Nicephorus said:
I would really like to talk about the Pechenegs. While it is true that in the 750s their "empire" comprised the regions between the Urals and the Volga, that empire had moved into the regions between the Danube and the Crimea a hundred years later. This happened because the Khazars simply expelled them, so they had to go west
Any ideas how to simulate such an exodus?
Something that has been at the back of my mind and making an appearence every so often. The same is with the Magyars moving into 'Hungary'. Nevertheless, some-one stated that it should not be 'automatic' i.e. to just happen - be too deterministic.
So I think it should be done by events, but have historical and ahistorical choices (of course). My first thought was if (in the case of Petchenegs say) Khazars annex Petchenegs (or own key provinces) events can fire to either absorb the Petchenegs into Khazar or expel them. Events may then fire for nations in between the Petchenegs old 'nation' and where they end up, where the events detail the Petchenegs migration which could add revoltrisk (by the Petcheneg refugees as well as annoyed locals. In the case of the Petchenegs being annexed they could then materialise from the revolts.....
....problem = revolt entry. You would need two entries, one for pre-migratory Petchenegs and one for after with the province revolt numbers being different for each. Can a country tag have two entries (even if the dates do not overlap?) or will it just read one. A solution is to use another country tag for after the migration (in which case one could conceivably have two Petchenegs if only key provinces are required, not annexation) and it is a bit bulky, especially as there are several such examples - Petchenegs, Magyars, Tver, The Thai (from Nan Chao) etc.
One could use the Spanish expulsion of the Moors from vanilla GC as an example, but it is the 'creation' of the new state that may be the worry. Even so, this is just a quick brainstorm.
yours
Ayeshteni
