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No mater when you cancel, you then go the next five years without the option of taking a mission. Unless a mission's conditions to make it a possible mission are no longer true, that mission will never leave your list of possible missions. IE: The list does not update or change unless you actually complete the conditions of a mission or start working towards finishing it on your own.

So? Why do you need to have an active mission at every possible moment of the game. Don't like your missions and don't think they will fade away? Just pick one and cancel. That is a decent solution for the problem of having impossible missions.

Also, no mission is truly impossible. Improving relations with Morocco, for example. Just stop being their rival and, instead, set one of their rivals as one of your own. Then improve relations, give gifts etc. Sure, it is not practical, but not impossible either. If you don't want it, again, just cancel or pick something else.
 

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You can cancel your mission. Also, I believe that if you simply doesn't chose any mission, the list will refresh.

Missions list refresh if no mission is chosen? Interesting. Wasn't sure whether this is the case or not.
 

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Missions list refresh if no mission is chosen? Interesting. Wasn't sure whether this is the case or not.

TheDarkMaster says it is not actually the case, though, and I think he is likely right. Instead, if you don't meet the requisites for one mission anymore, said mission will be replaced by something else. So, usually you can just refuse to chose a mission, and eventually at last one of them will change to something else. But it is not guaranteed.
 

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TheDarkMaster says it is not actually the case, though, and I think he is likely right. Instead, if you don't meet the requisites for one mission anymore, said mission will be replaced by something else. So, usually you can just refuse to chose a mission, and eventually at last one of them will change to something else. But it is not guaranteed.

Well that's a bummer. Was hoping it would refresh over time (perhaps refreshing over 2 years without a mission chosen, as opposed to getting new missions 5 years after you cancel a mission), since there would be occasions where I found all three missions on list so unpalatable but oh well.
 

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Well that's a bummer. Was hoping it would refresh over time (perhaps refreshing over 2 years without a mission chosen, as opposed to getting new missions 5 years after you cancel a mission), since there would be occasions where I found all three missions on list so unpalatable but oh well.
Afraid that's not even the case either. I actually did cancel the diplomatic mission at one point when I realized that it was impossible to get an alliance with the Mamlukes since they'd set me to be one of their rivals. 5 years later, the game gave me almost the same 3 missions I had before, just that instead of getting an alliance with the Mamlukes, it wanted me to get a royal marriage. So they won't necessarily give you any new missions.
 

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Hah, another thread of these...

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK - DIEEEE PARADOX, RELEASE EU4 NOOOOOW, I WANT TO PLAY THE GAME TO STOP READING HERETIC POSTS LIKE THIS.

Yes, you're right. Paradox is the offender here.
 
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NOT = { has_country_flag = total_war_series }

I wonder what that country flag does...
It is an interesting event series for majors that can occur during civil war with several events that lets you seriously consider the human condition and its capacity to absorb bad news as you try to halt your country's slide towards total internal breakdown in order to slowly recover or, if you are so inclined, allows you to hasten the process in order to get it over with by tackling it the hard way.

A real crowd-pleaser, in other words.
 

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Its not a kick you when your down, its simulating something that happened the nearest example I can think off is the French Revolution. Did they seize hunk chunks of land? No not really, but they did have high war exhaustion like you and in addition they were bankrupt compared to you. And the result? The end of the bourbon dynasty and a series of long conflicts in Europe that didn't really end till 1815 where then you had peace for awhile.

Think about it, you just wages what seemed to be an endless war that sapped the will of your people to fight, shook their faith in government with needless deaths (assuming some part of the war was mismanaged), waged an expensive war and taxed em more to fund your war (Assuming you raised war taxes), and depending on how low your manpower is have an entirely lost generation. Do you think they will be happy with you or will want to grab their pitch forks and torches and raise hell. Especially christians and other nations who are subjugated under your rule because they don't like you for being Muslim and/or want independence from your rule so now is the chance to grab it.

If you don't want this event then you need to manage your war exhaustion and have short wars. As Sun Tzu said, no nation has ever benefited from prolonged war. That also includes constant wars with one after the other without end as that set the stage for the dissolution of the Austrian and Ottoman Empires with the series of constant wars they had.

Also do not take too many provinces unless you are willing to risk that event or you have low war exhastion. I did the same thing, but my war exhaustion was 2 or 4 (Probabally why I didn't get the event) so I lowered it and then spent my time coring everything so they are integrated into my empire so get rid of over-extension.

Perhaps I missed something from your OP but I got a splitting head ache right now and I'll come back when its gone.

Actually you seem to be assuming a lot of things, I did not raise any war taxes, the war was 3 years, which I'd sooner call average then long, and the biggest blobs where actually in modern day Turkey, so no hordes of Greeks that screwed me over, they where actually surprisingly quiet.
Didn't even have any loans, always made sure to keep the balance in the positive.

Either way, people have done the same without issues, it was just rather bad luck, as this event is extremely rare (and devastating).
 

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It is an interesting event series for majors that can occur during civil war with several events that lets you seriously consider the human condition and its capacity to absorb bad news as you try to halt your country's slide towards total internal breakdown in order to slowly recover or, if you are so inclined, allows you to hasten the process in order to get it over with by tackling it the hard way.

A real crowd-pleaser, in other words.


What, it isn't an event series in which your ruler gets access to a total war game and decrees how terrible it is compared to the stuff Paradox publishes?
 

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you can argue that the empire didn't exist really as a full empire... it was a fully corrupt administrative non-westernized nation that wouldn't stand up to a real army from the west if they decided they wanted to move in... which Napoleon proved. Empires last longer in real life due to the mystic they carry of the past... which is how prestige is kinda supposed to work in this game I guess. without that mystic, the ottoman's in RL history would not have lasted long enough to even face Napoleon in battle.

That's a hell of a slow death, considering they kept expanding for two hundred more years, which is all together rather more than half of the entire time period of the game (a time period they ended while still having a massive empire).
 

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you can argue that the empire didn't exist really as a full empire... it was a fully corrupt administrative non-westernized nation that wouldn't stand up to a real army from the west if they decided they wanted to move in... which Napoleon proved. Empires last longer in real life due to the mystic they carry of the past... which is how prestige is kinda supposed to work in this game I guess. without that mystic, the ottoman's in RL history would not have lasted long enough to even face Napoleon in battle.

Umm, you do realize that the Ottoman Empire laid waste to western armies repeatedly, right? Saying that because Napoleon whipped it while it was entering its death throes it is somehow *actually* an unworthy paper tiger is a bit silly. More than a bit silly, but the proper words to describe it would not be allowed here.