Allied Joint Operations Meeting

[atm]

Navy is important factor and Britania will rule the wawes! We plan, in case war breaks out, to crush bulk of German and Italian Navy with decisive strike and keep them contained to Europe. In that case if France can hold enemy at glorious Maginot line we should be able to contain any problems.

My generals however informed me that there is a lot of open land in Northern France without fortification but who would dare to attack Belgium and Netherlands are we back in the old days of Great war?!

signed

King Gerge VI

//OOC - if they go according to plan (which includes not attacking China and Poland being axis) I won´t be able to proclaim guarantee to Czechoslovakia because world tension will be effectively 0 - we should increase this value but allied nations does not have national focus on that

 

[Gerhard Lindt]

@Gerhard Lindt i like your idea but is it not a bit (i don't know if this is the right word for it) screwed over?

Sorry but im not sure what you mean?

 

[Skyhascheese]

Seeing as china is free... i proclaim myself as the new democratic president of Nationalist China! Hail president cheese! HAIL!
I will be first to fight the cowardly Japanese and their boats! I accept help from the British Raj, ofcourse....

 

[Gerhard Lindt]

I would like to hear everibodis opinion on nukes. Im plannimg to use my focuses to always be a year ahed on the rechech. Then ill build 3 reactors as by the MP rules. Ill use those to force surrender on stratetic enemies.

 

[GamesPlayers]

@atm please remind that Belgium wants to be part of the axis, meaning that France its northern flank can get under heavy attack.
i would like to make preparations for a withdraw and even for a retreat from mainland europe if that will be the case.

@gerhard Lindti i don't have a good answer for you sorry. i will try to explane to you tomorrow.
and the nuke question, not really my playstyle. so i cannot give advice for that.

 

[Skyhascheese]

I would like to hear everibodis opinion on nukes. Im plannimg to use my focuses to always be a year ahed on the rechech. Then ill build 3 reactors as by the MP rules. Ill use those to force surrender on stratetic enemies.

China has better things to research than nukes, like... Cavalry! and maybe we might get a tank!

 

[Gerhard Lindt]

China has better things to research than nukes, like... Cavalry! and maybe we might get a tank!

Ah yes, if Japan shows any sign of aggresion against you we will start lend leasing you with sherman tanks and modern infratary equipment.

 

[Skyhascheese]

Ah yes, if Japan shows any sign of aggresion against you we will start lend leasing you with sherman tanks and modern infratary equipment.

I would prefer to capture the qing homelands before the russians do, plus, we have the entire issue of reuniting china...
And those Bolshevik traitor revolutionairies!

 

[Isoceth]

Welcome onboard China. It is good to know that you are onboard, especially since discovering that Persia seems to be aligning with the fascist dogs.

Commander Mountbatten

 

[Jepperino]

I believe that to protect France they should take the national focus "Extend the Maginot Line" to further protect their northern border from those Belgians.

 

[Viktor_Vertex]

I, king George VI,

approve secession of Indian ocean islands when hostilities between United Kingdom and Japan erupts.

I must advise against this. I agree that India deserves to get the islands AFTER the war, we do not know what effect and possible malus would British fleets supply suffer from extra bureocracy(khmgameengine) of having its ships and troops on allied, but foreign ground. I believe the British should keep a piece during the war, but cede it afterwards

Also in case war is declared between Allies and Japan and China still stands strong we should think about sending expeditionary force to China, I would recommend that Raj focuses later on also on this.

Another Chinese player thinks of aligning Axis. This is a problem.

My democratic friends, when Czechoslovakia falls i will exile into Portugal and take their command (If it will be free), that i would be able to help in Europe. Next other possibilities are Mexico, Ireland, South Africa and Peru, Kolumbie or Venezuelle. With Mexico and SA cauntries i would focus at Argentine, with Ireland at Europe and with South Africa at Africa and maybe Asia. (Best is probably defend Suez and Syria)

Portugal will be most useful. Explaination in next post

The axis has been talking about focusing on their navy to challange us , so we shouldnt underestimate them.

Yes but if British and France focus on airforce, it can effectively be used alongide our already formidable navies, along with tipping the scales in ground war. The commonwealth should not let their dockyards be idle, but navy shouldn't be a priority either, except for Canada.

 

[Skyhascheese]

I must advise against this. I agree that India deserves to get the islands AFTER the war, we do not know what effect and possible malus would British fleets supply suffer from extra bureocracy(khmgameengine) of having its ships and troops on allied, but foreign ground. I believe the British should keep a piece during the war, but cede it afterwards


Another Chinese player thinks of aligning Axis. This is a problem.


Portugal will be most useful. Explaination in next post


Yes but if British and France focus on airforce, it can effectively be used alongide our already formidable navies, along with tipping the scales in ground war. The commonwealth should not let their dockyards be idle, but navy shouldn't be a priority either, except for Canada.

I am the one and only president of china, and in times of these... I must do what is right. I feel that only cold hard diplomacy may bring my country to unification, with as least possible casualties. A war with japan that can be avoided is prefereble, but regaining Manchuria would be impossible if i agree to such thing, I can only consider my options carefully...

 

[Viktor_Vertex]

Axis commanders have proclaimed that Spain will stay neutral for some time. I believe this to be a blatant lie made to deceive us and think our backs are safe while they ship soldiers and materials to stab us in the back like dishonorable thugs they are.

Since Portugal is on our side now, I believe it is in the realm of possibility to knock Spain out in the first month of the war.
I will need ANZAC, Indian and Canadian forces to supply a total of 20 divisions for this operation (Which will then be redeployed back home for ANZAC and India). I will also need the British to supply as many divisions as possible and full support of their fleet. Canada shall bring their fleet to the fray too.
Sometime early in 1939 The commonwealth nations will deploy their troops on mainland France, or Britain, wherever military excercises will be able to be hosted with least impact to native inhabitants...

This operation is codenamed Liberty Prime, since democracy is non-negotiable in our backyard.
Red lines represent the directions of the main British and French attack, which is to consist of mostly specialist and regular infantry.
Green lines represent the direction of mechanized and tank movement, to capture key cities as soon as possible. A few divisions of infantry will walk behind them to garrison the captured cities and ports and to react to Italy's naval reactionary invasions should they happen.


ANZAC and Canada are to bring mostly pure infantry and marine divisions, due to possible supply problems with their part of the plan.
ANZAC operations are expected to meet less resistance than the main attack, therefore they are expected to achieve more rapid advances due to less resistance. Prior to the operation or immediately upon its beginning, ANZAC forces will land or retake Gibraltar, and begin marching towards the ports and Victory points in the vicinity. This attack will be supported by a British fleet consisting of at least one carrier, along with the French carrier fleet . ANZAC should also make a secondary landing northwest of Gibraltar, to rush adjecent VP and support the attack in Gibraltar should it need to.
Another landing in Africa is preferable but not crucial, to fully take control of the canal.

Assuming Portugal is on our side, remaining ANZAC and portugese forces will march to Madrid, with a single division sent North to capture the VP. Once Madrid is captured, forces there could be diverted South to help the tank column if needed.
For the time being, Spain will be under our occupation, and after the war a democratic government will be installed
After the quick Spanish surrender, the bulk of the French forces will be retreated to the West frontline. Depending on the situation, the bulk of the British forces should stay to garrison the many vulnerable Spanish ports, but if needed should be diverted to West front line.

At this point we shall assess the situation in the pacific. If ANZAC forces should need to return home, they will do so immediately after the Spanish surrender.
Alternatively. if the situation in Pacific looks good, we might at this point try to organize an intervention into south America, namely Argentina.


Any comments on this invasion plan ?

 

[Jepperino]

As the Portuguese player I feel as if this plan is not flexible enough. For example if there is more resistance than expected up in Galicia then we would have to redirect units and weaken other fronts or risk northern Portugal being invaded.
I am unsure how to fix this but an idea would for the British to make a few landings along the northern Spanish coast to relieve pressure from other fronts and connect the forces.

I can also garrison Spanish ports to prevent any naval invasions and if possible I would also like to take some land from Spain after the war.

Overall it looks good and will surely serve as a good way to give our armies the experience they need for the other fronts.

 

[Skyhascheese]

I think you may be forgetting about italy, they could stop many of your plans.

 

[Viktor_Vertex]

As the Portuguese player I feel as if this plan is not flexible enough. For example if there is more resistance than expected up in Galicia then we would have to redirect units and weaken other fronts or risk northern Portugal being invaded.
I am unsure how to fix this but an idea would for the British to make a few landings along the northern Spanish coast to relieve pressure from other fronts and connect the forces.

I can also garrison Spanish ports to prevent any naval invasions and if possible I would also like to take some land from Spain after the war.

Overall it looks good and will surely serve as a good way to give our armies the experience they need for the other fronts.

Realistically, i think we can commit 50 Commonwealth(British and French included) divisions to Spain, NOT including Portugese divisions, therefore our numbers might be even greater... The only counter to this that I see is Italy pouring troops into Spain, which is a great way to get Italian prisoners, since they cannot escape and can be countered by Britain and France diverting divisions that aren't fighting Italians in the west to Spain...
May i suggest that you take Axis south american land as your reward instead ? Portugal is, after all, a colonial empire and we would not want the world to think of us as conquerors of sovereign nations...
Former colonies however, are a fair game

 

[thetom54]

In regards to the plan, it might be a little optimistic that we will be able to hold off Germany and the other Axis powers with what other forces we have. Maybe ANZAC and Canadian forces gather in Portugal and try to push through that way, while we have a defending force of British/French on the Spanish/French boarder, looking for openings, so that the bulk of their forces can be used to defend against Germany and Italy. It's possible we also have American troops if they are in the Allies when the Axis attack.

 

[MarcoRossolini]

Gentlemen.
It is with the goodwill of all parties and the confidence of the world that I have placed myself as second in command of the United Kingdom of Great Britain (pending approval by atm)

As newly incumbent Prime Minister, I view the state of affairs in Europe as most disturbing. We have two great factions vying for the destruction of all that we hold dear and cherish.
The one, a vile, warmongering, adventuring group of fascist dictators. Content to subsume all voices in a sea of blind obedience and hatred. The other, an expansionist, blood thirsty communist dictatorship, whose exploitation of the common people knows no bounds and whose ambitions have no limit.
We, the democracies of Europe. the sole candle of hope in an embattled Europe, stand against these two monsters. Let us know pretend that this is yet another minor dispute so common last century. This is a battle for survival, a battle for everything we hold dear. A battle for the future of our great lands. Let every man and woman brace themselves to their duty and so bear themselves, that if our civilization lasts for a thousands years, men will still say, this was their finest hour.

 

[GamesPlayers]

i think that there are a few flaws with your plan.

1. what if we meet strong enemy opposition and the offence stalls, do we withdrawn or try to smash through.
   
2. what kind of reinforcements should we prepare, armored, motorized or simple infantry?
3. will ANZAC forces be fighting under there own command or as a Expeditionary force under UK.
4. the armored formation going south, what if they for some reason go to far ahead and get cut off. what will be our plan after a scenario like that.

 

[Lolkar]

I am the one and only president of china, and in times of these... I must do what is right. I feel that only cold hard diplomacy may bring my country to unification, with as least possible casualties. A war with japan that can be avoided is prefereble, but regaining Manchuria would be impossible if i agree to such thing, I can only consider my options carefully...

You are fool if you think that filthy japanese Emperor will make a deal with you. True is that we are only ones whos standing beside you and they need your resources, but you dont see that. Japqn may say that they will not attack you, but they dont have other options.