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All,

Good session. Shame about Tabriz. Looking forward to challenging Napoleon next week.

Oh, and I didn't notice before but Delos, you have got to build CCs. That's why your MP is so low.
 

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HolisticGod said:
All,

Good session. Shame about Tabriz. Looking forward to challenging Napoleon next week.

Oh, and I didn't notice before but Delos, you have got to build CCs. That's why your MP is so low.

Im looking fordware to it too ;)

BTW Thanks! I didn´t know about that, even though I was wondering why my support limit was so bad...

CAK I guess we should start wondering what the peace deal is going to be, I´ve got 99% WS
 

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Guys,

Sorry for missing last session. What happened? Was OE subbed? I saw in the stats that it lost 24 provs :eek:
:eek:

BTW, I dont think I'll be able to keep playing with you guys, neither finish this game nor subscribe for ATE 2 for the next 6 months. I'll have classes at morning (7am) at Tuesdays and Thurdays, which means that I'll have to have a good sleep at Wedenesday (I can play if we move ATE 2 to Tue, but I dont think we will, wont we?).

It was great playing with you guys, I had a great fun, playing and talking with all of you and I hope I can play with you all again someday.
 

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Casluerj said:
It was great playing with you guys, I had a great fun, playing and talking with all of you and I hope I can play with you all again someday.
:( Oh man ... well.. perhaps we can move the session for a next version of the game if it suits you, I mean, if every1 else is agree (assuming that we are continuing with this group ;) ); I had a great time playing and learning from you Cas :) .. be around ok?
 

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Ah yes, your OE was subbed twice... lol.. yes.. twice, since the first one, Frank, left the game after being raped by HG; then Gaius, tried to hold up against the spaniards but it was too much for him. Then again, HG attacked OE just because he was bored, as part of this "anarchy" that has become the game; but I didn't get what happened there because after I got ctd....
 

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the_genius said:
Ah yes, your OE was subbed twice... lol.. yes.. twice, since the first one, Frank, left the game after being raped by HG; then Gaius, tried to hold up against the spaniards but it was too much for him. Then again, HG attacked OE just because he was bored, as part of this "anarchy" that has become the game; but I didn't get what happened there because after I got ctd....

LOL, but 24 provs is very high considering that the perm wasnt there, dont you think?

But anyway, its not my problem anymore.
 

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Casluerj said:
LOL, but 24 provs is very high considering that the perm wasnt there, dont you think?

But anyway, its not my problem anymore.
Well, he got some independencies also... oh and there was this war with Austria where it got back Venice... so there were 4 wars I believe...
 

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delosandes said:
Im having classes on thursdays at 8 si its being really anoying for me to stay awake until 1:30 am every wednesday... I would be most happy if we could move the session to tuesdays :)
But I guess that it's going to be done by a next version of this MP, I think, in order to finish this one as it is now, I mean, there are just a few years to end
 

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the_genius said:
Ah yes, your OE was subbed twice... lol.. yes.. twice, since the first one, Frank, left the game after being raped by HG; then Gaius, tried to hold up against the spaniards but it was too much for him. Then again, HG attacked OE just because he was bored, as part of this "anarchy" that has become the game; but I didn't get what happened there because after I got ctd....

I didn't get raped, OE was already. :confused:
 

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TG,

No, not because I was "bored." Because Russia and the OE were the nine hundred pound gorillas of this game and I'd intended, from the time you and Cas brutalized Spain, to give the Turks a beating. For the record, it is far from what I would've done to Cas because Gaius threatened to quit, which delayed my campaign for five years.

As far as beating on subs is concerned, Cas, you were badly beaten before Frank took over. That you didn't show up doesn't throw a shield around your country.
 

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HolisticGod said:
TG,

No, not because I was "bored." Because Russia and the OE were the nine hundred pound gorillas of this game and I'd intended, from the time you and Cas brutalized Spain, to give the Turks a beating. For the record, it is far from what I would've done to Cas because Gaius threatened to quit, which delayed my campaign for five years.
Yeah, I know, but that was the impression you made last night, man. You should had relax or "sit in your ass waiting" until the rest agree on doing that big war you want, instead of pushing and pushing that far. There's still like 20 years to go, a full session for doing that.
 

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TG,

No, I shouldn't have had to wait at all.

I should've declared war in 1789 and let the chips fall where they may. Threatening to quit is not viable diplomatic tactic.
 

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the_genius said:
But I guess that it's going to be done by a next version of this MP, I think, in order to finish this one as it is now, I mean, there are just a few years to end

Of course ;)

Come on men it’s just a game, we are finishing this next week so what does it matter? OE isn’t unplayable... its more than that, I would suggest that we post a thread in which we ask a player who thinks is capable of taking the OE and kick Russians but, what do you think?? It would be a great challenge for both, the newcomer and HG
 

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Guys,

I dont wish to beat on a dead horse however I have to say that im still unhappy with the compensation I got. How come Spain got a couple of CCs and their army reorganised when all I got was a measly 1000 ducats and dp clicks. This is ridiculous. As I said before the maintenance was on full so I ended up paying an extra 27.5 ducats per month for 14 years!!! Come on I should be reimbursed for this. Also the ai had screwed up my armed forces destroying my cannon and inf while boning up ridiculously on cav. I had to destroy tonnes of cav and rebuild my art and inf. I dont think its fair that my country suffer because you guys decided to hijack my sub.
 

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Gaius,

Threatening to quit seriously is bad enough, but using that as a game tactic is totally unacceptable in EU II. You say you'll never do it again, and I'll take your word on it this time, but if I ever see it or hear of it that's the last time you'll come anywhere near a game of mine. I realize you're new to this community, and maybe that sort of BS slides over in Victoria, but it absolutely, positively does not fly here.

As far as your being a relatively novice player, blame Cas for that, not me. He decided to skip out on one of the final sessions and he created a country that was the only significant challenge for Russia during that period. What really hurt was losing all the Asian manpower last session, before which the OE had quite a fair bit more than Russia and was considerably wealthier, but it was still large, well-armed and more than capable of fighting defensively.

In the end-game, these kinds of gains are not only commonplace they're necessary. More to the point, countries in EU II, as historically, fall from grace or are even destroyed because the dynamic of the game so dictates. Especially toward the end of the eighteenth century.

I was already giving Cas a thrashing. That a sub took over, one less experienced than I am, is unfortunate, but not my fault.

Cak,

Spain was compensated more because it lost more. No CCs, most of its fleet gone, a whole session of financial mismanagement and lost time in naval matters. Prussia, on the other hand, barely suffered a scratch. Between what you were edited and the 1K I sent you in gifts, I think you're fine. Especially since you're now eligible for the Friends of the Tzarina charity program.

TG ruled. It was the right decision. And moreover, I offered you 4K in a loan that would've cost you one stab and you petulantly rejected it because you couldn't even stand for that. Frankly, I've zero sympathy now.
 

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HolisticGod said:
Cak,

Spain was compensated more because it lost more. No CCs, most of its fleet gone, a whole session of financial mismanagement and lost time in naval matters. Prussia, on the other hand, barely suffered a scratch. Between what you were edited and the 1K I sent you in gifts, I think you're fine. Especially since you're now eligible for the Friends of the Tzarina charity program.

TG ruled. It was the right decision. And moreover, I offered you 4K in a loan that would've cost you one stab and you petulantly rejected it because you couldn't even stand for that. Frankly, I've zero sympathy now.

I didnt kow it would cost me 1 stab I thought it was more like 3 plus I was planning on dowing france and didnt want the stab hit especially since I thought it was 3 as then I would have to push my expected war with france back. Spain may have lost more but thats because Fraese couldnt arrange a sub. I had a sub arranged. Its not my fault if you guys decided to hijack him. I shouldnt have to pay for it. Yes the ai may not have completely destroyed my country but I have shwon some major financial loss that I have suffered because of this. Just because the ai didnt completely fuck prussia up doesnt change the fact that you guys stole my sub and I deserve some sort of compensation for it that is more than just a cursory 1000 ducats.