Allied Joint Operations Meeting

[Viktor_Vertex]

Last night I was drinking tea in my office when my butler came in and said he has peculiar news from the intelligence agency

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...ions-for-the-upcoming-release-and-war.914091/
My monocle fell out of shock from such nefarious plans.
It seems that the nations of Germany, Italy, Japan, Spain and Finland are conspiring to set up some kind of 'new world order' and plan to
put such plans in action in a multiplayer game as soon as the game is released!
What is wrong with'current world order' eludes me but nonetheless...
Don't get me wrong, I'm certain that Germany is a peaceful nation without any expansionist ambitions, but democracies of the world should
have a contingency plan in place should they attempt something rash...

As a member of the British parliament, I believe it must be our first priority to find non-British people to fight our wars.
We will ideally want a competent leaders for all our potential allies.
Let's go over them shall we ?

France, bastion of democracy in Europe- the French have proven very useful during the previous war, and since this one won't be any different,
we can surely count on them to fight for our cause. A good leader for them is imperative since they potentially face attacks from Germany,
Italy and Spain at the same time.

British Raj, Canada, New Zealand and Australia
We can count on their support with minimal convincing. However, unless led by a competent leader, they can best contribute by sending us expeditionary forces.
We will discuss specific strategies for their theatres in later meetings.

Poland, Yugoslavia, Greece
Other peoples territories to serve as a front line, we simply must take steps to woo them to our cause. If we manage to get them all on our side, the Axis countries
will be surrounded. They will likely not hold without reinforcements though.

Romania, Bulgaria
It would be ideal if we could get them on our side but not imperative.

United State of America
Possibly important former colony. They can potentially be useful if they manage to get out of the Great Depression fallout...

Netherlands, Switzerland, Belgium, Denmark, Portugal
We shouldn't worry too much about them, though they are welcome to support us if they want to.


In my next speech, I will suggest a general plan of operations and possible chokepoints and defensive lines to stop or delay the Axis agression.
Until then please do post your ideas on countering the fascist threat, and if you are willing to join the cause.

 

[Viktor_Vertex]

I propose the following plan for the defense of France

The red line is what the extended maginot line will look like. Forts will be upgraded along this line to allow it to be only lightly garissoned
The black line will also see new forts constructed and will be guarded by special mountaineer troops.
Ideally, green line will be dotted with Belgian forts if they start cooperating early and will be adequately defensible. Alternatively, begin preparation of yellow line following the river allowing easier defense.
Purple line, the border with Switzerland does not need to be garrisoned, however there have to be troops that are able to jump in if Switzerland is dragged into the war. Purple line will NOT be defended, however troops from the purple line need to march in and garrison existing Swiss forts, in Swiss territory
I hereby decree that it is the will of the Parliament that the whole defensive line will in all future correspondence and communications be refferred to exclusively as "The Grand Baguette".(Credit to the AAR guy who first mentioned it)
Pink dots have to be at least somewhat garrisoned to prevent fascist naval invasions.

Blue line is crucial if Spain is on the Axis side. Almost ALL British forces need to be positioned near the Spain border. I will elaborate. Spain has about 30 divisions which if used behind France's back could be a decisive factor in Axis quick victory in France. However, If Spain is persuaded to join the Allies, that is 30 more free divisions to defend the Grand Baguette. If Spain is an Axis member, The British forces should position their troops several provinces back, in order to deceive the Nationalist Spain Army to leave their highly defensible mountain positions and attack. Once the Spanish Army is a few provinces inside France, British troops will easily defeat them in favourable terrain. It will then be crucial to press the disorganized Spaniards over The Pyrinees mountain range. At this point, british naval invasions and army inserted from France should try to force the Spanish Victory points and force them to surrender. Any French troops that can be spared should be commited to this task.
Spanish defeat is a higher priority than defending The Grand Baguette which only needs to survive for a month or so until the Spain surrenders.
If Spanish Army is willing to join the allies, we shall puppet them and send our boys to reinforce the Grand Baguette. Otherwise, we have eliminated one frontline and if France begins to fall, their armies can make a second stand in the Spanish mountain ranges.

The British should prepare from beginning of the game for this Spanish invasion, training many mountaineer troops.


I will suggest a more detailed defence plan for The Grand Baguette in my future speeches.

 

[AzariahSchultz]

Last night I was drinking tea in my office when my butler came in and said he has peculiar news from the intelligence agency

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...ions-for-the-upcoming-release-and-war.914091/
My monocle fell out of shock from such nefarious plans.
It seems that the nations of Germany, Italy, Japan, Spain and Finland are conspiring to set up some kind of 'new world order' and plan to
put such plans in action in a multiplayer game as soon as the game is released!
What is wrong with'current world order' eludes me but nonetheless...
Don't get me wrong, I'm certain that Germany is a peaceful nation without any expansionist ambitions, but democracies of the world should
have a contingency plan in place should they attempt something rash...

Belgium too have thrown their hat into the ring for the New World Order

 

[atm]

Very well then, looks like bloody axis supporters in french government were elliminated. In that case Great Britain will go as planned together with France and will convince Spain that they can stay only on our side of the war or be liberated.

Also British fleet will be split between blockade of Italian coastline, anti-sub warfare and finally heavy ships will support amphibious invasions.

Glorious RAF will be deployed in France to maintain air superiority in fighting regions and provide CAS of troops to prevent any breakthroughts.

In case some problems will occure on north we should have enough ships to perform naval liberation of Finland and blockade German troops from advancing to Scandinavia.

 

[Quendallon]

Capitalist pigs and Imperial dogs,

I, admiral Arturo Riccardi, come bearing a message concerning the rules of conduct for the war:

Oh and just fyi and I'll redo the thread closer to release and to go off rp for a second

But a few house rules I'll be implementing
1 I would really really like it if everyone could at least try to make the war last as long as possible going to the 50s and possibly 60s

1.5 I like to tell stories in my game's so I ask that everyone please role play as I find it more fun that way

you don't have to but I think it would make a more fun and enjoyable game

Rp element can include
Making specific treaties with other players.

Government talks giving territory to a nation for a set amount of time.

ultimatum and surrender options in the middle of war.
Declaring a small personal war against other players no allies can interfere in that war if you desire.
Special units that have a backstory
If you can rename commander make your own if you want give him a backstory

I'll make a special steam thread for our campaign and unit characters if you guys want that.
Any other rp suggestions you guys can think of tell me and I'll ok or deny it but I'm big on rp so most stuff is ok

2 there can be no all out attack / war declaration on the major power's before Sep 1 1939 to give everyone build up time

3 no spamming nukes before 1950 if we can keep the war going that llrocket/v2 kamikaze is fine but seeing a billion nukes would ruin the game imo

4 this one is only for my nation to Japan and I'm not doing it to be unfair But this is a battle I've always wanted to know what would have happened

In order to defeat Japan you must invade and occupy the home island's of Japan

(It was going to be called operation downfall
It was the planned invasion of Japan if we never dropped the bombs. Their are articles on it)

5 any players of minor nations are free to create their own faction and challenge the axis allies or communist if you don't want to ally with the 3 big. Power's

6 if there is workshop support and you think it will enhance the war and make it more enjoyable I'm not opposed to mods at all

7 if you have a YouTube twitch or a stream site I ask that you do record if possible . If your ok with streaming our game

I'd do myself but my computer is kinda crap

That's all for now any questions ask me

If you have a idea for a unit or commander with a backstory I can set up a different thread for that on here if you guys want

And with that back to the war preparations

I hereby consider you informed and will leave quickly now before you arrest me!

Signed,
Arturo Riccardi

 

[Gerhard Lindt]

The USA has no intrest in seeing an axis controled europe. In light of the growing power of Germany and the new dangerous facist regime led by Hitler I F.D.Roosevelt give my full support to Britain and France. If I become the next president of the USA i will start a programm to get us out of the depression and start to build up the USA army.
First we will ban all trade with the axis and build up our indrusty. The next step is to build the greatest airforce in history. If our planes controll the skies , then no axis soldier can sleep safe. To use our great airforce effectivly a strong carrier fleet has to be built. As of our army , we will create a small but heavely trained force. We will focus on marines to take the japanese islands and a strong tank core , to rival the great German tanks. When we are doing this we will be lend leasing the allies heavely and do a lesser concent the USSR. As if the USA enters the war planes and soldiers will be sent to Britain to see that london will never fall to Hitler. But the main bulk of our army will focus on Japans islands and the invasion of main land Japan. Even if this will cost many lives, I think that getting Japan out of the war is more importent. After this all forces will be freed for the african and european front.

Signed,
F.D.Roosevelt

 

[Viktor_Vertex]

The USA has no intrest in seeing an axis controled europe. In light of the growing power of Germany and the new dangerous facist regime led by Hitler I F.D.Roosevelt give my full support to Britain and France. If I become the next president of the USA i will start a programm to get us out of the depression and start to build up the USA army.
First we will ban all trade with the axis and build up out indrusty. The next step is to build the greatest airforce in history. If our planes controll the skies , then no axis soldier can sleep safe. To use our great airforce effectivly a strong carrier fleet has to be built. As of our army , we will create a small but heavely trained foce. We will focus on marines to take the japanese islands and a strong tank core , to rival the great German tanks. When we are doing this we will be lend leasing the allies heavely and do a lesser concent the USSR. As if the USA enters the war planes and soldiers will be sent to Britain to see that london will never fall to Hitler. But the main bulk of our army will focus on Japans islands and the invasion of main land Japan. Even if this will cost many lives, I think that getting Japan out of the war is more importent. After this all forces will be freed for the african and european front.

Signed,
F.D.Roosevelt

Unless the situation in France needs urgent US help, I do support USA focusing its main forces on quick Japanese destruction. This will in turn free up the Soviet far east forces (if they are any good) so maybe Axis forces, even if not at war with the soviets, will have to put a significant garrison on the border, diverting troops from France.
Be warned however, that I fear there will be left a power vacuum filled with non democratic forces in the areas of Japans influence as national or communist China, or even the Soviet union try to take power for themselves.
However, this is a problem that can be dealt with later, after democracy is restored once and for all in Europe!

 

[MarcoRossolini]

Is it concerning that that thread is already on 9 pages and we allied generals are still barely on a page?

*reads thread*

What is this capitalist bourgeois nonsense! You should be all ashamed of yourselves for cowardly inactivity! Defence lines??? This is rubbish! January 1 1936 invasion and partition of Germany (and Poland , as Comrade Stalin has just reminded me) is the only answer!!! The Glorious Red Army, with the world's largest air force, the world's finest Generals and the largest tank force in the world will strike great hammer blows against the fascist oppressors! With or without the cowardly Western allies whose appeasement is good for nothing!

 

[Viktor_Vertex]

Is it concerning that that thread is already on 9 pages and we allied generals are still barely on a page?

*reads thread*

What is this capitalist bourgeois nonsense! You should be all ashamed of yourselves for cowardly inactivity! Defence lines??? This is rubbish! January 1 1936 invasion and partition of Germany (and Poland , as Comrade Stalin has just reminded me) is the only answer!!! The Glorious Red Army, with the world's largest air force, the world's finest Generals and the largest tank force in the world will strike great hammer blows against the fascist oppressors! With or without the cowardly Western allies whose appeasement is good for nothing!

But their discussions are mostly political dealing of fantasies about who will take what, no match for the unity of the Soviet Union or the Democratic western world and alliance that is the United Nations!
I'm sure that we will get along fine once the fascists are dealt with...

 

[alex 9344]

Non role play post
As the original op of the axis war thread and organizer of the first major war of relese these are the rules for that game pm me with any questions

The Rules as of Now:

1: The war is to, if possible, continue through the 50's and possibly the 60's. Adjust your operations to accommodate for this.

2: Fascist countries, with the exception of Japan, can not initiate conflict until at LEAST September 1st 1939. The USA and USSR can not attack anyone until August 1st 1941, however they can be pulled into existing conflicts if a Fascist nation declares war on them beforehand.

3: Nuclear reactors are to be limited to avoid a never-ending Nuke spam fest. For now, the Limits are:
USA:3 - USSR:2 - Germany:2 - Everyone Else:1

4: In order for any Faction to surrender, all of the Major members capital's must be occupied and held for a period of time (to be decided). If a player's nation has capitulated but control colonies (like France), they may continue the fight until either their faction is defeated or their countries restored.

5: Players of Minor nations are free to create their own faction, with which they can either use to take on the traditional big 3, or forge alliances with them to help, or to simply stay neutral in strength.

6: Modding is not strictly forbidden but must be discussed with the group to avoid games becoming incompatible. It is highly likely the first game will be un-modded for the sake of an even playing field.

7: Anyone with a Twitch or Youtube account and good recording software is encouraged to record the game, but this is of course not a nessessity.

Regarding Role-play:

In this game you are encouraged to role-play your part in the conflict as much as you are comfortable with. If you have no interest in RP that won't jeopardize your chances at joining the game, but we ask you respect anyone else who is interested in the RP aspect of the game. As such, if you want to set yourself up with a 'Persona' for other players to address you by, a new thread will be created for you to share your identity.

Using methods of communication outside of the game to contact other players is allowed, but only secret alliances may be formed between Majors with Minors or vice versa. Majors may still enter secret trades with each other if they want however, and the sharing of plans is allowed also. Basically, a Major may help another Major, but they cannot outright change sides in the conflict.

During the conflict occupied territory may be exchanged between participants freely, until the Peace Conference where it will be permanently given to whomever can be the most persuasive.

If the war is truly going south for your nation or you have to quit the game for any particular reason, peace talks can prematurely begin and conditions agreed upon but ultimately these can't be enforced until the Peace Conference.

Limited War's are allowed, as in private conflicts between plays and AI without dragging in the entire alliance. However, you will have to be persuasive, as of course personal conflicts benefits only you.

Units with the Elite status are encouraged to have a backstory, however scarce or detailed. As always, not mandatory.

A special Steam group will be formed closer to the games launch to finalize spots, update Rules, and generally make it easier for players to mingle and organize. Any suggestions for rules or other ways to RP is welcome and encouraged to share, but as always, OP has the final say.

Thank you for taking the time to read, we look forward to having you if you join

 

[MarcoRossolini]

But their discussions are mostly political dealing of fantasies about who will take what, no match for the unity of the Soviet Union or the Democratic western world and alliance that is the United Nations!
I'm sure that we will get along fine once the fascists are dealt with...

We are in agreement comrade, let them dance and play in their political disney world!

 

[alex 9344]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...rules-for-mp-rp-game-by-lunyspacelord.914532/

Set up a game rules discussion thread so war council's threads can continue without interruption or breaking rp

 

[Viktor_Vertex]

Allright it seems that I have been put in charge to lead France, and I actually had a bit of a change of heart and would like to suggest(i'd really want feedback) a new tactic for France. As the French ruler, I shall do everything in my power in order to achieve Franco-British union so our patriotic troops can continue fighting even if my nation temporarily succumbs to the fascist hordes...

This plan is formed under the assumption that there is a real threat of temporary fascist occupation of French mainland. Having this, and the idea of a Franco-British union and recent nationalist sentiment in belgium in mind, I would think twice about building forts in my territory only to be taken later by the enemy...
Rather, perhaps a more realistic approach would be that British go with early rearmament policy , along with any such policy selected by France. This way, we will have many able soldiers to fight from the very beginning of the war, and will retreat to the British isles to fight another day if things go badly in mainland Europe.
The general idea of a plan still stands, but with a more aggresive assault with French troops into Spain, since, after we annex Spain, my soldiers will continue to fight even if their nation falls.

The Spanish border, well guarded with allied troops is a good defensive mountain position, with excellent opportunity for attack and retaking of our mainland should if fall in the early years...

 

[bengast]

"snip"

You can always discuss with atm to switch countries or take another one if you want if you don't want to play France

 

[Isoceth]

Greeting allies. I am Commander Mountbatten of India. I aim to be the bastion of democracy in the Indian ocean and stand as a launching point for European actions in Asia if it becomes necessary.

 

[Isoceth]

Also Viktor in the main thread you are currently down as the UK and France as open.

 

[Viktor_Vertex]

Greeting allies. I am Viceroy and Governor-General Mountbatten of India. I aim to be the bastion of democracy in the Indian ocean and stand as a launching point for European actions in Asia if it becomes necessary.

Much obliged governor.
I suggest that the british prioritize 'develop british raj' over Australia or New Zealand because of India's good tactical position. Your objective would be to build up your industry to acceptable levels in the first two years of the game, after which you should begin military buildup. You are to defend calcutta and its excellent resource base, while maintaining a security force inside India to plug up any naval invasions that may happen. Unfortunately, at this early time we cannot directly help you(but most likely you will not run into much trouble this soon) since mainland Europe should be our main priority. After the front has been established in Europe, we could discuss further objectives like getting Iran and Persia on our side, and possibly establishing a defensive line from further invasions

Also Viktor in the main thread you are currently down as the UK and France as open.

Is it not concluded that the other guy is a Brit, while nobody has taken France, which means I will?
I'm fine with playing France but as I said i think that Franco-British union as seen in WWW should be a priority.

 

[Lolkar]

I Dr. Edvard Beneš proclaims in the name of Czechoslovakia, that we will stand against darkness and help you defeat terror whos comming for us. It will be hard, it will be bloody, but truth allways wins!

 

[Viktor_Vertex]

Regarding Naval and Air buildup prior to the war...
Both Germany and Italy have admitted to prioritizing naval buildup over their airforces. I believe we should do quite the opposite.
Since our plan is centered at keeping France from capitulating, that also means we have the French navy at our disposal, which is quite formidable and combined with the RN should still give us at least a slight advantage in ships. By having a stronger airforce, we can directly affect the outcomes of both naval and ground battles in our favour. A great airforce is nicely compatible with our 'Use Spain as a fallback point plan' as we can circumvent the problems with low infrastructure in the area by having a portion of our fighting power in the air.

 

[Isoceth]

I concur with the initial plan for the industrialisation of the Raj. I agree with the focus on mainland Europe for the meantime. I believe there may be a risk of a Japanese focus on the Raj to eliminate the largest native allied power in the region, but it is nothing that cannot be solved with a liberal application of colonial soldiers.
Welcome on board Czechoslovakia.