All the Russias: A Mod Preview for HOI2

[The_Carbonater]

The reclaiming the empire events for USSR needs to be fixed

 

[Sarmatia1871]

Question: I'd like to do three things.
1) Translate the mod into German.
2) Update it for Armageddon.
3) Add a couple of events and change the techtree a little bit.

Am I allowed to do that, or are there reservations?

Yeah, sure - it may be a good idea if you coordinate this with Akira if you're both volunteering to do similar things.

 

[Sarmatia1871]

The reclaiming the empire events for USSR needs to be fixed

What about them needs to be fixed?

 

[Akira]

What about them needs to be fixed?

I'll take care of it, I know what's the problem.

1) Translate the mod into German. 2) Update it for Armageddon. 3) Add a couple of events and change the techtree a little bit.

1) Go ahead, but after I make the update.
2) It should work with Armageddon anyway, for now I see no need to make a specific version(although I am yet to get Armageddon, probably today). I'll make the mod for DD.
3) You can try, just post everything here for me to see.
I plan to release my update on May 1-9.

 

[unmerged(57228)]

Mmkay.

 

[The_Carbonater]

I thought that the claiming of mongolia didn't worked for USSR since the tag for the country receiving them is Russia:wacko:

 

[Akira]

I played two games as Russia and it was really interesting. I will definitely play a few more games.
I made some notes during these games:
Questions:
I didn't find any events to get the Armenian and Turkestan provinces as Russian cores. Is this WAD?
As Russia my belligerence skyrockets due to the event choices I made. I paid no heed to it and was at 160 in Feb 1939. This is maybe a bit too much.

Errors:
Event 750088 Ultimatum to the cossacks doesn't check whether you are already at war with them.

event 750007 Patriarch's Demands: Minor typo: stte instead of state

event 740073 choice c: Head of Government is changed twice:
command = { type = headofgovernment which = 4159 }
command = { type = headofgovernment which = 4160 }

event 750019 the autocracy choice b: Head of Government is changed twice:
command = { type = headofgovernment which = 4159 }
command = { type = headofgovernment which = 4160 }

events 750096 and all other "Faith and Nation" events: the description text is cut off after "A loose organisation calling itself"
This is probably because there are two " in the text.

OOB: Air-leader Alksnis, Belov, Gerasimov, Kopets, Smushkevich and Kharlarmov are listed twice
Navy Admirals Drozd, Dushenov, Galler, Kireev are listed twice
Some army leaders too, I didn't check.

Setup Ideas:
- All the light Great war artillery at the start of the scenario could be heavy artillery, so you could at least think about keeping them.
- Russia should have at least the Great War ships researched. if they don't habe the techs for game balance reasons you could instead make the naval tech team worse.

Found these, taken into consideration.

 

[Herbert West]

What the real title of the song defined as "Bolshevik leaves home"?
I am grateful for any information

 

[Sarmatia1871]

What the real title of the song defined as "Bolshevik leaves home"?
I am grateful for any information

It is apparently called "проводы (красноармейская песня)" (so "Send-off (Red Army Song)"...?) and two versions and lyrics can be found here: http://www.sovmusic.ru/english/result.php?part=1&type=simple

 

[Akira]

We should have a little less Communist songs in ATRus, although I do like some a lot, especially "Нас давит, товарищи,власть капитала"

 

[Sarmatia1871]

We should have a little less Communist songs in ATRus, although I do like some a lot, especially "Нас давит, товарищи,власть капитала"

That we should, although I did make an effort with the last version - non-Communist ones from the correct period are rather more difficult to find!

 

[Akira]

I am afraid I don't have enough time and material to make an update, so I'll postpone it until mid-June.

 

[Faeelin]

I had a question. Why does Russia start out with such low IC?

I mean, I get that they're not the Soviet Union, but it seems odd that they don't even break a hundred...

 

[Akaki]

Why does Russia start out with such low IC?

Uhm... Maybe because they start without half of their former territory?

 

[Sarmatia1871]

Uhm... Maybe because they start without half of their former territory?

In addition, there's been the whole disruption of the civil war, with no Five Year plans or crash industrialization programmes.

 

[cegorach]

I just wanted to say that the particular mod is really, really great !

I enjoy well prepared alternative history so it was a pleasure to play it.

The only thing which stops me now is the fact it is still NOT for Armageddon - unfortunatelly the new modernisation brigades for the warships are one of my most favourite feature in the game right now and because Japan is just after Poland in the queue you know why...

I realise it is not easy to prepare a good mod - I am a modder myself - and it takes time, but still is the Legacy of the Weltkrieg advanced enough to expect an update of this particular mod before summer ?

 

[Faeelin]

In addition, there's been the whole disruption of the civil war, with no Five Year plans or crash industrialization programmes.

Except Russia had the civil war OTL, as well; and Russia's open to foreign investment in a way that OTL's Soviet Union was not.

(Actually a lot about the map does't make sense, but since it's a neat concept I'll go away).

 

[NikkTheTrick]

Except Russia had the civil war OTL, as well; and Russia's open to foreign investment in a way that OTL's Soviet Union was not.

Two things need to be kept in mind.

First, USSR embarked upon MASSIVE industrialization, throwing human lives left and right. Russia in this mod was way more concerned with keeping stability.

Second, foreign trade might encourage Russia to focus on agriculture. Since IC reflects nation's ability to produce rifles, tanks, airplanec, etc - focusing on what makes money might result in lower IC. Just look at US: even though theirt production was WAY greater than that of USSR, they still start with only slightly more IC.

 

[Faeelin]

Two things need to be kept in mind.

First, USSR embarked upon MASSIVE industrialization, throwing human lives left and right. Russia in this mod was way more concerned with keeping stability.

Here's the thing.

Russia embarked on massive industrialization, but it wasn't terribly efficient; look at the outcome in the Ukraine. Why couldn't a Russia relying on foreign capital and government support industrialize just as well?

You'd see more light industry, sure.

Second, foreign trade might encourage Russia to focus on agriculture. Since IC reflects nation's ability to produce rifles, tanks, airplanec, etc - focusing on what makes money might result in lower IC. Just look at US: even though theirt production was WAY greater than that of USSR, they still start with only slightly more IC.

And therefore it should be more tied in with foreign events, no?

 

[GeneralHannibal]

Russia is this TL is wasting away. Any foreign capital contribution would be countered by the '29 crash, and Russia is this TL has barely been able to keep from civil war. Much of European Russia may have been devastated due to the civil war, and little industrialization would result in little progress in or east of the urals.