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So I've been thinking about making an alternative history mod for Victoria for a while now. There doesn't seem to be any big one for victoria, unlike HOI (Kaiserreich) or EU2 (Interregnum). I thought I would correct this.

At first I didn't have that many ideas, but after reading on european history and this thread I came up with some. First of all, it seemed obvious that the background of the mod would start at the Seven Years War. I also thought about the Napoleonic Wars, but it seemed to me that if the French had won, it would've led to their complete domination in Europe, which would've been maybe a little boring to play.

For the moment I would need some people to simply give me ideas about the map setup and also the starting date (I'm hesitating between 1815 and 1836 at the moment). I'll post a map later tonight.
 
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Why not choose Napoleon's victory? Actually the scenario would be more or less like Kaiserreich, with France instead of Germany as major (but not only) global power. Moreover, you have to define the background and give the reasons that led to a French victory.

It could be a good starting point. You'd have an almost intact Great Britain with its colonial empire (or it's main part at least). Each defeated country could have it's own history (Austria trying to recover its provinces, or attempting to form Germany, or becoming allied of Prussia to defeat Napoleon, etc.). Maybe you can have events for France itself... and so on.

I don't see really a problem. In fact, in my opinion it's the best starting point, and the most suitable one to introduce changes in the background.
 

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Why not choose Napoleon's victory? Actually the scenario would be more or less like Kaiserreich, with France instead of Germany as major (but not only) global power. Moreover, you have to define the background and give the reasons that led to a French victory.

It could be a good starting point. You'd have an almost intact Great Britain with its colonial empire (or it's main part at least). Each defeated country could have it's own history (Austria trying to recover its provinces, or attempting to form Germany, or becoming allied of Prussia to defeat Napoleon, etc.). Maybe you can have events for France itself... and so on.

I don't see really a problem. In fact, in my opinion it's the best starting point, and the most suitable one to introduce changes in the background.

It seems to me that Napoleon wouldn't have stopped at Europe and probably would've tried to invade the UK at some point. I'll try to find some ideas on Napoleon's victory and see if it's interesting. Don't hesitate to post your ideas or suggestions, btw. It's likely going to be better than mine :D.
 
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Napoleon should have stopped in some way. Maybe he could have won the war, but continue it would've be catastrophic (see Russian campaign). The point is to set how he won (if you can say that). A good solution would be to establish a Pax Franca, or something like that, maybe after an important victory, and removing some actions (Russia?). Why not supposing Russian campaign was not as disastrous as it was, like Napoleon retired earlier, and then he concluded a peace after a short reorganization? It should be justified, but it's a possibility.

These are only opinions, anyway :)
 

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Yeah, there are two or three dead Napoleon is victorious mods. I kind of like the idea with an Alternate History mod, but I think you need a large team. I think many mods have died due to huge workload concentrated on 1 or a few persons.
 

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Yeah, there are two or three dead Napoleon is victorious mods. I kind of like the idea with an Alternate History mod, but I think you need a large team. I think many mods have died due to huge workload concentrated on 1 or a few persons.

The problem is that the Victoria modding community is very small (except for VIP) and there's only about 5-10 people willing to work on mods other than VIP. An alternative history mod shouldn't represent a too big workload because techs don't have to be modded that much. The only part where I would need help would be with the graphics since I have absolutely no skill with photoshop :D.
 

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About a Napoleonic victory mod: it doesn't have to be as boring as you presume it would be. For example, when Napoleon dies, a lot of countries will try to get the better of it. And there's always USA and Russia left in the game.

If you want, I have some files lying around for a Napoleonic victory mod (see this thread for some screenshots and discussion, go to page 8 for a lot of screenies)
 
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About a Napoleonic victory mod: it doesn't have to be as boring as you presume it would be. For example, when Napoleon dies, a lot of countries will try to get the better of it. And there's always USA and Russia left in the game.

If you want, I have some files lying around for a Napoleonic victory mod (see this thread for some screenshots and discussion, go to page 8 for a lot of screenies)

Really interesting!

Is this mod still active? I would be glad to participate in the modding.
 

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Really interesting!

Is this mod still active? I would be glad to participate in the modding.

It's not very active currently since I was the main "active" (i.e. with actual modding... there were plenty of people with ideas) person in the end. And I'm quite busy now, or at least am going to be in the near future. But if we work together maybe we can revive the mod.