All Shall Feel Wrath Of The Horde - Oirat Horde AAR

[Serbian Knight]

Hello there

As I said, I'll be starting new AAR, Oirat Horde this time


I probably won't be able to write as fast as I did with last one, and I will slightly alter style of writting and will try to be more deital.

Primary objective will be to become as strong as possibile, form Mughal Empire then, and after that, go wherevere road takes me


With Ming and other knocking on my door, it won't be easy game that's for sure, and I only hope that I won't get annexed too early before things start to be really interesting

Hope you'll enjoy

Prologue will follow shortly....

Table Of Contents

Prologue

Chapter 1 - As Shaman Commands

Episode 1 – Lots Of Bad Chinese People
Episode 2 – War With Bad Chinese People


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[Serbian Knight]

Prologue

It has been almost 200 years since Genghis Khan visited us and since his son Jochi ruled our lands in name of Great Mongol Empire. Its has been long time since our shaman-chief Quduqa Baki tried to stop his armies with thunder stone yada and failed.

Since then, our great warriors traveled far away from our homes near Lake Baikal. Our armies fought Hashashins and Mamluk armies when we fought for glory of Ilkhanate at Battle of Homs.

Hundred years ago Mamluks and other Muslims exorcized us from Syria and Baghdad. We have been on ruins of Babylon and out brethren led by Great Khans reached city called Vienna on Far West. But we are there no more. We are forgotten now. Its been a long time since Oirat people played significant part in history. We are forgotten at the West now, and we have forgotten them. For a century we were weak.

But Alliance of Four, Dorben Oirat, is formed now. We shall rise again. And Mamluks shall pay for their ignorance.
But old maps has been lost. We don’t know what’s happening on the West now. We have even lost contact with our former allies, Golden Horde.

Our only brethren in this world now are Chagatai Khanate and Mongol Khanate. But our brothers in Mongolia are subject of Chinese dynasty Ming. And they are not too friendly with us also. They must be dealt with before we go to west following steps of Genghis Khan and take revenge on Muslims.

All shall feel wrath of the Horde. Oirat Horde. Eventualy. Hopefully.


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[rexodia48]

This looks like a good AAR. Ill be following!

 

[L Lawliet]

Me too. Good luck (you'll need it).

 

[Serbian Knight]

This looks like a good AAR. Ill be following!

I just hope it would last long

Me too. Good luck (you'll need it).

I will surely need it. But I'm afraid that I spent all luck I got in my last game:rofl:

 

[Serbian Knight]

Chapter 1 – As Shaman Commands

Episode 1 – Lots Of Bad Chinese People

And there we go. Horde have much to do. Our mighty Khan asked for map of surroundings from Chief Shaman. He drew one himself while being trance ritual:

Conclusion is easy. Chagatai and Mongol Khanates are our potential friends. Problem is that they don’t like our Shamans, especially Mongols. And they are vassal of Ming. Chagatai is indifferent to us and we hope that it will change. In positive way, of course.

Bad Chinese People call themselves Ming, and they are really big and bad. All we can hope is that they don’t come after horde.

Scary Chinese People are just scary. Shaman says that they live in mountains and practice some weirdo stuff with their minds. They are better left alone for some time. Or next more braver Khan and Shaman.

More Chinese People are just even more of those small yellow men, but they are to far away to bother Horde.

And as in trance Shaman remembers, there is Golden Horde out there somewhere. They must be willing to help our mighty Khan.

Shaman still can’t explain why everyone else hate our Shamanism.

We are blessed with Center of Trade:

However, we are cursed with Muslim living there. As soon as Khan get some new shaman on his hands, he will be sent there to convince all that good people of Altai that it is much better to pray to Holy Thunder and his friends than to some dude with beard called Allah.

Its not nice however that nobody wants to trade in Altai except us.

Our mighty Khan is not bad that monarch and is decent cavalry leader:

We need to train some horseman quickly.

Khan decides to invest all in increasing Stability:

We should reach +3 Stability quickly, and then all must be invested in Government tech. It was very neat to bi Tribal Federation, but Shaman have convinced Khan that there are better ways to rule.

Khan decides that everyone’s words must be heard, no matter how stupid they might be. If someone talks to much, we can always send him to Altai to help Shamans convert those friendly Muslims.:

Khan quickly moves to establish Embassy:

We must keep good relations and hopefully ally with Chagatai, so someone can protect us from all that Bad Chinese People.

It didn’t took long for wars to start in the region:

Shaman’s knowledge about them is limited, but he feels that Bengal with that saber on the flag must kick ass out of Assam.

Khan sent one of his most fancy dressed Shaman to Chagatai to cast spells and beg for alliance. He succeeded:

Holy Thunder have other plans however:

Our mighty forces will need Holy Thunder’s assistance if we are ever to fight Chagatai Khanate, but our mighty can don’t plan that in near future.

Great Shaman is still confident that Saber-people will win all their wars:

In the end, what is point of having saber on your flag if you don’t know how to use it well?

Bad Chinese People don’t like our good people:

Shaman advises Khan not to go to wars. Like there are someone who we could fight against at this stage.

But, 3000 brave horseman will join Khan’s mighty army to please Shaman and his need to have bigger army.

Shaman have found out that there is great Empire on east that worship Holy Giant Crab. Khan love Crabs, so he sent his favorite of twenty daughters:

Great Emperor Bunei of Ryukyu accepted her for his strong crab-like son. Khan doesn’t know much about this great Empire, but Shaman convinces him that they have lands far, far on the east, to the very end of the world. There live Holy Giant Crab. Shaman saw her in one of his visions.

Khan believes him, because our Shaman is one very wise guy and it is not wise to oppose him since he knows how to call Holy Thunder.

Some of More Chinese People decides to war for title of Morest™ Chinese People:

That is what Shaman thinks.

Bad Chinese People have also warned our Crab friends. Khan is to scared to intervene them, because there is so many Bad Chinese People.

Holy Thunder awards Khan for his good relations with Great Crab:

Bad Chinese People are coming:

Shaman completes ritual of casting Holy Thunder on them. He fails miserably.

But he did manage one thing. To piss them off:

Mighty Khan will now lead even mightier Horde to war for first time. May Holy Thunder be with us. And our mighty Shaman of course.

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[Serbian Knight]

Episode 2 – War With Bad Chinese People

Like it wasn’t enough, Horde is left outside alone. Chagatai Khanate refused to help us. Funny is that we are still allied.

Mighty Khan leads armies to first victory:

Shamans can now talk in generations how we defeated Bad Chinese People. At least once.

Bad Chinese People are incoming like there is no tomorrow:

It will be hard to track them down, but Khan is powerful enough to defeat every single army of them. Alone. If they start combining forces, only Shaman can save us.

Mighty Khan gives Shaman even more to brag about:

And we have 1000 fresh horsemen to assist us in this war.

Bad Chinese People might be big but they are stupid:

Even our junior Shamans know that you can’t win war without Generals.

Another Chinese army is defeated:

But they got back-up and first Oirat city have fallen:

Khan decides to scorch province of Hovd and retreat.

Bad Chinese People don’t play by the rules:

We defeat them once again.

And they even had General this time. Khan chase their army and destroy it, but Bad Chinese People continue their progress trough our unfortified lands.

After great success on battlefield, all Oirat chiefs decides that Toghon Tayisi is more than capable:

Scary Chinese People think they are so bad:

Shaman and Khan agrees that things are not looking good. Not at all.

Bad Chinese People unrightfully took even more of our provinces:

And we lost our first battle:

Things were looking good even when we were fighting army twice of our size, but they just kept coming and coming and coming and we stood no chance.

Like this wasn’t enough, Scary Chinese People declare war on us:

Only positive is that our only remaining province bordering with them is under siege already.

Saber people share our luck:

As a result of this, Khan decides to sack Shaman because he got it all wrong, especially Holy Thunder Summoning Spells. New Shaman took his place:

He is old Shaman’s twin brother, but Khan hope that he will do better. He start Holy Thunder Summoning Dance immediately.

After a long battle, we are defeated again:

Things are starting to look rather hopeless.

Our army in exile continue to fight bravely:

But our capital and last remaining province falls.

And that combined with this:

Led to:

After just 3 years, Oirat Horde have fallen under Ming rule.

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Epic FAIL

Probably shortest AAR in history:rofl::rofl:


By the way, I'm eager to start over, but is there any, slightiest chance that Ming won't dow me with first diplomat?

I think that game is incredibily unfair against so-called pagans.....just because they weren't mainstream religion doesn't mean that you can take their land like they are stupid......it would take me 500% warscore to return my lands even if I somehow managed to defeat them when I was reduced to few provinces

Native Americans stand chance becouse you have couple of decades or maybe even more to prepare for Europeans, but I here couldn't even reach my force limit before they dow me......and thats pretty much game over:wacko:

Is there any way to defeat Ming/avoid conflict?

I tried to offer them Military Access and tought that they would back off because -5 stability hit, but they rejected

 

[Scorpi]

Interesting idea, but why forming Mughal instead of Qing in China?

 

[Serbian Knight]

Interesting idea, but why forming Mughal instead of Qing in China?

Because Mughal are more interesting IMO......but I will first need to find way how to survive

 

[Vladislav]

Here's what you can try to do:

1) Open your EUIII program folder and open the "common" folder.
2) Open the "religion.txt" file and scroll down to the pagan religions.
3) Change "annex = yes" to "annex = no"
4) Now pagan provinces can only be taken in peace deals

Even then... I don't know if you could stop Ming. But you could certainly try!

 

[enkhuush]

Good try.

I think extreme luck will help you.

May be changing religion will help you?

Or become vassal of Ming?

 

[Serbian Knight]

Here's what you can try to do:

1) Open your EUIII program folder and open the "common" folder.
2) Open the "religion.txt" file and scroll down to the pagan religions.
3) Change "annex = yes" to "annex = no"
4) Now pagan provinces can only be taken in peace deals

Even then... I don't know if you could stop Ming. But you could certainly try!

Would that stop them siezing from my provinces like they are colonies or just they won't be able to annex me whith 100% warscore?

Good try.

I think extreme luck will help you.

May be changing religion will help you?

Or become vassal of Ming?

Only thing that can save me is if couple of nations declare war on Ming before they do on me, and that would need enormous amount of luck

I was thinking about becoming their vassal also.....is there any way for me to offer myself?

Changing religion and editing that religion.txt would be some kind of cheating and it would be much more cooler to achieve anything with regular pagan.....if it is possible at all....anyone have expierence with Oirat Horde?


And I also noticed one thing......if you take Horde or Ryukyu everybody will dow you almost immediately, but if AI controls them, they could survive in peace for couple of centuries sometimes......why



@enkhuush you're from Mongolia, right?
You probably know when Oirat Horde turned Buddhist.....becouse they do at some point in game if you take 1600s start......at 1399 were there enough Buddhists in the region to justify changing religion?

 

[L Lawliet]

You could try lowering AI aggressiveness to Low.

 

[Serbian Knight]

That would disbalance game in my opinion and Ming will probably think that pagan neighbor would be easy pray......I'll ask on general forums if there is any strategy with them

 

[enkhuush]

Actually

Buddhists entered the service of Mongol Empire in the early 13th century. However, Buddhist monasteries established in Karakorum and their clerics were granted tax exempts, the religion was given official status by the Mongols quite later.

After that when Oirat become buddhist is

In 1578 sparked the second introduction of Tibetan Buddhism to Mongolia.

I think you should ally powerful countries like Manchu or Ming in order to survive. Also this is matter of luck, because Ming gets Oirat mission.

 

[enkhuush]

Also Altai is muslim, right? May it's chance to survive. Make Altai convert to animist and your missionary maintanence to zero. When it revolts accept it's demand and Oirat Horde will be Muslim. Viola! Otherwise it would be very hard to fight against Ming.

One option is become vassal of Ming. And when they offer alliance offer accept it and cancel your vassalization.

 

[Vladislav]

Would that stop them siezing from my provinces like they are colonies or just they won't be able to annex me whith 100% warscore?

It means they can't seize your provinces as though they were colonies.

 

[Fronzel]

Probably shortest AAR in history:rofl::rofl:

Au contraire.

 

[Serbian Knight]

Well, this is at least one of shortest


I'll give it a go with some other nation......Asian Minor preferably.......or Timurids

 

[enkhuush]

I recommend you Tsagadai. It would be decent AAR.