If I pre-order Eu4, can I be sent a free bun instead of the DLC? 
EDIT: With spices, naturally.
EDIT: With spices, naturally.
Am I the only one that's a little thrown off by this?
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They don't mail well. However! If you pre-order I will be happy to eat a bun on your behalf!
Actually, they just charge you for the sugar and milk whether you take it not
Yes. That's why I said "give it to you without any additional charge", rather than "give it to you for free".
I think you're kind of missing the point of the analogy, which is that there are some cases where it's possible to enjoy the product without the [DLC, milk, whatever], the [DLC, milk, whatever] costs a bit more for the company, but nevertheless it's not unreasonable to feel slightly swindled if you're suddenly expected to pay more for it. If you're really finding this aspect of the analogy difficult, though, I could change it to something like being charged extra for a fork to eat your cake with. It's possible to eat your cake with just your fingers, buying cutlery represents an extra cost for the café, and I'd imagine that everybody who was offered a fork would take it; is it therefore unreasonable and entitled to expect not to have to pay for a fork?
I never get a fork when I buy cake.
But in these terms, the fork is a convenience. Such as getting access to a special unit with higher combat stats.
Shameful where games are going. Then every two months there is DLC where some of it should be included with the game or more with the DLC. For example I purchased the Old Gods for CK2 and yet I don't get the damned portraits or music that should go with with it! No, I need to pay another 5 and 2 dollars. Then to just to put the icing on the cake all that DLC gets 90 percent off in another two months. Way to screw over your fans Paradox. But whatever makes that extra buck right?
I might be overly harsh but there is still way too much truth in what i'm saying. The truth is that EA led all devs here, so why shouldn't Paradox do the same thing? Right now the only one that doesn't is the Witcher Devs...and they have my respect for it. As long as we keep forking over the cash, the devs will keep on doing this. Don't blame Paradox, blame ourselves for putting up with this crap.
GreatSlayer, you are part of the problem my friend. Don't worry you're not alone it appears.
Exactly what I think, I would be interested in a poll to know what % of people like micro DLC or don't like them.
Let me just bend over first. Okay...Paradox, I'm ready now.
EDIT - how fitting a comment too for my 69 post.
EDIT - how fitting a comment too for my 69 post.
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Alright, wise guys, I challenge you to come up with an objectively better system, where I still get the extra DLC content as soon as possible and have as much choice in what I pay for and what I don't. Since if you just combined the DLC with the base game, the game would just be more expensive anyway, that option is inferior since I can't choose if I want the DLC content or not. (It just so happens that I do want it on this occasion, but if I didn't and Paradox combined it anyway, I'd be rather annoyed that I'd be paying for a mandatory 'bonus' I didn't want.)
Same with the micro-DLCs - I'd rather pay 10 monetary units for DLC X and leave the music and face expansions (1 monetary unit each) than be forced to pay 12 monetary units for my DLC X content bundled with the faces and music I didn't want.
Same with the micro-DLCs - I'd rather pay 10 monetary units for DLC X and leave the music and face expansions (1 monetary unit each) than be forced to pay 12 monetary units for my DLC X content bundled with the faces and music I didn't want.
aslong as the dlc doesnt change the balance of the game, such as buying certain units, which have better/different stats..
then i dont care. because i wont be buying any dlc from any company which releases dlc on release days L O L
then i dont care. because i wont be buying any dlc from any company which releases dlc on release days L O L
I think, regardless of the intention or how you put it, players will always feel gypped by Day 1 DLC. I think it's the notion that someone is trying to monetize before the game is even out yet.
I love how people prefer to pay $20 on an expansion with units and music instead of paying 15$ dollars on an expansion and then $2 on the units and other $2 on the music
Though I have to say, release day DLCs are not the best, not because I don't like them, I don't mind them, but the general public usually goes ferocious over it, even if the base game is as complete as any other installment of the series (CiV case). Irrational, yes, but it is a thing that exists and is followed by a large number of persons.
Though I have to say, release day DLCs are not the best, not because I don't like them, I don't mind them, but the general public usually goes ferocious over it, even if the base game is as complete as any other installment of the series (CiV case). Irrational, yes, but it is a thing that exists and is followed by a large number of persons.
I have a problem when that same dlc is 90 percent off in a month or two. Sure we could wait but that really just punishes the true fans. And that simply isn't right. If they can afford to make that big a sales that short after, then they sure can afford to cut the price back or package it with the game or other dlc right off the bat.
I'd personally like it if one was able to purchase dlc gift cards.
In that you pay $15 or so on day one and get $20 worth of any dlc in the future that comes out with the game. So the developers get the money right away and I feel like I get a deal when it comes out.
Conversely it'd be neat if buying the game got you one free dlc (under $5 or so) that you can redeem any time. So if you wanted to only play as the Western powers to start with you could, then if you felt inclined you could buy another dlc.
In that you pay $15 or so on day one and get $20 worth of any dlc in the future that comes out with the game. So the developers get the money right away and I feel like I get a deal when it comes out.
Conversely it'd be neat if buying the game got you one free dlc (under $5 or so) that you can redeem any time. So if you wanted to only play as the Western powers to start with you could, then if you felt inclined you could buy another dlc.
I haven't bought Norse faces (mostly out of irritation with Norse, Norse everywhere) and only got Russian units when I could get them for fifty cents because I don't play anyone it applies to, but I got faces since I still marry into there, so, who knows? More importantly, I've only ever bought the music packs for places I actually play - I got the Muslim pack and Byzantine music pack on day 1, but never purchased Albion, Holy Land, or the (sigh) Norse.
I do agree it'd be nice to be able to buy them all in a bundle, just for simplicity's sake. It's a dizzying amount of DLCs for new players, I think.
I've poked around in this thread a bit and I think my mind has been changed. Thanks, Darkrenown!
edit: Also, I should add that this thread wasn't meant to disparage the great work you guys and gals do. I've whittled away countless hours on CK2 and I love the fact that there's so much free content added on a regular basis.
edit: Also, I should add that this thread wasn't meant to disparage the great work you guys and gals do. I've whittled away countless hours on CK2 and I love the fact that there's so much free content added on a regular basis.
I don't mind paying for content, provided it is good quality content. I think we've all been put off by experiences with EA and Activision regarding day one DLC.
So in order to fully enjoy EU4 I have to pre-order 2 months in advance, find 10 or so friends who are willing to sign in with that Call to Arms stuff and of course buy the Digital Edition since Paradox actually included day 1 DLC that is affecting gameplay. Lovely.
I spend a lot of money (like most of you here) supporting Paradox but this is going way overboard and will likely alienate some fans who don't have that much money to spend on one game. The Old Gods expansion which didn't feature faces and music for 15 euros was absolutely ridiculous. Paradox DLC policy will soon become one of the worst in industry because their most loyal fans are getting the worst treatment since 3 months later the game is 75% off...
I spend a lot of money (like most of you here) supporting Paradox but this is going way overboard and will likely alienate some fans who don't have that much money to spend on one game. The Old Gods expansion which didn't feature faces and music for 15 euros was absolutely ridiculous. Paradox DLC policy will soon become one of the worst in industry because their most loyal fans are getting the worst treatment since 3 months later the game is 75% off...
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Me Reading this Thread:
I can't Understand why people are acting like they are going broke over $5.
Why Is it so bad that PI have people sitting around doing nothing paying them for nothing, to have them work on some DLC's (Which you don't have to buy!) and make some (Very little money) on. Which in turn pays for these guy's wages. Plus they are also give away some free DLC for each month ahead you per-order! Not only that!!!! BUT If you have EU3 on Steam you get 10% off. So now you're only paying 00.50¢ more. You can't go wrong! Even at $5. It was content made on the side. Not part of the base game. Although this isn't really unheard of. Publishers Do this all the time with Per-Order code and even Collectors Edition. No one ever said a word about that. You're not entitled to this content made on the side. Leave Darkrenown alone.
The bad this is, I got Europa Universalis III Chronicles for free form PI. I feel as if I took $30 out of Darkrenown pocket. He didn't even know! Now I'm going back to take another $5. He won't even see me. I keep going like this Darkrenown is going to end up in the poor house with no buns!
To the people who are crying this is what you look like:
Is $5 really to much? You don't even need to buy it! You're not entitled to this content. I'm quite happy with all of the extra content I'm going to get just for Per-Ordering and for the DEE that i'm only paying 00.50¢ more for.
I can't Understand why people are acting like they are going broke over $5.
Why Is it so bad that PI have people sitting around doing nothing paying them for nothing, to have them work on some DLC's (Which you don't have to buy!) and make some (Very little money) on. Which in turn pays for these guy's wages. Plus they are also give away some free DLC for each month ahead you per-order! Not only that!!!! BUT If you have EU3 on Steam you get 10% off. So now you're only paying 00.50¢ more. You can't go wrong! Even at $5. It was content made on the side. Not part of the base game. Although this isn't really unheard of. Publishers Do this all the time with Per-Order code and even Collectors Edition. No one ever said a word about that. You're not entitled to this content made on the side. Leave Darkrenown alone.
The bad this is, I got Europa Universalis III Chronicles for free form PI. I feel as if I took $30 out of Darkrenown pocket. He didn't even know! Now I'm going back to take another $5. He won't even see me. I keep going like this Darkrenown is going to end up in the poor house with no buns!
To the people who are crying this is what you look like:
Is $5 really to much? You don't even need to buy it! You're not entitled to this content. I'm quite happy with all of the extra content I'm going to get just for Per-Ordering and for the DEE that i'm only paying 00.50¢ more for.
The paranoia and ignorance of some of the gaming community (and humanity in general) truly astounds me. It's almost like they think every Paradox meeting goes like this:
[video=youtube;P6MOnehCOUw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6MOnehCOUw[/video]
[video=youtube;P6MOnehCOUw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6MOnehCOUw[/video]
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