Amazing WW2 Facts...

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I'm I the only one more than a little disturbed by all the "LOL" remarks after listing kill ratios? :wacko:

not.

 

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remember the japs and the krauts were the cause of the war. not the other way round, and like one of you guys said, the winners get to say what they want .

Rule Britainia !

There are other wars fought too where others were cause of the war.

And I dont like that "LOL"s after casualty figures. Criticizing them I can understand but making fun of them I can not accept.

Also there is no need here to remark that somebody is cause of something, I think this kind of posting is against if not forum rules than it is against moral rules.

 

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remember the japs and the krauts were the cause of the war. not the other way round, and like one of you guys said, the winners get to say what they want .

Rule Britainia !

I think the actuall cause of the war (the european one anyway) dates back to 28.06.1919. After that humilating 'treaty' it wasn't really the question if a second war would come, but when. It's my believe that all this could have been prevented by a resonable conclusion of ww1.

 

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Yes. The versailles treaty helped Hitler to rise to power.

 

[Penegrin]

I think the actuall cause of the war (the european one anyway) dates back to 28.06.1919. After that humilating 'treaty' it wasn't really the question if a second war would come, but when. It's my believe that all this could have been prevented by a resonable conclusion of ww1.

I'll second that...

 

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I think the actuall cause of the war (the european one anyway) dates back to 28.06.1919. After that humilating 'treaty' it wasn't really the question if a second war would come, but when. It's my believe that all this could have been prevented by a resonable conclusion of ww1.

Even further back for the Japanese... While Japan was dedicated to building an empire from the late 19th century there seems to have been a major change in attitude after the sino-japanese war (1894-95). When it became clear that the european powers were willing to deny Japanese expansion through coordinated action. Like Germany, Japan was revisionist in the sense that they felt they had been 'cheated' of their status as an imperial power.

Interestingly Versailles cemented this feeling when the Japanese proposed a racial equality clause and were unceremoniously turned down by everybody, especially the americans.

If you ask me (and nobody ever does ) the cause of the world wars was the late 19th century creation of several new and reasonably powerful states which had been convinced by the british and french examples that the imperial model was the route to security and prosperity. They were trying to sieze 'a place in the sun' at about the same time that the existing imperial / colonial powers were realising that their position was un-sustainable and that imperialism had gone too far.

 

[UncleAlias]

remember the japs and the krauts were the cause of the war. not the other way round, and like one of you guys said

And so? Does that make it right to mock their dead?

I'm neither Japanese, nor German, not by a long shot, but I find that kind of remarks deeply offensive.

the winners get to say what they want .

Spoken like a true non-historian.

 

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Its off topic but i have a question for everyone, mainly the mods

Why is this thread still open?

1) people make fun of casulties and the like

2) this thread has nothing to do with Hoi2.


Sorry i dident want to act like some self appointed forum police but oh well

 

[BiB]

This thread has become unamazing.

 

[BiB]

Oh, and if posts upset you, PM the mod of the forum (ForzaA in this case) so he can take a look at it.