily; 2m: Landshut 14.2.1359 Margarete von Nürnberg (*ca1333 +19.9.1377, bur Munich), dau.of Johann II von Nürnberg
* A3. Ludwig VI "der Römer", Duke of Upper Bavaria (1347-51), Mgve of Brandenburg (1351-65), *Rome 12.5.1330, +Berlin 14.5.1365, bur there; 1m: ca 25.7.1345 Pss Kunigunde of Poland (*before 16.5.1335 +Berlin 26.4.1357, bur there); 2m: 1360 Ingeborg of Mecklenburg (*ca 1340 +after 25.7.1395)
* A4. Wilhelm I, Duke of Bavaria-Straubing, Ct of Holland and Seeland (1351-58), Ct of Hainault 1356, *Frankfurt 1330, +Le Quesnoy 1388, bur Valenciennes; m.London 1352 Matilda of Lancaster (*1335 +1362)
* A5. Albrecht I, Duke of Bavaria-Straubing (1347-1404), Ct of Holland, Seeland and Hainault (1358-1404), regent till 1389, *Munich 25.7.1336, +The Hague 13.12.1404; 1m: Passau aft.19.7.1353 Margarete of Brieg (*1342/3 +The Hague 18/22.2.1386; 2m: Heusden 1394 Margarete of Cleves (*ca 1375 +Haus Kleve, nr Haarlem 1412)
* A6. OTTO V "der Faule", Duke of Bavaria (1347-79), Mgve of Brandenburg (1360/65-73), *Munich 1340/2, +Schloß Wolfstein 15.11.1379, bur Seligenthal; m.Prague 19.3.1366 Katharina of Luxemburg (*1342 + 20.5.1386/1395)
* A7. Ludwig, *X.1347, +1348, bur Munich
* A8. Mathilde, *after 21.6.1313, +Meissen 2.7.1346, bur Altenzelle; m.Nürnberg 1.7.1329 Mgve Friedrich II of Meissen (*1310 +18.11.1349)
* A9. Anna, *ca 1316, +Kastl 29.1.1319, bur there
* A10. Agnes, *ca 1318
* A11. Margarete, *1325, +1374, bur Munich; 1m: Ofen 1351 Pr Stephen of Croatia (+1354); 2m: 1357/58 Gerlach von Hohenlohe (*before 1344, +after 16.10.1387)
* A12. Anna, *ca 1326, +Fontenelles nr Valenciennes 3.6.1361, bur there; m. Johann of Lower Bavaria (*1329 +1340)
* A13. Elisabeth, *1329, +Stuttgart 2.8.1402, bur there; 1m: Verona 22.11.1350 Cangrande II della Scala, Lord of Verona (*1332 +14.12.1359); 2m: 1362 Gf Ulrich von Württemberg (*1342 +k.a. Döffingen 23.8.1388)
* A14. Beatrix, *1344, +25.12.1359, bur Stockholm (?); m.before 25.10.1356 King Erik XII of Sweden (*1339 +1359)
* A15. Agnes, *Munich 1345, +Munich 11.11.1352, bur there
* A16. a child, *IX.1314

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A12 is 62734 Anna. She was born in 1326 and her sister A13 (62735 Elisabeth) was born 1329.

ID_62752: 62752 Anna yr=1329 - 0;
Father: 62749 Rudolf yr=1306 - 0;
Mother: 62716 Anna yr=1301 - 1335 von Kärnten;
Marriage: None
Siblings: None
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wittel/wittel2.html

# A3. Rudolf II "der Blinde", Pfgf bei Rhein (1327-53) u.in der Oberpfalz, *Wolfratshausen 8.8.1306, +Neustadt 4.10.1353, bur there; 1m: 1328 Anna von Görz (*ca 1300, +1331/5, bur Schönau); 2m: 1348 Margherita of Sicily (*1331 +Neustadt 1377)
* B1. Anna, *26.9.1329, +Prague 2.2.1353, bur there; m.4/11.3.1349 Emperor Charles IV (*14.5.1316 +29.11.1378)
* B2. [illegitimate] Anna, +after 20.12.1368; m.before 1.11.1361 Richwin von Manendal (+after 20.12.1368)
* B3. [illegitimate] Konrad Hannes, fl 1362

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B1 is 62752 Anna. Clearly a different person with a correct birthdate.

Solution: For cosmetic reasons change birthdate of 62734 Anna to 1326 and birthdate of 62735 Elisabeth to 1329.
DC_1337_8
Wilhelm of Braunschweig
ID_62818: 62818 Wilhelm yr=1297 - 0;
Father: 62805 Heinrich yr=1267 - 1322;
Mother: 62806 Agnes yr=1266 - 1335 of Meissen;
Marriage: None
Siblings: 62721 Adelheid yr=1285 - 1320; 62807 Albrecht yr=1284 - 0; 62808 Heinrich yr=1289 - 0; 62816 Ernst yr=1297 - 0; 62819 Johann yr=1297 - 0; 62820 Mechthild yr=1295 - 0
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/welf/welf3.html

# A1. Duke Heinrich I of Braunschweig-Grubenhagen, *1267, +Salzderhelden 7.9.1322; m.1282 Agnes von Meissen (+after 1.2.1332), dau.of Mgve Albrecht of Meissen
* B1. Otto, *ca 1183, +by 21.9.1309
* B2. Albrecht, *ca 1284, +after 1341
* B3. Duke Heinrich II of Braunschweig-Grubenhagen, *ca 1289, +1351; 1m: by 16.4.1318 Jutta (1299/1306, +1325/27), dau.of Mgve Heinrich I of Brandenburg; 2m: 23.8.1330 Heloise (+after 25.5.1347) dau.of Philippe d'Ibelin
* B4. Friedrich, a Cistercian, *ca 1291, +1323
* B5. Konrad, a Cistercian, *ca 1294, +after 21.12.1320
* B6. Duke Ernst I of Braunschweig-Grubenhagen zu Einbeck 1325, zu Everstein 1327, zu Osterode 1334, zu Hameln 1335, *1297, +11.3.1361; m.1335/36 Adelheid (+after 29.9.1373), dau.of Gf Heinrich II von Everstein
* B7. Duke Wilhelm zu Burg Osterode, Burg Lichtenstein und Lauterburg, and 1/3 Duderstadt 1325, *ca 1298, +21.6./25.7.1360
* B8. Johann, a canon in Einbeck, Münster, Mainz, etc, +23.5.1367
* B9. Adelheid, *ca 1285, +18.8.1320; m.Innsbruck 18.9.1315 Duke Heinrich of Carinthia, King of Bohemia (+2.4.1335)
* B10. Facie, *ca 1286, +1309/12
* B11. Agnes, a nun in Osterode, *ca 1287, +after 7.9.1332
* B12. Adelheid=Irene, *ca 1293, +Rhaidestes 16.8.1324; m.III.1318 Emperor Andronicos III Paleologos of Byzantium (+15.7.1341)
* B13. Mechtild, *ca 1295, +by 14.3.1344; m.by 22.5.1318 Johann II von Werl (+27.8.1337)
* B14. Richardis, a nun, *ca 1300, fl 1331/32
* B15. Margarete, +after 17.11.1312
* B16. Alsine, *ca 1282, +after 17.11.1312; m.ca 1306 Gf Friedrich von Beichlingen-Rothenburg

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B7 is 62818 Wilhelm. Birthdate could be 1298.

ID_62838: 62838 Wilhelm yr=1297 - 0;

Father: 62834 Otto yr=1272 - 1330;
Mother: 62755 Mechthild yr=1275 - 1319 von Wittelsbach;
Marriage: 62839 Hedwig von Ravensburg yr=1301 - 1336 NAMELESS;
Siblings: 62835 Otto yr=1296; 62841 Ludwig yr=1297 - 0; 62842 Matilde yr=1300 - 0; 62843 Luitgard yr=1303 - 0; 62844 Jutta yr=1317 - 0; 62845 Ludolf yr=1300 (no mother)
Children: 62840 Hedwig von Ravensburg yr=1331 - 0 (NAMELESS)

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/welf/welf2.html

# H1. Duke Otto II of Lüneburg, +9/10.4.1330; 1m: N, a dau.of Gf Otto von Oldenburg; 2m: 1288 Matilde of Bavaria (*1275 +Lüneburg 28.3.1319); all kids were by 2m.
* I1. Johann, administrator of the archbishopric of Bremen, +8/28.9.1324
* I2. Duke Otto III of Lüneburg, *1296, +19.8.1352; m.22.3.1310 Matilde of Mecklenburg (*1293 +3.6.after 1358)
* I3. Duke Wilhelm of Lüneburg, +23.11.1369; 1m: by 7.4.1328 Hedwig (+5.12.1336), dau.of Gf Otto IV von Ravensberg; 2m: Marie N (+before 2.2.1341); 3m: Magdeburg 12.3.1346 Sofie of Anhalt-Bernburg (+18.12.1362); 4m: 24.6.1363 Agnes of Saxe-Lauenburg (+after 7.1.1387)
o J1. [1m.] Elisabeth, +17.4.1384; 1m: 10.10.1339 Duke Otto of Saxe-Wittenberg (+30.3.1350); 2m: 1354 Gf Nikolaus of Holstein-Schauenburg (+8.5.1397)
o J2. [2m.] Matilde, +after 16.5.1410; 1m: 1355 Duke Ludwig of Braunschweig (+1367); 2m: 25.6.1368 Gf Otto I von Holstein-Schauenburg (+16.3.1404/after 6.5.1405)
* I4. Ludwig, Bp of Minden 1324, +18.7.1346
* I5. Matilde; m.Ulzen autumn 1315 Fst Nikolaus II von Werl (+Süstow 12.10.1316)
* I6. Luitgard, Abbess of Wienhausen (1328-36), +16.4.1338
* I7. Jutta, Abbess of Wienhausen 1338, +16.8.1342
* I8. [illegitimate] Ludolf von Lüneburg, a canon in Medingen, fl 1326/55

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I3 is 62838 Wilhelm. No birthdate.

Solution: Change birthdate of 62818 Wilhelm to 1298 (cosmetic change).
DC_1337_9
Elzbieta Piast
other: 71555 Jadwiga yr=1263 - 0 Piast;
Marriage: None
Siblings: 71500 Kazimierz yr=1310 - 0; 71502 Kunegunda yr=1298 - 1331
Children: 69510 Louis yr=1326 - 0 (father 69500 Charles yr=1288 - 0 d'Anjou); 69511 Ladislaus yr=1322 - 1329 (father 69500 Charles yr=1288 - 0 d'Anjou); 69512 Charles yr=1321 - 0 (father 69500 Charles yr=1288 - 0 d'Anjou); 69513 Andre yr=1327 - 0 (father 69500 Charles yr=1288 - 0 d'Anjou); 69514 Etienne yr=1332 - 0 (father 69500 Charles yr=1288 - 0 d'Anjou); 69515 Katharina yr=1329 - 0 (father 69500 Charles yr=1288 - 0 d'Anjou)

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/piast/piast3.html

# C3. [2m.] Wladislaw I "Lokietek", Pr of Cracow, Ct of Poland (1305-20), King of Poland (1320-33), *3.3.1260/19.1.1261, +2.3.1333; m.ca 1293 Jadwiga (*1266 +1339) dau.of Pr Boleslaw of Great Poland
* D1. Stefan, *after 1296, +1306
* D2. Wladislaw, +1311/2
* D3. King KAZIMIERZ III "the Great" of Poland (1333-70), *30.4.1309/10, +5.11.1370; 1m: 16.10.1325 Anna=Aldona of Lithuania (*1309/10 +1339); 2m: 29.9.1341 (div 1356) Adelheid von Hessen (+1371); 3m: 1356 (separated before 8.5.1364) Krystyna N; 4m: 25.2.1363/ca 1365 Jadwiga (+27.3.1390) dau.of Duke Heinrich III of Glogau and Sagan;
* D4. Kunigunde, *ca 1298, +1331; 1m: ca 1310 Duke Bernhard of Schweidnitz (*ca 1290 +6.5.1326); 2m: after 10.8.1328/23.1.1328 Duke Rudolf I of Saxe-Wittenberg (*ca 1280 +11.3.1356)
* D5. Queen ELZBIETA of Poland (1370-80), *1305, +Buda 29.12.1380; m.6.7.1320 King Charles II Robert of Hungary (*1288 +16.7.1342)
* D6. Jadwiga, +1320/2

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D5 is 71501 Elzbieta. Clearly born in 1305. She was married to Charles from 1320.

ID_71538: 71538 Elzbieta yr=1305 - 0;
Father: 71535 Kazimierz yr=1276 - 0;
Mother: None
Marriage: 68800 Stjepan yr=1292 - 0 Kotromanic;
Siblings: 71536 Wladyslaw yr=1317 - 0
Children: 68801 Katarina yr=1336 - 0

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/piast/piast3.html

# D3. Pr Kazimierz III of Inowraclaw and Gniewkowo, *ca 1278, +1345/48/50; m. before 1309 NN
* E1. Wladislaw "the White", Pr of Gniewkowo, +1388; m.before 1.12.1359 Elisabeth (+1360/1) dau.of Duke Albrecht of Oppeln
* E2. Elzbieta, +after 22.8.1345; m.1324 Stefan Kotromanic, Ban of Croatia (*1312 +1353)

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E2 is 71538 Elzbieta. No birthdate.
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/balkan/balkan2.html

# B1. Stjepan II Kotromanic, Ban of Bosnia (1314-53), he won the territory of Zahumlje (Hercegovina) during his reign, *ca 1292, +1353; he was engaged in 1319 to a dau.of Ct Meinhard von Ortenburg, but they never married; m.1324 Elzbieta (*1302 +1343), dau.of Kazimierz of Kujavia, Pr of Inowraclaw and Gnesen
* C1. Katarina, *ca 1336, +ca 1396; m.1362 Hermann I von Cilli (*1332/34 +21.3.1385)
* C2. Jelisaveta, *ca 1340, +drowned in prison in Dalmatia shortly before 16.1.1387; m.Cracow 20.6.1353 King Louis I of Hungary and Poland (*1326 +1382)

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Here we have 71538 Elzbieta as a second wife. Her birthdate is estimated as 1302.

Solution: Change birthdate of 71538 Elzbieta to 1302. Create new marriage:
Code:
```
marrige = {
		primary = { type = 10 id = 69500 }
		secondary = { type = 10 id = 71501 }
		startdate = { year = 1320 month = july day = 6 }
		}
```
between 69500 Charles and 71501 Elzbieta.
DC_1337_10
Wladyslaw Piast
ID_71725: 71725 Wladyslaw yr=1330 - 0;
Father: 71720 Boleslaw yr=1293 - 0;
Mother: 71721 Elzbieta yr=1314 - 0 Piast;
Marriage: None
Siblings: 71726 Wladyslaw yr=1335 - 0
Children: None

Can't find him.

ID_71742: 71742 Wladyslaw yr=1330 - 0;
Father: 71740 Kazimierz yr=1277 - 0;
Mother: 71519 Euphemia yr=1316 - 0 Piast;
Marriage: None
Siblings: 71743 Przemysl yr=1330 - 0
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/piast/piast8.html

# D2. Duke Kasimir I of Teschen, *1276/80, +1358; m.1321/24 Euphemia (*1310 +after 1373) dau.of Duke Trojden I of Masovia
* E1. Wladislaw, *1325/31, +1355
* E2. Boleslaw, chaplain to Emperor Charles IV, *1331/32, +1356
* E3. Duke Premislaw I Noszek of Teschen, *1332/36, +1410; m.1360/63 Elisabeth (+after 1373) dau.of Duke Bolko of Beuthen
* E4. Hanus, a priest, +after 1359
* E5. Ziemowit, +1391
* E6. Anna, *1325, +1367; m.1338/40 Duke Wenzel I of Liegnitz (+1364)
* E7. Jolanta Helena, Abbess of St.Clara in Cracow (+1364)
* E8. Agnes, *1338, +1371; m.1352/54 Duke Konrad II of Öls (+1403)
* E9. Elisabeth, a nun in Trebnitz, +after 20.1.1364

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E1 is 71742 Wladyslaw. Birthdate fits.
DC_1337_11
Vasilii Rurikovich
ID_72509: 72509 Vasilii yr=1320 - 0
Father: 72500 Ivan yr=1290 - 0
Mother: None
Marriage: None
Siblings: 72508 Svyatoslav yr=1318 - 0
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/russia/rurik10.html

# F3. Ivan, Pr of Smolensk (1313-59), +1359
* G1. Sviatoslav, Pr of Smolensk (1359-86), +k.a.1386
* G2. Vasiliy, Pr of Selekhov (?-1396), +1397

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G2 is probably 72509 Vasilii. No usefull birthdates, but fits into timeframe.

ID_72828: 72828 Vasilii yr=1320 - 0
Father: 72820 Roman yr=1282 - 0
Mother: None
Marriage: None
Siblings: 72827 Fedor yr=1315 - 0
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/russia/rurik11.html

# C2. Roman, +1339 [maybe a son of Demyan]
* D1. Fyodor, Pr of Bielozersk, +k.a.Kulikov 8.9.1380
* D2. Vasiliy, Pr of Sugor, +before 1380

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D2 is probably 72828 Vasilii. However, there are no usefull dates. He fits into timeframe.

Solution: They stay as they are due to lack of more accurate information.
DC_1337_12
Andrei Rurikovich
ID_72856: 72856 Andrei yr=1327 - 0
Father: 72840 Ivan yr=1288 - 0
Mother: 72841 Yelena yr=1290 - 1329 Rurikovich
Marriage: None
Siblings: 72851 Semyon yr=1317 - 0; 72854 Daniil yr=1320 - 1328; 72855 Ivan yr=1326 - 0; 72857 Maria yr=1323 - 0; 72858 Yevdokia yr=1321 - 0; 72859 Feodosia yr=1331 - 0 (mother 72842 Yulyana yr=1300 - 0 Rurikovich)
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/russia/rurik12.html

# B4. Ivan I "Kalita" "Moneybags", Pr of Moscow (1324-41), Great Pr of Vladimir (1328-41), *1288, +1341; 1m: Elena N; 2m: Ulyana N
* C1. Simeon "Gordiy" "the Proud", Pr of Moscow, Great Pr of Vladimir (1341-53), *7.11.1317, +of plague 27.4.1353; 1m: 1333 Anastasia of Lithuania (+11.3.1345); 2m: (div 1346) Yevpraxia; 3m: Maria (+1399), dau.of Pr Alexandr of Tver
* C2. Daniil, *1320, +1328
* C3. Ivan II "the Beauty", Pr of Moscow, Great Pr of Vladimir (1353-59), *30.3.1326, +13.11.1359; 1m: 1341 Feodosia (+1342), dau.of Dmitriy of Briansk; 2m: 1345 Alexandra (+1364), dau.of Vasiliy Veliaminov
* C4. Andrey, Pr of Borovsk, Pr of Serpukhov (1341-53), *4.7.1327, +of plague 6.6.1353; 1m:1345 Yuliana, dau.of Ivan of Galitzia; 2m: Maria (+1390), dau.of Konstantin of Rostov-Borisogleb; both sons from 2m.
* C5. Feotinia
* C6. Yevdokia, +1342; m.Pr Vasiliy Davidovich of Yaroslavl (+1345)
* C7. [2m.] Maria
* C8. [2m.] Feodosia, +1365; m.Pr Konstantin of Rostov (+1365)

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C4 is 72856 Andrei. his birthdate fits perfectly.

ID_72877: 72877 Andrei yr=1327 - 0
Father: 72868 Aleksandr yr=1301 - 0
Mother: 72869 Anastasia yr=1301 - 0 Halicz
Marriage: None
Siblings: 72873 Fedor yr=1320 - 0; 72874 Mikhail yr=1333 - 0; 72875 Vsyevolod yr=1322 - 0; 72876 Vladimir yr=1320 - 0; 72878 Maria yr=1323 - 0; 72879 Yulyana yr=1325 - 0
Children: None

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/russia/rurik14.html

# B2. Saint Alexandr "the Fugitive", Great Pr of Tver (1325-27)+(1338-39), Great Pr of Vladimir (1325-27), Pr of Novgorod (1325-27), Pr of Pskov (1328-38), *1301, +murdered 28.10.1339, bur Tver; m.ca 1320 Anastasia of Galicia (+1364/65)
* C1. Fyodor, +murdered 1339
* C2. Lev, *1321
* C3. Mikhail, Pr of Mikulin (1333-99), Great Pr of Tver (1368-99), Great Pr of Vladimir (1371-75), *1333, +1399; m.NN
* C4. Vsevolod, Pr of Kholm, +1364
* C5. Andrey, +1365
* C6. Vladimir, +1365
* C7. Maria, +1399; m.Great Pr Semion of Vladimir (+1353)
* C8. Uliana (Maria), *ca 1325, +autumn 1392; m.1350 Great Duke Olgierd of Lithuania (+24.5.1377)

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C5 is 72877 Andrei. There is no birthdate, but he fits the timeframe.

Solution: Leave them as they are.
DC_1337_13
Maria Rurikovich
72857 Maria is a sister of 72856 Andrei above (C7).
72878 Maria is a sister of 72877 Andrei above (C7).
It is clear they both fit the timeframe and are different characters.

Solution: Leave them as they are due to lack of more accurate information.

unmerged(11427) · May 24, 2006

IT'S OVER! I'M FINISHED! DIE STUPID SCENARIO FILES, DIE!

I can't believe that I'm finally finished with this...

All I have to do now is put those changes into scenario and relations files and check if there are no new problems.

I need a beer.

unmerged(2456) · May 24, 2006

Fat said:
IT'S OVER! I'M FINISHED! DIE STUPID SCENARIO FILES, DIE!

I can't believe that I'm finally finished with this...

All I have to do now is put those changes into scenario and relations files and check if there are no new problems.

I need a beer.

*A pint for Fat!*

unmerged(21937) · May 24, 2006

Well done.

I'll give you my e-mail by PM, so you can send the finished files over to me, so I can use them as a base of the proposed scenario changes.

unmerged(11427) · Jun 7, 2006

I guess I should complete this thread.

Byakhiam confirmed that he recieved the files and I decided (after some thinking) that I will not conduct a more thorugh search for better info on this matter (at least for the near future).

I promised somewhere that I will make a programm that will search for 'bad marriages' (NexusRTI was doing it by hand for v1.05). I might still do that, but if the list turns out to be to long, I will just present a list and not offer any solution.

Anyway, below I present the list of remaining, unsolved, 'bad characters' if someone is naiive enough to try to do something like this again. 'Bad marriages' will be in a new thread, if I decide to search for those.

Explanation of the list
-Number in parentheses is the number from the old list. For example MC_1066_1(2) Adelaide used to be (before I made the changes) MC_1066_2.
-Sometimes a character has something like (13_OK) in parantheses. The OK means that my programm detects them, but that they are proven to be correct (or plausible). For example a father that died a year before his child is born.

unmerged(11427) · Jun 7, 2006

MC and DC character list. 1066 scenario.

Code:

[b]Missplaced characters:[/b]
MC_1066_1(2)	Adelaide	d'Anjou
id=373 yr=947-1026	mid=413 yr=949-974	fid=372 yr=948-987

MC_1066_2(3)	Thibaut	de Blois
id=382 yr=915-975	mid=6447 yr=850-902	No Father

MC_1066_3(4)	Szépa	Árpád
id=469 yr=1062-0	mid=763 yr=1016-1053	fid=470 yr=1016-1063

MC_1066_4(6)	Niall	O'Néill
id=927 yr=1004-1061	No Mother		fid=939 yr=935-997

MC_1066_5(7)	Bertha	di Ivrea
id=1113 yr=978-1046	No Mother		fid=1110 yr=922-972

MC_1066_6(10)	Mélisende	de Maine
id=1357 yr=955-980	mid=1355 yr=972-1038	fid=1354 yr=960-1015

MC_1066_7(11)	Masud 	of Ghazni
id=3064 yr=1011-1048	No Mother		fid=3054 yr=948-998

MC_1066_8(12)	Ali	of Ghazni
id=3066 yr=1013-1049	No Mother		fid=3054 yr=948-998

MC_1066_9(13)	Flaithbertach	of Ulaid
id=6188 yr=690-750	No Mother		fid=6189 yr=647-677

MC_1066_10(16)	Bruno	van Braunschweig
id=10082 yr=960-1003	No Mother		fid=106518 yr=916-944

MC_1066_11(17)	Guiglielmo	di Montferratto
id=7732 yr=1040-1100	mid=7731 yr=1035-1084	fid=7730 yr=1015-1084

MC_1066_12(21)	Baudoin	de Boulogne
id=10067 yr=970-1024	No Mother		fid=10069 yr=845-969

MC_1066_13(24)	Otto	Askanien
id=20270 yr=1040-0	mid=20268 yr=988-1031	fid=20267 yr=983-1060

MC_1066_14(46)	Ipoly	Guthkeled
id=4401 yr=1033-0	mid=4362 yr=1049-0	fid=20362 yr=1005-0

MC_1066_15(47)	Miklós	Guthkeled
id=4402 yr=1035-0	mid=4362 yr=1049-0	fid=20362 yr=1005-0

MC_1066_16(48)	Bény	Guthkeled
id=4406 yr=1041-0	mid=4362 yr=1049-0	fid=20362 yr=1005-0

MC_1066_17(25)	Pongrácz	Csanád
id=4386 yr=1055-0	mid=4384 yr=1031-0	fid=4379 yr=988-1031

MC_1066_18(26)	Gyula	Csanád
id=4387 yr=1056-0	mid=4384 yr=1031-0	fid=4379 yr=988-1031

MC_1066_19(30)	Ludolf	van Braunschweig
id=106512 yr=1002-1038	mid=1385 yr=999-1043	fid=10082 yr=960-1003

MC_1066_20(31)	Ludolf	van Braunschweig
id=106518 yr=916-944	No Mother		fid=106517 yr=916-944

MC_1066_21(32)	Gisela	van Braunschweig
id=106519 yr=1005-1027	mid=1385 yr=999-1043	fid=10082 yr=960-1003

MC_1066_22(34)	Salvador	de Castilla
id=107685 yr=955-1029	No Mother		fid=107684 yr=961-1001

MC_1066_23(35)	Nuno	of Portugal
id=109607 yr=1024-0	No Mother		fid=109604 yr=1016-1056

MC_1066_24(37)	Gausfred	d'Empuries
id=110600 yr=913-991	mid=331 yr=944-1025	No Father

MC_1066_25(38)	Gerberge	d'Anjou
id=40097 yr=950-1010	mid=413 yr=949-974	fid=372 yr=948-987

MC_1066_26(40)	Agatha	Rurikovich
id=41101 yr=1018-1093	mid=609 yr=956-1002	fid=608 yr=958-1015

MC_1066_27(43)	Gurgen	Bagratuni
id=41546 yr=937-1008	No Mother		fid=41545 yr=931-994

MC_1066_28(44)	Gorandukht	Bagratuni
id=41553 yr=1030-1075	mid=9951 yr=1000-1048	fid=9950 yr=985-1027

MC_1066_29(45)	Gurgen Khachik	Arcruni
id=41572 yr=935-1003	No Mother		fid=41571 yr=926-983


[b]Duplicate characters:[/b]
DC_1066_1(3_OK)	Murtaza	20747	20894	Salman	did=101054	yr=1039	NO PARENTS
DC_1066_88(93_OK)	Gagik	41514	41522	Bagratuni	did=507	yr=1020

unmerged(11427) · Jun 7, 2006

MC and DC character list. 1187 scenario.

Code:

[b]Missplaced characters:[/b]
MC_1187_1(3)	Nikolaus	Niklotid
id=1008 yr=1167-0	No Mother		fid=1000 yr=1131-1164

MC_1187_2(4)	Páll Jónsson	NAMELESS
id=2029 yr=1160-1230	mid=2019 yr=1155-1193	fid=2024 yr=1124-1197

MC_1187_3(5)	Helene Guttormsdatter	of Freysey
id=2045 yr=1160-1242	mid=2043 yr=1135-1150	fid=2044 yr=1130-1167

MC_1187_4(6)	Constantine	Dunkeld
id=2979 yr=1080-1129	No Mother		fid=2980 yr=1072-1093

MC_1187_5(7_OK)	Patrick	of Dunbar
id=3014 yr=1152-1232	No Mother		fid=3017 yr=1129-1151

MC_1187_6(56)	Esclarmonde	de Foix
id=5553 yr=1152-0	mid=5573 yr=1150-0	fid=5550 yr=1130-0

MC_1187_7(57)	Raimond-Roger	de Foix
id=5554 yr=1155-0	mid=5573 yr=1150-0	fid=5550 yr=1130-0

MC_1187_8(16)	Cecile	Trencavel
id=5573 yr=1150-0	mid=5575 yr=1130-0	fid=5571 yr=1141-1180

MC_1187_9(17)	Alix	de Bourgogne
id=5596 yr=1125-1173	mid=6002 yr=1128-1190	fid=6001 yr=1118-1162

MC_1187_10(59)	Gerard	de Macon
id=5703 yr=1175-0	mid=5963 yr=1169-0	fid=5700 yr=1159-0

MC_1187_11(60)	Elvira	de Lara
id=10574 yr=1120-1180	No Mother		fid=7540 yr=1140-0

MC_1187_12(37)	Ida	von Babenberg
id=12890 yr=1090-1115	No Mother		fid=12548 yr=1027-1075

MC_1187_13(61)	Mechtilde	von Wasserburg
id=12965 yr=1180-0	mid=12954 yr=1176-0	fid=12964 yr=1142-0

MC_1187_14(62)	Konrad	Piast
id=21534 yr=1158-0	mid=21541 yr=1150-0	fid=21530 yr=1127-0

MC_1187_15(63)	Boleslaw	Piast
id=21535 yr=1157-1181	mid=21541 yr=1150-0	fid=21530 yr=1127-0

MC_1187_16(64)	Katarina Sigurdsdatter	of Norway
id=22596 yr=1127-1178	mid=22621 yr=1150-0	fid=22595 yr=1090-1130


[b]Duplicate characters:[/b]
DC_1187_1(1)	Angus	3074	3075	of Angus	did=100043	yr=1171
DC_1187_2(3_OK)	Dietrich	12042	12051	Wettin	did=528	yr=1162
DC_1187_3(4_OK)	Konrad	12049	12550	Wettin	did=528	yr=1150
DC_1187_4(5_OK)	Mstislav	22522	22722	Rurikovich	did=705	yr=1130
DC_1187_5(6_OK)	Vsyevolod	22524	22640	Rurikovich	did=705	yr=1153
DC_1187_6(7_OK)	Yaroslav	22590	22746	Rurikovich	did=705	yr=1160
DC_1187_7(9_OK)	Gleb	22702	22742	Rurikovich	did=705	yr=1120
DC_1187_8(10_OK)	Rostislav	22744	22795	Rurikovich	did=705	yr=1100
DC_1187_9(11_OK)	Vladimir	22747	22770	Rurikovich	did=705	yr=1165

unmerged(11427) · Jun 7, 2006

MC and DC character list. 1337 scenario.

Code:

[b]Missplaced characters:[/b]
MC_1337_1(1)	Omelia	della Scala
id=12086 yr=1314-0	mid=12085 yr=1290-1320	fid=12070 yr=1284-1311

MC_1337_2(3)	Otto	Gryfita
id=51950 yr=1279-0	No Mother		fid=51953 yr=1219-1278

MC_1337_3(13_OK)	Blanche	de Capet
id=55421 yr=1328-0	mid=55418 yr=1310-0	fid=55414 yr=1295-1327

MC_1337_4(26)	Luis	de la Cerda
id=57551 yr=1300-0	No Mother		fid=57550 yr=1296-0

MC_1337_5(27)	Fernando	de la Cerda
id=57552 yr=1300-0	No Mother		fid=57550 yr=1296-0

MC_1337_6(28)	Fernando	de Valencia
id=57590 yr=1316-0	mid=57683 yr=1300-0	fid=57562 yr=1282-1315

MC_1337_7(29)	Alfonso	de Valencia
id=57600 yr=1316-0	mid=57683 yr=1300-0	fid=57562 yr=1282-1315

MC_1337_8(31)	Fernando	de Borgoña
id=57632 yr=1300-0	mid=60564 yr=1300-1327	fid=57630 yr=1282-0

MC_1337_9(37)	Pedro	de Castro
id=57670 yr=1290-0	No Mother		fid=57674 yr=1300-0

MC_1337_10(38)	Juana	de Castro
id=57672 yr=1300-0	mid=57671 yr=1300-0	fid=57670 yr=1290-0

MC_1337_11(40)	Juana	Nuñez de Lara
id=57680 yr=1285-0	mid=57682 yr=1300-0	fid=57681 yr=1300-0

MC_1337_12(41)	Teresa	Nuñez de Lara
id=57683 yr=1300-0	mid=57682 yr=1300-0	fid=57681 yr=1300-0

MC_1337_13(44)	Fernao	de Sousa
id=59537 yr=1336-0	No Mother		fid=59536 yr=1330-0

MC_1337_14(46_OK)	Ferran	d'Aragó
id=60607 yr=1317-0	No Mother		fid=60605 yr=1278-1316

MC_1337_15(52)	Louis	de Neuchatel
id=62094 yr=1272-0	mid=62093 yr=1280-1335	fid=62092 yr=1272-0

MC_1337_16(56)	Irmgard	von Württemberg
id=62315 yr=1272-1320	No Mother		fid=62306 yr=1226-1265

MC_1337_17(64_OK)	Elisabeth	of Braunschweig
id=62846 yr=1278-1314	mid=62833 yr=1251-1289	fid=62832 yr=1242-1277

MC_1337_18(66)	Maria	von Kleve
id=62923 yr=1334-0	mid=56555 yr=1290-1333	fid=62920 yr=1290-0

MC_1337_19(74)	Miklós	Viczay
id=70095 yr=1234-1300	No Mother		fid=70094 yr=1234-1300

MC_1337_20(77)	Napoleone	Orsini
id=78503 yr=1263-0	No Mother		fid=78504 yr=1291-0

[b]Duplicate characters:[/b]
DC_1337_1(3_OK)	Charles	55499	55514	de Valois	did=101	yr=1337
DC_1337_2(5_OK)	Friedrich	62354	87031	von Hohenzollern	did=12476	yr=1330
DC_1337_3(6_OK)	Friedrich	62355	62359	von Hohenzollern	did=12476	yr=1220
DC_1337_4(10)	Wladyslaw	71725	71742	Piast	did=699	yr=1330
DC_1337_5(11_OK)	Vasilii	72509	72828	Rurikovich	did=705	yr=1320
DC_1337_6(12_OK)	Andrei	72856	72877	Rurikovich	did=705	yr=1327
DC_1337_7(13_OK)	Maria	72857	72878	Rurikovich	did=705	yr=1323

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