Am I safe?

[unmerged(95044)]

Hi!
I am playing a game as Transvaal in vanilla victoria rev. It has been fun game and it has gone far better than I had thought it would and I have managed to increase my population from 500k to 25 million. It is now the year 1900 and I am wondering if the Boer war will occur or if I am safe. I do not quite understand the syntax in the event files, but I looked at the event and saw that the event was set to be checked in 1899 in october. It is now a year since the event was supposed to happen and I am wondering if it will ever happen. I saw that the event checks for if Transvaal and Orange exists. I wiped out Orange quite early so they do not exist but the conditions is neither ORd or ANDed so I don't know if it makes any difference. Other than that I can't see any reason why the event should not happend. Is there an offset to the event so it may happend later?

 

[Eärendil]

There is no offset, so if you didn't have a peace treaty with the UK on October 10 1899 they probably chose action b, "Let the claims rest". Check the history page on the ledger on that date and see if it mentions the event for the UK.

 

[unmerged(131989)]

If there is no "OR = { }" then it automatically assumes that it is "AND = { }". So if Oranje doesn't exists on that date, it will not fire.

 

[WanderingKnight]

I’m currently playing as Transvaal as well. And I’m close to abounding the game. It’s scenario 1861, and I’m now in 1895. The state is huge by the size since I colonized surrounding provinces, after I conquered Oranje and took some land to the south from Portuguese, but the size of the entire population is barley over two millions. However the reason why I want to quit is the war that I had with British. When I felt I’m strong enough (1881) military and industrious I did attacked them planning to take couple of provinces (those with Dutch pop or neighbouring). Oh boy, what an error. I spent 15 years of fight, mostly very successfully, but completely useless. I took whole South Africa. Than I took all other British possession in Africa, Islands in Atlantic and Pacific etc. I hold strong without any chance that they got it from me not even for a moment; BUT THEY JUST REFUSED to sign any kind of peace involved loosing even ONE tiny 1% worth province. I had advantage in-between 22 and 27 percent all the time. At the end they did not want to sign even white peace. Stupid idiots. At the end after more than a decades they offer me an even peace, so (I was tired to play actually any more)o I accepted. I’m not going to continue any more, since I find those 15 years wasted, I could spent money and people that I invest into that war, much more wisely. Bah.

This is my second serious game after many years. First was a grand campaign with Serbia. Now, that was a walk over the thorns. Very painful experience – first because I did not know how to play properly and second because of great disadvantage that you have starting as orthodox vassal of Muslims and neighbouring huge unfriendly catholic.

Just one more question. Sims like Africa getting very slowly (if, at all) colonized by European or anyone else in my games. What s the reason? Is that common or got to do with something else?

edit: O, it's just plain vanila Victoria game.

 

[byzantium43]

I’m currently playing as Transvaal as well. And I’m close to abounding the game. It’s scenario 1861, and I’m now in 1895. The state is huge by the size since I colonized surrounding provinces, after I conquered Oranje and took some land to the south from Portuguese, but the size of the entire population is barley over two millions. However the reason why I want to quit is the war that I had with British. When I felt I’m strong enough (1881) military and industrious I did attacked them planning to take couple of provinces (those with Dutch pop or neighbouring). Oh boy, what an error. I spent 15 years of fight, mostly very successfully, but completely useless. I took whole South Africa. Than I took all other British possession in Africa, Islands in Atlantic and Pacific etc. I hold strong without any chance that they got it from me not even for a moment; BUT THEY JUST REFUSED to sign any kind of peace involved loosing even ONE tiny 1% worth province. I had advantage in-between 22 and 27 percent all the time. At the end they did not want to sign even white peace. Stupid idiots. At the end after more than a decades they offer me an even peace, so (I was tired to play actually any more)o I accepted. I’m not going to continue any more, since I find those 15 years wasted, I could spent money and people that I invest into that war, much more wisely. Bah.

This is my second serious game after many years. First was a grand campaign with Serbia. Now, that was a walk over the thorns. Very painful experience – first because I did not know how to play properly and second because of great disadvantage that you have starting as orthodox vassal of Muslims and neighbouring huge unfriendly catholic.

Just one more question. Sims like Africa getting very slowly (if, at all) colonized by European or anyone else in my games. What s the reason? Is that common or got to do with something else?

edit: O, it's just plain vanila Victoria game.

type neville into the console then try to make a peace treaty. Sure its cheating, but its barely an exploit if you offer a moderate peace treaty just to bypass a stubborn AI. (I had the exact same problem when I Played as Oranje.)

 

[unmerged(131989)]

Yeah got to agree! The AI is probably the area of Vicky which the source code developers need to work on most!

 

[WanderingKnight]

Thanks for the tips.

I cannot continue that game even if I want that, now. I’ve finally noticed that I’m playing without any patch. Dumb me. (I recall I had it on, years ago, but since the game was completely erased from comp, installation, of course, went without any patch). So I uploaded 1.4, and it’s not possible any more to play old saved games.

So I start anew one. Transvaal 1861. The game itself is MUCH more playable now with all improvements of the patch. Africa gets colonized fairly and in a way that was colonized historically, more or less.

I did everything I did previous time (only not touching British South African colonies). So I got rest of South Africa united, adding South Rhodesia and Botswana and Lorenzo Marques and two other Mozambique provinces.

But I have a serious problem on other side, this time. It’s 1901 already and my population is still 2 millions or so. It must be a presidential dictatorship that Transvaal has. I find myself in a huge riot all over the state. My troupes were running up and down in order to suppress the mutiny in every corner of the country.

Two problems I have here.

First – how to get rid of this ruling system and switch to republic, monarchy or whatever. Is there any event? Am I making the error trying to kill the rebels (I’m afraid they will just took off, part that they control, in to the independence)? Maybe event is trigger if some of the provinces are rebellious (just guessing). Or it is simply not possible at all.

Other problem is connected to this as well. I’m experiencing lost of my troupes, at a big degree. Something I did not had in unpatched version, I have for the first time NEGATIVE soldier bonus. Well I’ was loosing population while mutiny was on, but negative, I had only 5 squadrons. When I checked, by hovering the mouse, it said something like Dutch 4/4, Ngunu1/3, Shoto1/1 (isn’t that a sign that some troupes were still available).

Any tips on these issues?

Just to add that after CRUSADER KINGS this is second best game of all Paradox that I’ve played.

 

[unmerged(16676)]

Set up a democracy, allow other parties, have sufferage and placing a non extremist party in power, and the game will change your constitution and you can hold elections as normal.

If you let the rioters have the capital you will get a liberal democracy with lots of annoying pops who hate war and expansion and want government giveaways.

 

[unmerged(95044)]

First I like to thank for the quick answer of my question. Appreciate it. The Boers will now conquer all(execpt all countries that can actually fight back )! And now a reply for Wandering Knight:

I belive the negative manpower is because you have more soldiers than you have soldiers POPs to reinforce them. Or you put to little money in defence spending(or a combination of both). Try promoting more POPs to soldiers. Try to promote non-dutch POPs if you can because it hurts your economy more to lose dutch POPs becuase they are of your national culture(national culture POPs work more efficiently). I then suggest you get a democracy in the way FFZ suggested and try to get a liberal or socialist party in power. That will hopefully attract imigrants to your country and help raise your low population. That really helped me in my game. Just make sure you stay out of debt(no imigrants come when you have loans) and also get some social reforms in place(imigrants like social reforms). You don't actually have to pay for the reforms when you have enacted them, it just helps to have enacted them. It raises your POPs Con though when you have social reforms you are not paying for.

 

[WanderingKnight]

Thanks to all.

I believe the negative manpower is because you have more soldiers than you have soldiers POPs to reinforce them. Or you put to little money in defence spending(or a combination of both). Try promoting more POPs to soldiers. Try to promote non-dutch POPs if you can because it hurts your economy more to lose dutch POPs becuase they are of your national culture(national culture POPs work more efficiently). .

My slider for defense and army were on max. so no problem with that. I do also have much more POP soldiers of non-Dutch culture. (4 Dutch and 8 of other different – all of theme native African, since Portuguese are the only European culture that I have but just few of them). And that’s the problem because they just running away disappear (and I do not have any migration out of Transvaal) so do they just got killed?

Look at this funny screen. NO POPULATION at all. I know it’s swamp province with lot of animals, but did the lions eat them all.

 

[WanderingKnight]

I do understand that all of my problems in this game coming because of my ruling system and ruling parties, however seems to me that something is buggy here or I really do not understand how to handle this.o

I then suggest you get a democracy in the way FFZ suggested and try to get a liberal or socialist party in power. That will hopefully attract imigrants to your country and help raise your low population. That really helped me in my game. Just make sure you stay out of debt(no imigrants come when you have loans) and also get some social reforms in place(imigrants like social reforms). You don't actually have to pay for the reforms when you have enacted them, it just helps to have enacted them. It raises your POPs Con though when you have social reforms you are not paying for.

I could not change to democracy at the beginning since the options for universal suffrage was freezed for some reason. When I start again the game - I noticed it was not any more, so either I did not paid attention when that happened or game it self went crazy first time.
Anyway after that I did switched to U.Suf., but it did not let me hold election. Look at this:




Than I reloaded and let the partisans to take Pretoria. Than for the first time I got event screen, saying I’m in Democracy now. So I hold the election. I change sliders to max. reform I could (that won’t hurt my economy) however not even after 1911 that any new party arrived, I still have just this two parties to choose and they are both conservative (least to say ).

 

[unmerged(95044)]

The reason why you did not change to a democracy when you switched to universal suffrage was because you did not allow public meetings. Allow public meetings and it should work. It seems strange that you only have two parties . I had like 4 parties(reactionaries, liberals, conservatives and anarcho liberals) at the start of my game in 1836. Did you have other parties at the begining? Maybee it has something to do with the revolution?

 

[WanderingKnight]

The reason why you did not change to a democracy when you switched to universal suffrage was because you did not allow public meetings. Allow public meetings and it should work.

Wow, thanks. This is small but immportant detail that I did not know about.

It seems strange that you only have two parties . I had like 4 parties(reactionaries, liberals, conservatives and anarcho liberals) at the start of my game in 1836. Did you have other parties at the begining? Maybee it has something to do with the revolution?

Yes,it is strange. Maybe in Revolution is different than just Victoria 1.4. In my game as Serbia I did not had any problem like this (and I did play unpatched version) were I had two parties at the beggining , however as the time pass, new parties arrived and some old desapiered. So I have much larger population on about the same (or even smaller) size of state at the end of the game. In this case maybe they tried to be historicly accurate so only those parties that acctualy existed in this Dutch state were shown up (I'm not familiar with history of South Africa that much but I do not think that any other political option existed there at all). All the parties that I had in Serbia game were exactly as they were in real life (those who made this game did it so good, that all, from the name to what they acctualy represent was true to a small details - good job!)

Thank you SwedishTiger for help.

 

[unmerged(16676)]

That was my fault, I forgot to say allow public meetings, sorry.