American Republic not working anymore?

[taltamir]

I was playing a game as USA (ironman), got the achievement for winning independence.
Then comes the random event to choose the form of government to replace the articles of confederation. This is supposed to be:

• American Republic
  • Change government American Republic.
• Federal Republic
  • Change government Federal Republic.
• Constitutional Monarchy
  • Change government Constitutional Monarchy.

But for some reason I only got the options of "Constitional Republic" and "Constitutional Monarchy". Is USA broken now in 1.12.1.0 common sense?

 

[Mikalos]

iirc, they got rid of the american uniques

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• The Archduchy, Imperial Government, American Republic and Federal Republic government types have been removed due to the new government ranks system handling them dynamically.

 

[taltamir]

Ah, I see now. Thank you

 

[DreadLindwyrm]

It's a shame, since unless there's a really, really good reason the two alternative American governments would have been nice to keep.

I don't quite see how they're handled by the dynamic ranks system, but I might not have noticed something.

 

[taltamir]

Calling the system dynamic is inaccurate, its just that you now have 3 rank tiers in addition to the regular tech tiers. Those 3 rank tiers are duchy, kingdom, and empire. By ranking up (requires specific amount of total development in all your cores) you can get bonuses. Eg, american republic is simulated via a combo of empire rank constitutional republic.
In theory at least.

 

[Mr_Hobo]

What a waste. So all I got with American Dream was events?

 

[Grand Historian]

I say they should at least restore the American Republic and buff it. If England gets English Monarchy, then I see no reason why America can't have American Republic.

 

[DreadLindwyrm]

So what is meant to stand in for Federal Republic? The whole point with giving the USA the two forms of government was surely to simulate the two possible forms that the USA considered early on in its history?

 

[Mr_Hobo]

America could use something cool like reduced penalties on seats of Parliament.

 

[SignedName]

So what is meant to stand in for Federal Republic? The whole point with giving the USA the two forms of government was surely to simulate the two possible forms that the USA considered early on in its history?

American Republic is the Republic according to the Articles of Confederation (Presumably) and has 7 year terms, while the Federal Republic has four year terms. I really wish PDS had made unique American federal mechanics for Common Sense (because as of now, the current Parliamentary system doesn't make much sense for the USA).

 

[Olaus Petrus]

I'm bit disappointed that the USA lost unique form of government, especially when it's part of the paid content. But it really isn't a surprise that the American Dream DLC gets shafted when new DLCs are released.

 

[Maria Theresa]

I'm bit disappointed that the USA lost unique form of government, especially when it's part of the paid content. But it really isn't a surprise that the American Dream DLC gets shafted when new DLCs are released.

American Dream is like the red-headed stepchild of Paradox DLC family. There was a point in time when for like 2 expansion the dlc didn't even work due to added/changed mechanics and it took them like 6 months to fix it.

 

[Kapitalisti]

The US should really have a unique government. It WAS a pretty damn unique thing when it was launched after all.

 

[Mr_Hobo]

I'd rework it so that:

1) Reduced seat penalties. The US had lots of Representatives, and while this did cause problems I don't think the penalties should be as severe.

2) No State Church, more religious randomness. The US has no official religion, and even though Protestantism dominated there wasn't a set doctrine. There should be some sort of religious freedom replacement, granting more cultural acceptance or something. Maybe tie this in to the Convention mechanism.

3) A Constitutional Convention mechanic to build your nation ala Civil Colonization. This could be an offshoot of the State Church. Pick your attributes, whether you favor a state church or not, etc. Could be used for all post-Colonial nations.

 

[Grand Historian]

What a waste. So all I got with American Dream was events?

And some nifty Unit Models.

 

[taltamir]

America could use something cool like reduced penalties on seats of Parliament.

I think american republic should automatically give a seat to every province you own.
The bonuses are worthwhile, and the penalty caps out at 50 provinces, while the bonuses have no cap.
This will make for an interesting playstyle too, since you are limited on raising your stability.
Alternatively... actually have states, that is, certain amount of provinces can band together to form a state and thus get a seat.

 

[Rain Envy]

Archduchy is still in. was that suppose to be removed?

 

[DreadLindwyrm]

Archduchy is still in. was that suppose to be removed?

The government form is removed, but an Austrian duchy will be called an archduchy.

 

[Mauer]

I never got to play with the American Republic since for some reason the American Dream never went on sale until about a week ago. Same for the Archuduchy but that was because I find being emperor tedious.