I totally agree with you
The funny part is that i work on MEIOU to make the game more interesting... and still can't compute much and get blown away by the game's mechanics
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I totally agree with you
The funny part is that i work on MEIOU to make the game more interesting... and still can't compute much and get blown away by the game's mechanics
I've done a fair bit of "spreadsheets" (you need to figure out how something does/doesn't work to properly assess whether it works as advertised) but when I'm actually playing, I somehow completely forget about it
Sure, there's favourite bits and pieces (ideas, sliders, whatnot) but hardly an all-encompassing path to greatness.
Sure, there's favourite bits and pieces (ideas, sliders, whatnot) but hardly an all-encompassing path to greatness.
I just attack everyone. I never bother to understand the mechanics.
Though reading a strategy guide recently gave me an understanding of how it works. I just sort of know what to do...Not why what I do works.
Though reading a strategy guide recently gave me an understanding of how it works. I just sort of know what to do...Not why what I do works.
I personally like to know how everything works and what setting in what file is responsible for.
I also love the strategy guides, and read them all.
But i am not doing spreadsheets or in-depht analysis myself (but i make notes and drawings while playing),
i just try to use the knowledge i aquired by reading, in the game as good as possible.
I also love the strategy guides, and read them all.
But i am not doing spreadsheets or in-depht analysis myself (but i make notes and drawings while playing),
i just try to use the knowledge i aquired by reading, in the game as good as possible.
I'll claim the middle ground here. On the one hand I can sympathize with RRW's original point -- especially since building games I know that knowing too much can take a bit of the fun of exploring out of the gaming experience -- on the other hand I could never bring myself to make what I know to be a poor decision just for the sake of roleplaying or whatever.
My first two ideas are almost always military drill and national bank.
My first two ideas are almost always military drill and national bank.
I'll claim the middle ground here. On the one hand I can sympathize with RRW's original point -- especially since building games I know that knowing too much can take a bit of the fun of exploring out of the gaming experience -- on the other hand I could never bring myself to make what I know to be a poor decision just for the sake of roleplaying or whatever.
My first two ideas are almost always military drill and national bank.
I nodded while reading your post, until the very last emoticon. I think that should be a
I think the only reason that would be aI nodded while reading your post, until the very last emoticon. I think that should be a
is if a poor decision in the game would be a good decision in 'real life'. I don't roleplay people trying to mess up their country - I just like to roleplay people who want to succeed while having little or no more knowledge than they (would have) had. It's a way of 'exploring' history, from the inside, basically.
I think the only reason that would be a
When some ideas are must haves to run your country well... where's the fun in that? It's just bad design of the ideas if some are obvious choices imo.
I don't think this needs to have anything to do with "must have" or "no brainer" choices. For any given country in any given situation there will always be good and bad choices - both in real life and in the games. If these generally align, that is a good thing, to my mind.
But if the good choices are always the same ideas, how can that be a good thing? If an idea isn't a real choice then don't list it with the others but make it an event or a decision.
Then again, the more I played around with EU:3 the more I became convinced the whole idea system is a mistake: huge boni to nations at certain points on the timeline no choice beyond a good and a bad one for your nation.
It might just be me, but I don't feel happy when I am presented with a moment of choice, yet not having any.
Oh, you are talking about the "National Ideas"? Sorry - I was takling about ideas and decisions in general, not the game-artefacts that are called "Ideas" and "Decisions".
In that case I agree with you - there are some ideas that are just too much "essential". I am not sure the problem is really with the 'Ideas' themselves, though. To lower your inflation, for example, there are exactly three ways I know of to do it -
1) Leave yourself defenceless
2) Pick 'National Bank' as an Idea
3) Get an extremely competent 'Master of the Mint' Adviser
The best way is doing both (2) and (3).
Surely, if a government is levying taxes, it is able to support a reasonable army and navy without massive over-minting? Medieval governments certainly did - even though the taxes were partially paid 'in kind' by the peasants (this enabled the landlords to pay cash). Inflation from minting only happens when you mint more than needed to replace "natural wastage" (coins lost, hoarded, worn out or melted down for their metal content). If the threshold for null-inflation was set a little higher, the "National Bank" idea would not be an absolute neccessity - just a nice, useful boost.
'Military Drill' is really "only" useful if you have land borders. Then, it is arguably too good. Maybe it should extend build times, as well as improving morale?
I nodded while reading your post, until the very last emoticon. I think that should be a
Then again those two are the only complete no-brainers in the system (And military drill is not a *complete* no-brainer). Picks three, four and beyond are wide open and entirely dependent on what you're aiming to do. Some of the Naval ideas suck too bad to even consider, and there are a couple of other ones that could probably use a boost as well. Patron of the arts certainly got better now with DW, though!
On the whole, though, national ideas are one of the best concepts in EUIII. I wish there were more of them.
On the whole, though, national ideas are one of the best concepts in EUIII. I wish there were more of them.
Make it happen!
Patron of the arts certainly got better now with DW, though!
I don't know what changed in DW, but "Patron of the Arts" got a serious boost in HttT already, IMHO, with it increasing cultural tradition. Cultural tradition is a pretty valuable commodity with that it allows you to hire the advisor of your choice.
However, remembering the title of the thread, in my ignorance I often do not make the obvious choice. It usually becomes obvious after someone else points it out ahead of time, or I make the wrong choice and have to learn from my mistake. But that's just me in my ignorance.
I'm happy with my ignorance
My feelings exactly. Nicely said.