All of my courtiers share same heir

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I my current game (now Byz. Emperor) all of my courtiers appear to share the same heir for some reason. (As a side note, my court is huge, over 200. The display stacks all of the courtiers on top of each other on the Emperor's screen.)

 

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You have Elective Law and in Elective Law all courtiers will be inherited by the guy with highest martial in your court. Your emperor would be too, if you wouldn't have any vassals.

 

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You have Elective Law and in Elective Law all courtiers will be inherited by the guy with highest martial in your court. Your emperor would be too, if you wouldn't have any vassals.

No, he doesn't have the highest martial. He has a martial of 14. The next in line is a 5 year old with a martial of 12, followed by a 3 year old with a martial of 10 and then by my marshal who has a martial rating of 19! So elective law may explain why all courtiers have the same heir - but the ranking makes no sense. (My marshall has more prestige and money and the same amount of piety as everyone ahead of him.) There is also one man with a martial of 15 who is not even on the list of heirs.

As an aside, to put it bluntly, courtiers should inherit some other way - the "heir of the court" guy now has ~15-20 different claims that have fallen to him. Why court members cannot by default have their cash and claims go to their eldest son is something I find strange.

 

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No, he doesn't have the highest martial. He has a martial of 14. The next in line is a 5 year old with a martial of 12, followed by a 3 year old with a martial of 10 and then by my marshal who has a martial rating of 19! So elective law may explain why all courtiers have the same heir - but the ranking makes no sense. (My marshall has more prestige and money and the same amount of piety as everyone ahead of him.) There is also one man with a martial of 15 who is not even on the list of heirs.

Well, the "Strongest" determination is odd, I just have noticed that martial has effect on it and I have never had so many courtiers as you using Elective Law.

As an aside, to put it bluntly, courtiers should inherit some other way - the "heir of the court" guy now has ~15-20 different claims that have fallen to him. Why court members cannot by default have their cash and claims go to their eldest son is something I find strange.

Change your inheritance law to Salic Primogeniture and everyone has their own eldest son inherit. The game is working correctly for your law and if you don't like it, you should change the law.

 

[Donnie D]

Well, the "Strongest" determination is odd, I just have noticed that martial has effect on it and I have never had so many courtiers as you using Elective Law.

I´ts not only the Martial Ability , but also , the Desmense , and other Posession...

 

[Solmyr]

Other stats have an effect in elective law too, I've noticed. High diplomacy in particular seems to help.

 

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Other stats have an effect in elective law too, I've noticed. High diplomacy in particular seems to help.

As of may 24, 1153 the following are the heirs of the court (not the emperor):

                             M/D/I/S  Pres/Piety/Gold
Alexios Rurikovich          11/9/5/7     5/ 0/7297
Konstantinos of Zyraine     11/7/4/9    15/ 0/0
Yaropolk Rurikovich         18/8/8/2   140/ 0/8750  (marshal)
Michael Chouros             14/8/7/0    65/ 0/1655
Stanislav Rurikovich        12/5/6/8    15/ 0/0
Iaropolk Rurikovich          7/7/8/7    55/ 0/0
Ladislav of Zyraine          8/6/7/7    50/ 0/0
Momtchil of Zyraine         13/4/8/6    65/ 0/0
Adrianos of Zyraine         10/7/7/6     0/10/0
Isaakios Chouros             4/0/0/0    65/ 0/0

Conspicuously not on list:

Vladimir Rurikovich         15/8/8/8   65/ 0/1058
Iaroslav Rurikovich         14/9/7/7   65/ 0/1159
Anten Rurikovich            13/7/8/7   15/ 0/0

Perhaps the size of my court (175 adults) is a problem - or perhaps there is something else going on in the succession selection code? (I mean, WTF is Isaakios doing there?)

As to using elective law for my court - I just find it strange that one depressed 13 yr. old is heir to 174 other people.