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JCFast

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So my problem is that I can't have any seafaring allies after late 1500s. If I do, the game lags a lot.

I have had this problem for some time now, probably ever since Divine Wind. My computer runs the game otherwise more than fine, and I've even tried it out on a couple of different computers, but still the problem persists.

For example I just began a game with Castille. Conquered Aragon and the Moors, colonized the Caribbean and Spanish Main. Then I decided to gift my vassal and ally, Portugal, the Azores, Madeira and Cape Verde. When the game approached the late 1500s it hit me again, game crippling lag. A month starts taking over 5 to 10 seconds, a lot compared to what it usually takes. Portugal had just colonized a couple provinces in Brazil, North America and Africa. And it was moving its fleet around like crazy, which I think is the main cause for all the lag.

As I then dissolved my alliance with them and everyone else, boom, the game started working just fine again. Even as I was now in control of the whole Central America and Indonesia as well. It has been the same for long now. In every single game I have to give up all my alliances because I can't stand the slightest lag.

I didn't put this in the technical support forum because I don't think there's anything that can be done just for me, so I would like to ask if any of you have the same problem?

Thoughts, ideas or even fixes?
 

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My only guess would be that all the additionally allied territory and armies that you can see are too much for your computer. Then again I could be completely wrong but its the only thing I can think of that cancelling the alliance will change.
 

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I've encountered something smiliar when your computer has to display all the allies navies, this becomes worse in late game where at AI still patrols instead of porting ships to block pirates.
 

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My only guess would be that all the additionally allied territory and armies that you can see are too much for your computer. Then again I could be completely wrong but its the only thing I can think of that cancelling the alliance will change.

Pretty much this. I'd suggest zooming in to reduce the amount of moving units on screen to see if that helps.
 

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Pretty much this. I'd suggest zooming in to reduce the amount of moving units on screen to see if that helps.

No I don't think is the case alone either. I mean the game runs just fine if I own half the world myself and move my armies and navies at war. But when the AI does it as an ally, things get laggy.
 

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What version and checksum show on the main game menu?
... I don't think there's anything that can be done just for me ...
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... fixes?
So nothing can be done about it, but you're hoping for a fix?!? :blink: :unsure: :) Anyway, if the answer to the above is 5.1 BJLT go ahead and post in there; if it's 5.0 you need to apply 5.1, if it's 5.1 but not BJLT you have a reinstall in your near future!
 

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What version and checksum show on the main game menu?

So nothing can be done about it, but you're hoping for a fix?!? :blink: :unsure: :) Anyway, if the answer to the above is 5.1 BJLT go ahead and post in there; if it's 5.0 you need to apply 5.1, if it's 5.1 but not BJLT you have a reinstall in your near future!

It isn't BJLT as I'm currently using a 5.2 beta patch. But I have had the problem with 5.1 vanilla install as well. Does having a beta patch mean this can't be looked into because I really wouldn't want to revert back and do the reinstallation for it. :confused:
 

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What is your graphics card? I used to run HTTT fine with an 8600 GT, it was a bit laggier with DW. Then my card died (unrelated reasons) and my onboard 7050 could only handle DW if I was really zoomed out, all effects off, etc. Actually seeing the units and not just flags made it a lot laggier, so zooming far out in your current situation is my tip. Replaced it with a cheap GT 520, it works well now, no more lag.
 

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i usually CtD with spain at around 200 provinces, whereas i can own the whole world with austria without even slowing down-game will run faster if you zoom all the way out and centre the map on a less busy area like s.africa/oceania.....
 

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It isn't BJLT as I'm currently using a 5.2 beta patch. But I have had the problem with 5.1 vanilla install as well. Does having a beta patch mean this can't be looked into because I really wouldn't want to revert back and do the reinstallation for it. :confused:
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