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i think that there are a few flaws with your plan.
  1. what if we meet strong enemy opposition and the offence stalls, do we withdrawn or try to smash through.
  2. what kind of reinforcements should we prepare, armored, motorized or simple infantry?
  3. will ANZAC forces be fighting under there own command or as a Expeditionary force under UK.
  4. the armored formation going south, what if they for some reason go to far ahead and get cut off. what will be our plan after a scenario like that.
1 smash
2 all of them, armored let for more advanced countries
3 idk
4 dont let yourself cut
 
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I am the one and only president of china, and in times of these... I must do what is right. I feel that only cold hard diplomacy may bring my country to unification, with as least possible casualties. A war with japan that can be avoided is prefereble, but regaining Manchuria would be impossible if i agree to such thing, I can only consider my options carefully...
Japan wont just give their land to you. And why would you make a deal with an enemy who has and always will be eyeing up you land. When our marinies land on Japan proper and drag the emperor out of his palace I promise, all former Japanes holdings on China will go to you.
 

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You are fool if you think that filthy japanese Emperor will make a deal with you. True is that we are only ones whos standing beside you and they need your resources, but you dont see that. Japqn may say that they will not attack you, but they dont have other options.
I am not making a deal with japan, i am making a deal with germany..
i must do what is best for my country, but the decision has not been made.
please do not antagonize me.
i will do that what puts the country in the best position.
the germans prize the chinese manpower.
 

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I am not making a deal with japan, i am making a deal with germany..
i must do what is best for my country, but the decision has not been made.
please do not antagonize me

A letter to ambassador Cheese

Im sorry do say this but Germany will never choose China over Japan. Even if you join the axis then youd have do fight Japan alone and even if you somehow win youd be facing the allies as well. This can all be avoided by joining the allies. Youll get lendlease and if need expeditionary forces you can get them. On top of all that, joinig the allies will mean you dont have do worry about Japanese marines landing behind your lines and about enemy bombers destroing your ground troops. Your safty will be guaranteed by The US navy and airforce. if you join us I can put my planes on your airfields, my boats in your ports. We can end Japan quicly like this. I promtly urge you to consider the possibilities in front of you.

signed
F.D.Roosevelt
 
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A letter to ambassador Cheese

Im sorry do say this but Germany will never choose China over Japan. Even if you join the axis then youd have do fight Japan alone and even if you somehow win youd be facing the allies as well. This can all be avoided by joining the allies. Youll get lendlease and if need expeditionary forces you can get them. On top of all that, joinig the allies will mean you dont have do worry about Japanese marines landing behind your lines and about enemy bombers destroing your ground troops. Your safty will be guaranteed by The US navy and airforce. if you join us I can put my planes on your airfields, my boats in your ports. We can end Japan quicly like this. I promtly urge you to consider the possibilities in front of you.

signed
F.D.Roosevelt
It is an honour mister president!

Germany has interrest in china to the point where they have offered almost the same as you said. japan will not declare war, and germany will offer support.
Please do see, no matter what decision we make, we will never accept a dictator in our glorious republic. we will only do what is right.
we request militairy aid, modernizing of our army, the industrialising of our country and complete hegemony over china.
 
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It is an honour mister president!

Germany has interrest in china to the point where they have offered almost the same as you said. japan will not declare war, and germany will offer support.
Please do see, no matter what decision we make, we will never accept a dictator in our glorious republic. we will only do what is right.
we request militairy aid, modernizing of our army, the industrialising of our country and complete hegemony over china.
A Second letter to Ambassador Cheese

I fully understand the rich and long history of China, that is one of the reasons I see much to gain by alling you, I am just afraid that you start to see saefty by alling Germany.
I undersant your decision not to fully support one party over the other , but even if you dont become a full allied member then youll still get support from the US. So i ask you not to join the Axis as then ill shed a tear at the prospect of fighting the Chinese. Whatever decision you reach, i urge you do consider all of them very carefully.

signed
F.D.Roosevelt
 

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In regards to the plan, it might be a little optimistic that we will be able to hold off Germany and the other Axis powers with what other forces we have. Maybe ANZAC and Canadian forces gather in Portugal and try to push through that way, while we have a defending force of British/French on the Spanish/French boarder, looking for openings, so that the bulk of their forces can be used to defend against Germany and Italy. It's possible we also have American troops if they are in the Allies when the Axis attack.
Americans cannot join the war before 1941, its in the rules. To be honest, I have previously stated that taking Spain is actually more important than holding France, since if Spain opens another front in the middle of the war, French position is undefensible. If we however, occupy Spain but Grand Baguette collapses, the mountain ranges of Spain will give us a more defensible position, and a smaller front, as well as a fallback position for French troops. This way, we loose territory, but French army, navy and airforce is kept in the war...
My point is, Spain can be France 2.0 temporarily, but if they are ignored it is game over for French troops which will get surrounded and surrendder.
Is there something I am missing ?

i think that there are a few flaws with your plan.
  1. what if we meet strong enemy opposition and the offence stalls, do we withdrawn or try to smash through.
  2. what kind of reinforcements should we prepare, armored, motorized or simple infantry?
  3. will ANZAC forces be fighting under there own command or as a Expeditionary force under UK.
  4. the armored formation going south, what if they for some reason go to far ahead and get cut off. what will be our plan after a scenario like that.
1-Smash, Spain has a higher priority than France, in my opinion, but that is up to debate. I have elaborated earlier.
2-For Spain, a couple of tank divisions, a few more motorized, and the rest is specialized and normal infantry.
3- ANZAC will keep their own command, since they get their own frontline. However, if they so prefer, New Zealand and Canada can give expeditionary force to Australian generals or the like. (independent ANZAC will be more fun ;) )
4- This is the thrust that is most realistic to get bogged down, but is it realistic that operation Liberty Prime lasts longer than a month ?(this is how long it is said units can survive without supplies)
 
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It is an honour mister president!

Germany has interrest in china to the point where they have offered almost the same as you said. japan will not declare war, and germany will offer support.
Please do see, no matter what decision we make, we will never accept a dictator in our glorious republic. we will only do what is right.
we request militairy aid, modernizing of our army, the industrialising of our country and complete hegemony over china.
To the ambassador of China from high general tojo ambassador to his majesty hirohito

Ambassador we will gladly give you back all Asian territory that is rightfully yours
THAT is not important to his majesty what is important is resources

if we agree on trade between our two great nations we could end a hatred that's lasted almost as long as our nation's have exsisted
We don't have to be enemies if we can come to terms then your great nation could avoid the conflict all together
You could even take back Mongolia

We are both of ancient Asia and the founding nations of the great continent

no military or hostile action will be taken against Chinese territory if we agree on trade terms
General tojo
 

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Letter to the possible Spanish leader
I am sorry for any confusion that might have occured with our invasion plans.
I was under the impression that Spain is Axis from the start, no?
I though that they proclaimed neutrality because they saw us eyeing Spain but you are a completely new player on the field, which I missed. Now in all seriousness, if you keep your alignment far enough away from Axis, we can guarantee your neutrality(we also game-mechanically can't declare war on you).

With that in mind, the nation of Spain has great potential economic benefits in staying neutral and trading with the allies.
 

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To the ambassador of China from high general tojo ambassador to his majesty hirohito

Ambassador we will gladly give you back all Asian territory that is rightfully yours
THAT is not important to his majesty what is important is resources

if we agree on trade between our two great nations we could end a hatred that's lasted almost as long as our nation's have exsisted
We don't have to be enemies if we can come to terms then your great nation could avoid the conflict all together
You could even take back Mongolia

We are both of ancient Asia and the founding nations of the great continent

no military or hostile action will be taken against Chinese territory if we agree on trade terms
General tojo
And what will you trade with the chines. The last time I checked you yourself was running low on recorces like rubber and oil. All the things we have. And that talk about territoris not important to you. Does that include Manchuria and Taiwan. If it does, then please i encourage you to give the land do the Chinese.Your letter seems like basket of void promises.But no deeds.
 
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We, the spanish people, won't take these invasion plans lightly and we will therefore, for the time being, cut connections with all allied nations and close our foreign embassies.
The Spanish Republic will give allied embassies in madrid a 3 day deadline to do the same or there will be even greater harm to our relations.

This however is not a declaration of allegiance to the axis forces, as we still pursue to remain neutral and try to avoid being dragged into conflict.
 

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We, the spanish people, won't take these invasion plans lightly and we will therefore, for the time being, cut connections with all allied nations and close our foreign embassies.
The Spanish Republic will give allied embassies in madrid a 3 day deadline to do the same or there will be even greater harm to our relations.
This however is not a declaration of allegiance to the axis forces, as we still pursue to remain neutral and try to avoid being dragged into conflict.

Very well. As long as your leanings are far enough away from fascism, you will be safe from Allied invasions. In time, I am certain that it will become obvious that maintaining good relations with the Allies is in your best interests. After all, South America has some rebel axis nations for re-colonization ;)
 

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We, the spanish people, won't take these invasion plans lightly and we will therefore, for the time being, cut connections with all allied nations and close our foreign embassies.
The Spanish Republic will give allied embassies in madrid a 3 day deadline to do the same or there will be even greater harm to our relations.

This however is not a declaration of allegiance to the axis forces, as we still pursue to remain neutral and try to avoid being dragged into conflict.
Im sorry do hear your stance on the matter and I fully understand your decisinon to cut relations. But I must say that those plans are just in case you would become part of the Axis.
I also ask that one emmbasy would be allowed to stay incase of mayor news.If not then we will complie and close our embasy in Madrid.

signed
F.D.Roosevelt
 

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In case Spain remains neutral, the defense of France will go back to for building and maintaining the Grand Baguette.

I have to ask for a brainstorming session concerning the evacuation of Chechoslovakian troops. Their geographical position makes it... difficult shall we say, but it would be a waste if their troops become prisoners of war.
Is it possible then, for Chechoslovakia to focus its resources into researching and building paratroopers and transport planes, to be flown through communist territory into northern Africa?
 
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In case Spain remains neutral, the defense of France will go back to for building and maintaining the Grand Baguette.

I have to ask for a brainstorming session concerning the evacuation of Chechoslovakian troops. Their geographical position makes it... difficult shall we say, but it would be a waste if their troops become prisoners of war.
Is it possible then, for Chechoslovakia to focus its resources into researching and building paratroopers and transport planes, to be flown through communist territory into northern Africa?
I was thinking about it too, but is it possible to move my units into Allied territory? And if so, when they will start occupy me what happens? I will lost national unity so i could just be anexed and my units would perish? Or i could continue to fight with my units but i wouldnt have any manpower. There are many questions.
 

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I was thinking about it too, but is it possible to move my units into Allied territory? And if so, when they will start occupy me what happens? I will lost national unity so i could just be anexed and my units would perish? Or i could continue to fight with my units but i wouldnt have any manpower. There are many questions.
My personal opinion is that you try do hold out as long as you can and then swtitch nations.
 

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I was thinking about it too, but is it possible to move my units into Allied territory? And if so, when they will start occupy me what happens? I will lost national unity so i could just be anexed and my units would perish? Or i could continue to fight with my units but i wouldnt have any manpower. There are many questions.
This is a question only devs can answer, though in HOI 3 if you become a Government in Exile there was a good chance your troops stationed in allied land would continue fighting. Like If I ocuppy Italy as an allies member, they would still have divisions active in Germany...
 

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We, the spanish people, won't take these invasion plans lightly and we will therefore, for the time being, cut connections with all allied nations and close our foreign embassies.
The Spanish Republic will give allied embassies in madrid a 3 day deadline to do the same or there will be even greater harm to our relations.

This however is not a declaration of allegiance to the axis forces, as we still pursue to remain neutral and try to avoid being dragged into conflict.

Dear Spanish representative,

you have to understand that in case you send one member of your party and he openly supports Axis that there will be some steps taken. However if you want to declare neutrality that is something completely different and no hostile actions will be planned.

However you should be carefull with declarations by representatives of your country. Lets say Britain will declare that they are planning to subdue their former colonies then ofcourse USA will be threatened and same applies when YOUR own representative when they declares allegiance to Axis and plan to join them which means they will attack France eventually. All countries will plan countermeasuers so instead of being horrified by our plans put one and one together and dont declare allegiance where there is none.

I strongly recommend placing person who declared alleagiance to Axis to mental hospital, it is most fitting place for all leaders of Axis nations.

signed

King George VI
 
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