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Don't worry, I hacked into paradox's RAM and found this incredible top secret information:
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HOI4 confirmed to release next month.
 
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2016? Are you mad, oh wait (realized the year is 2016). Oh well, I'll just head back to my cryogenic chamber until summer and hope for better results. Gotta remember to feed my dog this time. Also, I hope they will not delay BASIC stuff like they did in hoi3. While we got pretty much everything right so far, I still hope they will fix so that Swamp fox is changed to Swamp frog and that you are able to kill generals. Recruits peasants take days, good generals take decades. If I encircle someone and kill their general, I want them to taste their own blood for letting them die in the first place. I know they said they would atleast fix the latter, but I don't want them to delay stuff to fix in patch what should be considered fundamental to the game, and maybe not even succeed. Thank you. I bought all dlcs that came out, but I shouldn't have to pay for something which should be a fundamental aspect of the game. peace.
 
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The bad thing is, that game fiest release date was Q1 2015. Then delayed to Q2 2015. Then to "when will be done". Then 'maybe' to Q1 2016 (according to wiki).
So this game has at last 3 delays.. and still no any REAL information about date (Q1-Q4).
They don't need (?!) to tell in which day game will be out, but AT LEAST give us in which Q.

This is totally wrong, that devs (sorry to say this truth) but show 'fuck' to us, customers.
 
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This is totally wrong, that devs (sorry to say this truth) but show 'fuck' to us, customers.

I can understand your anger but, try to see a bit further and you will understand the reasoning behind the multiple delays. What I mean is that this game has to be up to a certain standard because, it will be the basis of many dlc to come. Personally I like what they are doing, taking their time, all the extra time put on the game is to our benefit.
 
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The delays have nothing to do with bugs and paradox know that a total bug free release is pure fantasy.

Yes they could have released the game in 2015 but it would likely felt like it could have been so much more and that is probably what the developers felt. So what did they do, they hold of the release for a year and a half so that they could improve what they felt was lack luster like national goals became national focuses.
 
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What's even more interesting it also says they are offering the uncut game which means no censorship.. (e.g. covering up Adolf Hitler portrait). Isnt that illegal in Germany to trade uncensored games/media within Germany?

They had portraits of all the nazi leadership in HoI3 -- think the issue is with swastikas, etc.
 

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The bad thing is, that game fiest release date was Q1 2015. Then delayed to Q2 2015. Then to "when will be done". Then 'maybe' to Q1 2016 (according to wiki).
So this game has at last 3 delays.. and still no any REAL information about date (Q1-Q4).
They don't need (?!) to tell in which day game will be out, but AT LEAST give us in which Q.

This is totally wrong, that devs (sorry to say this truth) but show 'fuck' to us, customers.

Umm... wouldn't it be a "fuck the customer" to release a game that wasn't ready and suffered from a bunch of known bugs?

You're weird, man.
 
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The bad thing is, that game fiest release date was Q1 2015. Then delayed to Q2 2015. Then to "when will be done". Then 'maybe' to Q1 2016 (according to wiki).
So this game has at last 3 delays.. and still no any REAL information about date (Q1-Q4).
They don't need (?!) to tell in which day game will be out, but AT LEAST give us in which Q.

This is totally wrong, that devs (sorry to say this truth) but show 'fuck' to us, customers.
As wel as acting a bit obnoxious, you appear to contradict yourself. You want, nay, demand they set a release date (even though they themselves probably don't know when it'll release), yet you also don't want any delays. Unless they force themselves to the release date as a deadline (which is never ever a good thing), there is no way of them knowing if there will be any unexpected delays, and therefore they cannot set any definite release date until they're very close to completion (a month or so). Basically paradox cant really win either way in your eyes. If they give a release date they're just repeating the same mistake they made twice before. If they don't, "that devs but show 'fuck' to us, customers".
 
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Umm... wouldn't it be a "fuck the customer" to release a game that wasn't ready and suffered from a bunch of known bugs?

You're weird, man.

It's impossible to make people happy. You have people that want a thing and for it to be perfect but complain it takes so long to develope. Then you have people that want a thing and want it now but complain about how imperfect it is. But you have to keep in mind, what is worse. Pissing people off because it took to long to make a perfect object or pissing people off that purchased an imperfect product? The biggest difference is that when you buy something, you expect it to be perfect regardless of how long it took to make. I guarantee that anyone that complains about the lack of a release date or how long it will stay in beta will disappear the moment the game is released.
 
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It's impossible to make people happy. You have people that want a thing and for it to be perfect but complain it takes so long to develope. Then you have people that want a thing and want it now but complain about how imperfect it is. But you have to keep in mind, what is worse. Pissing people off because it took to long to make a perfect object or pissing people off that purchased an imperfect product? The biggest difference is that when you buy something, you expect it to be perfect regardless of how long it took to make. I guarantee that anyone that complains about the lack of a release date or how long it will stay in beta will disappear the moment the game is released.
Exactly. An impatient customer will almost certainly immediately stop complaining and likely forget they were ever irritated once a late game is released. But a customer (as well as reviewers) who expects a quality product, will likely never forget if a game is released and isn't up to standards.
 
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I was bored...

One year later


Things like this are pretty interesting, kinda shows the separation between the marketing and development...the advertising was ramping up for a while, think the "http://www.heartsofiron4.com/" "choose your side and sign up campaign". Marketing seemed to be expecting a SOON(tm) release from the devs for a while there, 2014-mid 2015...

Obviously that all petered out and got put on hold because of the delays. Once we see Paradox start to ratchet up the advertising, press coverage, and marketing, we can expect a release, or, at minimum, a release announcement soon thereafter... They aren't going to release HOI4 without a TON of fanfare and hype building.

Until we see that...I guess I'll just be reading and playing Stellaris (which is apparently right around the corner; see: the slowly building press hype for Stellaris...)
 
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People always talk about wanting to wait for a "good" game....so rather then playing a buggy game they prefer to sit here for 2 years making pointless discussions about a game we know little about? I dont see it. We know the game will have issues when it comes out, they always do. There will be patches and updates yada yada yada. And thats when they were working with the same essential game, now its a totally new game, expect it to have issues. Either way its not worth waiting two years to have the game "better", two years means it better be mindblowing. We are gamers, we play games, good, bad, buggy or otherwise. Hell they could have updated HOI3 for us while we waited...
Releasing a buggy game that doesnt work very well for the sake of getting it into the hands of fans sooner. Would be bad for paradox's reputation and would kill the possibility of attracting new players to the series. Some of us hardcore fans would enjoy playing it while waiting for it to be fixed, just like happened with HOI3. But it would be a bad idea for paradox's sake.
 
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