Americans take Europe 2 : Discussion Thread

[arcorelli]

Anyway, could any of you good people sub me this Sunday? (England, first session, 1200 EST)

BTW, delosandes good points, but Prussia as a colonial power? Any colony you got is free WS for a naval nation in a war.

 

[delosandes]

Anyway, could any of you good people sub me this Sunday? (England, first session, 1200 EST)

BTW, delosandes good points, but Prussia as a colonial power? Any colony you got is free WS for a naval nation in a war.

Im not saying colonial power, but the ability to properly use those 5 conqs and explorers... I could be able to colonize some islands and with some luck an asian rich province or culture to claim... I hope the GM will see things the way I see and I can get BB instead of ugly Poland...

Does 1200 east mean 8:00 a.m. here?

 

[unmerged(11287)]

Im not saying colonial power, but the ability to properly use those 5 conqs and explorers... I could be able to colonize some islands and with some luck an asian rich province or culture to claim... I hope the GM will see things the way I see and I can get BB instead of ugly Poland...

Does 1200 east mean 8:00 a.m. here?

afraid of me?

 

[Cakravarti]

Im not saying colonial power, but the ability to properly use those 5 conqs and explorers... I could be able to colonize some islands and with some luck an asian rich province or culture to claim... I hope the GM will see things the way I see and I can get BB instead of ugly Poland...

Does 1200 east mean 8:00 a.m. here?

Delo,

you do realise that poland gains german culture right?

 

[delosandes]

If both of you know the spoken language I recommend you read the points I have written in order to understand my point of view...

And the answer to both silly questions are NO and YES respectively...

 

[Cakravarti]

I am not going to read every fucking thing youve written. I just thought that maybe you didnt know Poland has german culture which helps it out big time. Also Sweden gains german as part of the extra-cultures setup. It wouldnt be fair to her to take it away.

 

[delosandes]

Well if you didn’t read then don’t "fucking" comment on the subject... I won’t explain the Sweden thing again because I’ve already explained it

 

[Cakravarti]

I just thought that maybe you didnt realise poland gained german. Since this a pretty big boost which could have changed your opinion I decided to bring it up. Next time if i cant be bothered to fucking read what youve fucking written I wont bother to fucking comment even if it could fucking help you.

 

[Casluerj]

People you should calm down now!

Now my coments:

Poland with German culture, random leaders and Prussia's ubber leadeds is much more more more more stronger than BB, Delo. Only you dont think so. Also Poland in the beggining rule in Central Europe, so you can dictate your terms to both, Russia and Austria, its all a matter of how good do you play.

On the other hand, I think that everyone should play what it would like, since EU2 MP is already to hard to keep reliability (everyone here has RL problems), unless this choice isnt good for game balance.

Being BB/Prussia wouldnt fuck the game up and you have the "right" of first choice since your are a ATE1 payer (so you could also be Spain, OE and Russia, took by new players), but I really think you should re-consider your opnion in a more objective way Delo and play Poland.

Keep this polite or I'll ask TG for some penalties.

 

[unmerged(11287)]

I just thought that maybe you didnt realise poland gained german. Since this a pretty big boost which could have changed your opinion I decided to bring it up. Next time if i cant be bothered to fucking read what youve fucking written I wont bother to fucking comment even if it could fucking help you.

:rofl:

 

[unmerged(11287)]

summing up what's writen above; Delosandes talks too much.

 

[the_genius]

Hey, I'll repeat what Cas said: Calm down a little bit.. and try to reduce the use of the f word, we have been a nice and cool group for quite a while, let's keep it this way.

Thanks also to Cas for summarize a bit the main ideas..

Well, in order to solve this thing already: Delosandes, if you are having real problems on playing Poland, then we will change that country back again to BB. As Cas said, it won't hurt having BB back.

 

[delosandes]

I just thought that maybe you didnt realise poland gained german. Since this a pretty big boost which could have changed your opinion I decided to bring it up. Next time if i cant be bothered to fucking read what youve fucking written I wont bother to fucking comment even if it could fucking help you.

Ok sorry about that...

Well, in order to solve this thing already: Delosandes, if you are having real problems on playing Poland, then we will change that country back again to BB. As Cas said, it won't hurt having BB back.

ok i`ll take poland it doesn´t matter

 

[unmerged(11287)]

it's already proven you have bad mood , why you turned back in your desire of being BB now?

Edit: Poland is nice, i didn't understand your arguments, they're all empty. This is not a fair game, it's a game trying to imitate History. No real justice about countries. If you had a brain this would be obvious in the first sight at this game. I really want to spit in the faces of those who likes confussing (abusing) the term "balance". Balance is something everyone constructs in group, dividing and teaming up around to have a more enjoyable long term. Balance doesn't mean a country should be "equal" to others or auto-sufficient.

This misunderstanding made ppl like RyoKe n to create stupid scenarios screwing up our common sense to create a perfect balance in the game. then ppl winning in these (unrealistic) "fair" scenarios that made some other ppl to conclude (erroneously) they're awesome and good players when in fact they suck because the whole base failed.

Peter's scenario is much better than Ryo one in fact.

 

[the_genius]

There's no need to continue on this, Javier.. so.. please...

 

[unmerged(11287)]

There's no need to continue on this, Javier.. so.. please...

look out, i edited

 

[delosandes]

it's already proven you have bad mood

It has only proven that I had a bad morning that’s all... I learned the lesson and said sorry...

why you turned back in your desire of being BB now?

I still prefer BB over Poland, its just that the GM had chosen Poland (as the rest did) so I decided to stop complaining because of a silly thing, Poland isn’t that awful just like TG already said...

About the last thing (I don’t want to make this post too long because then you will say that I talk too much)... I didn’t want to make a more balancing scenario... I just preferred BB instead of Poland... no one is using BB (and everyone is saying that it’s worst than Poland) so I don’t understand why would that be balancing

 

[unmerged(11287)]

About the last thing (I don’t want to make this post too long because then you will say that I talk too much)... I didn’t want to make a more balancing scenario... I just preferred BB instead of Poland... no one is using BB (and everyone is saying that it’s worst than Poland) so I don’t understand why would that be balancing

Trying to edit more things, no matter what (lands, leaders, tech, etc etc) to a country is like trying to modify a scenario. Meanwhile i kill 2 birds in 1 shot, as you could appreciate I am complaining about the chosen scenario too.

 

[the_genius]

Well, as the situation has been solved .. we can continue with our upcoming first session.. so...

About the random leaders thingy, if no one else send me his choices I will post the savefile this afternoon at the statspage so you can finally take a look to those leaders and all that... and Fraese can have it to host us

 

[Casluerj]

Well, as the situation has been solved .. we can continue with our upcoming first session.. so...

About the random leaders thingy, if no one else send me his choices I will post the savefile this afternoon at the statspage so you can finally take a look to those leaders and all that... and Fraese can have it to host us

I liked your config. 25 adm and 15 gen to me.