Albania is much harder after 1.8.1...New AI is ridiculous

[Skyaway]

Copy from patch NOTE

1.8.0
You can no longer get 100% warscore from just fully occupying warleader unless warleader is alone in the war OR war has been going on for at least 5 years

1.8.1 change
- AI: Much less willing to end a war if they are fully occupying the enemy warleader and 5 years have not passed.

New AI seems design for AI annex small country with ally, but it make some tricky situation...

Play Albania isnt that hard in 1.8.0 or before, Ottoman give peace offer soon after my capital got occupied (usually in 1446)
As it cant annex me (Bosnia's province was occupied by me, Ottoman has only 99% warscore to me)

But 1.8.1 AI make Ottoman crazy... delay peace offer until 1449 or even later, and war-exhaustion run max...
The peace offer delay is ridiculous, AI wait 5 year for notihng but defeat!
warscore is still 99%, AI just waste his time to punish me


1.8.0 change seems to protect small country
1.8.1 change seems to torment small country

I don't think this AI improve is design for that...

 

[Poh]

You decided to "game" the rules by occupying another countrys province to force the warscore below 100% so it cant annex you. As a player would you accept anything except annexation from Albania in that case? i know i wouldnt, why should the AI?

 

[Lakedaimon]

Sounds to me like they managed to plug another loophole then.

 

[Skyaway]

AI wait 5 year for nothing
Nothing!
I dont think AI improve is design to make AI wait for nothing
It should be restricted for the case ally exist

In my consider
AI wait 5 year to get 100% warscore is for someone who has ally
For no-ally country, wait cant lead to annex
So it should be excluded for AI judgement

 

[wergy]

The 5 years waiting time is indeed kinda ridiculous. it produces far more weird situations as it should...

 

[Aries666]

I don't think the rule was balanced or designed around playing Albania and nor should it be.

 

[Skyaway]

Albania is just one case I met
Hotfix for the new AI balance is too crude
in the older patch, AI send peace offer as it find no more target to do
But 1.8.1 force AI wait for 5 year even if no any target

 

[Gustav91]

Why doesn't Ottomans undo your Bosnia siege?

 

[MadDjinn]

Why doesn't Ottomans undo your Bosnia siege?

just as interesting...

Why do sieges count for WS? It's not like he 'owns' that province in Bosnia, so it shouldn't change the WS calculation when the Ottomans have seiged 100% of actual Albania.

 

[ahyangyi]

AI wait 5 year for nothing
Nothing!
I dont think AI improve is design to make AI wait for nothing
It should be restricted for the case ally exist

In my consider
AI wait 5 year to get 100% warscore is for someone who has ally
For no-ally country, wait cant lead to annex
So it should be excluded for AI judgement

Yeah. And in general, AI keeps fighting to 100% warscore then peace out of a 11% peace offer because there's nothing more to do. This should be fixed

 

[grandad1982]

Please avoid using coloured text. It makes it hard to read!

 

[Skyaway]

AI Ottoman did undo my siege sometimes
but not very eager, most of the case is chasing my beloved Skënderbeu
If I hide to otherwhere, AI go idle

 

[Freudia]

I don't think the rule was balanced or designed around playing Albania and nor should it be.

I don't think the rule was balanced at all, honestly. It creates many weird scenarios where a nation can't be full annexed because another person is in the war, but that person can't hope to get access to you to even fight in the war, let alone actually make a difference.

 

[yerm]

The solution is more nations need to white peace out of wars, and less relation penalties for doing so. Also, needing 100% for full annex no exceptions is kind of silly. I get what it's meant to do, but it's a stubbornly simple fix that could be a lot better if more went into it (I mean if nothing else, full annex should take someone's cash!)