"All Power Costs" doesn't apply to diplomatic annexation?

[Dante Hidemark]

Hi all, I am trying my luck on the Big Blue Blob achievement. The current estimate is that I annex Novgorod at August 1499, and I wanted better margins so I enacted my golden age, reducing all power costs by 10%. But the annexation cost is not recalculated. Is this a bug, or WAD? Patch 1.22 Hungary.

 

[heliostellar]

Bug report it. I don't think that is intentional.

 

[FrogCrusher]

Hi all, I am trying my luck on the Big Blue Blob achievement. The current estimate is that I annex Novgorod at August 1499, and I wanted better margins so I enacted my golden age, reducing all power costs by 10%. But the annexation cost is not recalculated. Is this a bug, or WAD? Patch 1.22 Hungary.

Independant of the question but max out your diplomatic reputation. In that way, you will be able to spend more dip point per month for the annexation which will finisher earlier (advisor and curia actions are easy to plot).

 

[Badesumofu]

Hi all, I am trying my luck on the Big Blue Blob achievement. The current estimate is that I annex Novgorod at August 1499, and I wanted better margins so I enacted my golden age, reducing all power costs by 10%. But the annexation cost is not recalculated. Is this a bug, or WAD? Patch 1.22 Hungary.

I believe it reduces the cost but not the time. So you'll gain progress at the standard rate towards the same target but actually be charged 10% less in points.

 

[heliostellar]

I believe it reduces the cost but not the time. So you'll gain progress at the standard rate towards the same target but actually be charged 10% less in points.

Lower cost is also lower time.

 

[Badesumofu]

Lower cost is also lower time.

It is with things that specifically reduce diplo integration cost, yes, along with admin efficiency. It doesn't *have* to be that way, though, and -all power costs is a unique modifier.

To put it another way - as I understand the modifier, what it does is simply charge you 10% less mana whenever you spend mana. It doesn't reduce coring time or OE either (as CCR and Admin Eff do respectively). It works differently to other modifiers.

 

[PhoenixG]

iirc their are other things that the golden age doesn't reduce. Like culture conversion.

 

[Simoleum]

iirc their are other things that the golden age doesn't reduce. Like culture conversion.

That's pretty weird, considering how it should be a more powerful force to change someone's culture if the subject's overlord is in a golden age. Sorta like Arabization and Romanization

 

[ahyangyi]

Curiously, does that also mean you might not suffer additional costs when you annex a vassal at high corruption?

 

[Dante Hidemark]

Thanks for the answers, forgot to duplicate my save so I cannot bug report, but anyway I made it so YEY! I will continue with WC and perhaps OF if I manage, haven't done anything harder than this or Mare Nostrum but I am in a really sweet position now.

Neither the time or the cost changed and I waited a year and still nothing. It would be interesting to see exactly what costs were modified and what costs were not.

 

[Simoleum]

Curiously, does that also mean you might not suffer additional costs when you annex a vassal at high corruption?

You don't if I remember correctly. Got corruption while doing it and couldnt see any change

 

[ahyangyi]

Sounds like a short-term debase currency - expand - integration combo could be quite effective.

 

[Splax77]

This is correct and has been the case ever since debase currency was introduced. All power costs modifier does not apply to diplo annexation or culture conversions, and Paradox has never bothered to fix it.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

iirc their are other things that the golden age doesn't reduce. Like culture conversion.

A few patches back they made it so that none of the -culture cost modifiers speed it up IIRC.

Sounds like a short-term debase currency - expand - integration combo could be quite effective.

Quite, I didn't realize that dip annexation ignored this stuff.