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In light of new revelations that Earhart may have been a captive of the Japanese, does anyone think the Earhart event could use another outcome?
 

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Photo is apparently legit.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...survived-plane-crash-captured-japanese-newly/

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So you're saying Star Trek Voyager got it wrong?
I was thinking that too. My wife and I are going through all of the Star Treks from the original to TNG, DSN, and Voyager. I'll have to tell her that she was actually captured by the Japanese when we get to it.
 

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The idea of her being captured by Japanese is old. It has remained tinfoil hatter stuff for now... And likely will remain so from now on as well.

Photo is apparently legit.

Quite possible the photo itself is untampered. Whether the crouching figure is even a women let alone Earhart is different question. Or if it's even taken in 1937. I can't help but to make wry smile when this is supposed to provide proof "beyond reasonable doubt".
 

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The idea of her being captured by Japanese is old. It has remained tinfoil hatter stuff for now... And likely will remain so from now on as well.



Quite possible the photo itself is untampered. Whether the crouching figure is even a women let alone Earhart is different question. Or if it's even taken in 1937. I can't help but to make wry smile when this is supposed to provide proof "beyond reasonable doubt".
"In the documentary, the newly discovered photograph is subjected to facial-recognition and other forensic testing. It is judged authentic, and likely to be that of Earhart and Noonan.

“When you see the analysis that’s been done, I think it leaves no doubt to the viewers,” Shawn Henry, a former executive assistant director for the FBI told NBC News.

It is claimed that the photo shows Earhart and Noonan on a dock in the Marshall Islands, with the Japanese ship, the Koshu, towing Earhart's plane in the background.

The photo was discovered by Les Kinney, a retired US treasury agent, who has spent years trying to unravel the mystery of the Earhart expedition.

He said the photo “clearly indicates that Earhart was captured by the Japanese”."


Why do people say conspiracy when I just hear about this information for the first time? That seems closed minded to me. Can you offer counter evidence to what has been presented here? Or is it just your word that it's tin foil hat stuff?
 
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Japanese authorities told NBC that there are no records indicating that Earhart was in Japanese custody.

Yes, well, there were no records of a lot of things, in the Pacific area of WW2.


There's been a few accounts from islanders, about having seen things that would indicate Earhart and Noonan crash-landed at one of the islands.

But that article is pretty vague. Says the picture was in "a formerly top-secret file". But what is the context of that file ? Who took that picture ? When was it taken ? Where ?

The suggestion that the US Government knew about things and chose to do nothing, is also something that needs a lot more backing up with evidence.

It makes for a better story though.
 

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It seem to be a photo of a white man & very likely a white woman with the right type of plane on the barge behind the ship. I don't think the photo is a fake. I do think the photo is from the time period. And it is strong indication that she landed safely & was in Japanese custody.
 

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Yes, well, there were no records of a lot of things, in the Pacific area of WW2.


There's been a few accounts from islanders, about having seen things that would indicate Earhart and Noonan crash-landed at one of the islands.

But that article is pretty vague. Says the picture was in "a formerly top-secret file". But what is the context of that file ? Who took that picture ? When was it taken ? Where ?

The suggestion that the US Government knew about things and chose to do nothing, is also something that needs a lot more backing up with evidence.

It makes for a better story though.

Apparently the gentleman who took the photo was later executed for being a spy.
 

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But I thought she crashed into the Hindenburg? Thats what Daniel said.
 

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Well I understand why people have doubts. It happened ages ago, in a region which even today does not have any infrastructure. But I saw the whole picture, this is only a part of it, and in the back of the whole picture you can actually also see a plane which is exactly the same Earheart used. And since the face of her associate is more visible and experts concurr that he might be indeed her associate, my stomach tells me there might actually be more to this story. Japan and America were frenemies at that time. If the japanese were in position to prevent an ideological victory to their frenemies, and teach an "insubordinate" woman a lesson at the same time... I mean at that time, they were already massacring civilians. Disposing of her silently certainly would not have been a "biggy" for the japanese at that time, they did way worse on a daily basis and in public.
 

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Two questions pop to my mind:
-She does not appear to be a prisoner in the picture
-Why would the Japanese make her a prisoner on 1937? If the American public found out they would clamor for war with Japan. Also, a white American woman would probably stand out in a Japanese prison or detention camp so it would be hard to keep her interment a secret. Wouldn't it be a better publicity boost to say that the mighty Japanese navy had saved the famous aviator?

Call me skeptic about this finding.
 

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Well I understand why people have doubts. It happened ages ago, in a region which even today does not have any infrastructure. But I saw the whole picture, this is only a part of it, and in the back of the whole picture you can actually also see a plane which is exactly the same Earheart used. And since the face of her associate is more visible and experts concurr that he might be indeed her associate, my stomach tells me there might actually be more to this story. Japan and America were frenemies at that time. If the japanese were in position to prevent an ideological victory to their frenemies, and teach an "insubordinate" woman a lesson at the same time... I mean at that time, they were already massacring civilians. Disposing of her silently certainly would not have been a "biggy" for the japanese at that time, they did way worse on a daily basis and in public.

Back then iirc the Marshalls were being secretly improved and fortified despite agreements the Japanese had signed when they accepted the mandate from the League of Nations. The Japanese would not have wanted that to get out and would have been a little paranoid about what Earhart and Noonan had seen. Their "capture" might have made it up to the level of the commanding officer of the area and he took care of the issue without bothering the government. The Japanese military was operating with disregard to whatever the politicians in Tokyo thought or wanted during this time. Tokyo wouldn't have any records of it because they never knew it happened until maybe after the fact and at that point it would have been inconvenient to document.

If the picture is real and the analysis is good then it does look like Earhart and Noonan landed safely in the Marshalls.
 

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This atoll she 'landed' on in the Marshall Islands isn't really anywhere near Howland Island. I say we keep the event as it is now. So far the Star Trek Voyager version is the most realistic of these theories.
 
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