AJFIFU 1.08 (unofficial mod of IFU)

[Ayeshteni]

I have decided to rehaul the IFU, to bring it up to date with 1.08, make it in English, and maybe bring some interest back to this mod (which is very good). This will be unofficial (I have no contact with the original developers), so all errors and srew ups will be on my head only.

To date most of the crossover to 1.08 has been completed, while only the events need to be retagged and re-ideed (is that a word!) and translated from pseudo-English into readable English.

The plan is to update monarch and leader lists, provide a wealth of new events, relook at some of the existing events (at the moment I am looking at redoing the Francia breakup events) ans so on.

For the now, I shall provide the new tag lists etc.

TAGS---------------NAME OF COUNTRY(+old IFU tag)

ADE
AFG------------------------
AKK------------------------
ALB------------------------abrodites (shl)
ALD------------------------
ALI
AMI
ANN------------------------
APA
AQU------------------------aquataine (auv)
ARA
ARG------------------------aragon (arg)
ARK
ARM------------------------
ASH------------------------
ASS
AST------------------------
ATH------------------------
ATJ------------------------
AUV
AYU------------------------
AZT------------------------
BAD------------------------
BAL------------------------
BAN------------------------
BAY------------------------bavaria (bay)
BEI------------------------
BEN------------------------
BGL------------------------
BOH------------------------bohemia (boh)
BOS------------------------bosnia (bos)
BOU------------------------
BRA------------------------
BRE------------------------
BRI------------------------brittany (bri)
BRZ------------------------duchy of burgundy (str)
BUL------------------------bulgaria (bul)
BUR------------------------kingdom of burgundy (bur)
BYZ------------------------byzantium (byz)
CAL------------------------
CAM------------------------
CAN------------------------
CAS------------------------castille (cas)
CAT------------------------valencia (cat)
CHA------------------------
CHE------------------------
CHG------------------------
CHI------------------------china (chi)
CHM------------------------
COL------------------------
COR------------------------
CRE------------------------
CRI------------------------
CRO------------------------croatia (cro)
CYP------------------------
CYR------------------------
DAH------------------------
DAI------------------------
DAK------------------------
DAN------------------------denmark (dan)
DEL------------------------
DLH------------------------
DUL------------------------
EIR------------------------eire (eir)
ENG------------------------england (roy)
ETH------------------------
FEZ
FIN------------------------Finland (ade)
FLA------------------------flanders (gel)
FPR------------------------lotharingia (lor)
FR2-(N/A)
FRA------------------------frankreich/france (kol)
FRI------------------------frisia (fri)
FUC------------------------francia occidentalis (gre)
GBR-(N/A)
GEL
GEN------------------------
GEO------------------------
GRA------------------------granada (mor)
GRE------------------------
GUJ
HAB---(Emperor bonus)------francia (fra)???
HAI------------------------
HAN------------------------
HAU------------------------
HEI------------------------Imperium Romanum (mam)
HEL------------------------helvetica (chm)
HES------------------------
HOL------------------------
HSA------------------------
HUN------------------------avars (hun)
HUR
HYD
INC
IRA
ITA------------------------italy (man)
JAI
JER------------------------
KAL------------------------celtic kingdom (suz)
KAR------------------------Karelia (kar)
KAZ------------------------khazar khanate (ste)
KHM------------------------
KLE------------------------
KNI------------------------
KOL
KON------------------------
KOR------------------------korea/silla (kon)
KSH
KUR------------------------kurland (kur)
KZK
LAP------------------------lappland (lap)
LAT------------------------regnum teutonicorum (rag)
LIT------------------------lithuania (lit)
LOR------------------------lothringen/lorraine (han)
LUA
LUX------------------------
MAA
MAG
MAH
MAI
MAL------------------------
MAM------------------------
MAN
MCH------------------------manchuria (mch)
MEC
MER-USED-------------------
MEX
MIN------------------------
MKS
MLC
MLO------------------------langobardia (mlo)
MLW
MOG------------------------
MOL------------------------
MOR------------------------idrisids (ira)
MOS------------------------moskovy (mog)
MTR
MUN
MYA
MYS
NAP------------------------benevento (nap)
NAT-USED-------------------
NAV------------------------
NIP------------------------nippon (atj)
NOG
NOR------------------------norway (nor)
NVG------------------------novgorod (nip)
OHI
OLD
OMA
ORI
ORL
PAP-MUST BE PAP------------papal states (pap)
PAR------------------------
PEG
PER------------------------
PFA------------------------pfalz (pfa)
PIR-USED-------------------
PIS------------------------
POL------------------------poland (pol)
POM------------------------pommerania (pom)
POR------------------------portugal (por)
PRM------------------------perm (kni)
PRO------------------------
PRS-BUGGY?
PRU------------------------borussia (pru)
PSK
PUR
QAR------------------------quarmaten (qar)
QUE
RAG------------------------
REB-USED-------------------
ROY------------------------mercia (eng)
RUS------------------------russia (prm)
RYA------------------------riazan (ark)
SAC------------------------saxony (sac)
SAR
SAV------------------------savoy (sav)
SCO------------------------Alba (alb)
SER------------------------serbia (ser)
SHA------------------------sammanids (sud)
SHL
SIB------------------------
SIC------------------------sicily (sic)
SIE------------------------
SLZ------------------------silinger (slz)
SON------------------------slovenia (tre)
SPA------------------------
SPR---(no tag in txt.csv, but useable)
STE------------------------
STR------------------------
SUD------------------------
SUZ------------------------vladimir-suzdal (ayu)
SWE------------------------sweden (swe)
TAU------------------------toledo (tri)
TEK
THU------------------------thuringia (thu)
TIB------------------------tibet (tib)
TIM------------------------
TOS------------------------tuscany (tos)
TRE------------------------
TRI------------------------saffarids (son)
TUN------------------------rustamids (rus)
TUR------------------------tverians (ukr)
TVE------------------------tverians (old)
U00------------------------aghlabids (akk)
U01------------------------vladimir-volensk (ast)
U02------------------------novgorod-seversk (ath)
U03------------------------drevlia (bad)
U04------------------------badojaz (bal)
U05------------------------gascogne (bou)
U06------------------------sorbia (bra)
U07------------------------radimich (brz)
U08------------------------al-andalus (cor)
U09------------------------kievan rus (cre)
U10------------------------dal riada (dai)
U11------------------------white croatia (sie)
U12------------------------carantania (fla)
U13------------------------tchudia (fpr)
U14------------------------kent (gen)
U15------------------------greater novgorod (geo)
U16------------------------ghaznavids (guj)
U17------------------------viatichia (hai)
U18------------------------verwendet (azt)
U19------------------------votland (bre)
U20------------------------moravia (hau)
U21------------------------semgaller (hel)
U22------------------------vepsen (hes)
U23------------------------halyc (hyd)
U24------------------------mordvinia (rya)
U25------------------------krivichi (jer)
U26------------------------wessex (xho)
U27------------------------lettgaller (kzk)
U28------------------------poljania (lux)
U29------------------------estland (mag)
U30------------------------volga Bulgars (mec)
U31------------------------mazovia (mex)
U32------------------------magyars (mol)
U33------------------------ilmen (mos)
U34------------------------murcia (mya)
U35------------------------strathclyde (orl)
U36------------------------merja (par)
U37------------------------perejaslavl (peg)
U38------------------------northumbria (pur)
U39------------------------vislanes (que)
UKR------------------------
USA------------------------waag basiners (usa)
UZB------------------------russian khanate (pro)
VEN------------------------venice (ven)
VIE
VIJ
WAL------------------------
WLS------------------------wales (wls)
WUR------------------------
XHO------------------------
ZAN------------------------zengids (zan)
ZAP
ZIM------------------------
ZUL------------------------
ABB------------------------abbassid khalifate (tim)
ALE
ALM
ALT
ANH
ANJ------------------------anjou (ann)
APU------------------------apulia (pis)
AMG
ART
ASU------------------------asturias (nav)
AYY
BAE------------------------baleares (bgl)
BAS
BEA
BUK------------------------black croatia (wal)
CMG------------------------champagne (cha)
CRG------------------------chernigov (che)
COI
CON------------------------connachta (fin)
CRD
CNW------------------------cornwall (kor)
CUM
DAM
DAU
EDE
EGY------------------------misr al-arabiya (nvg)
FAT------------------------fatimids (fez)
FRC------------------------franconia (mai)
GER------------------------francia orientalis (fuc)
GOT
HAM------------------------hamdanids (psk)
HLL
ICE
IST
JUT
KIE-------------------------kiev (kaz)
KRE
KUS
KRN
LAN
LGD
LEI------------------------laigin (hol)
LEO------------------------leon (lua)
LIV------------------------livonia (lat)
LOU
MLL------------------------zaragossa (sar)
MEA
MES
MSK
MST------------------------mumhain (mun)
NRM------------------------normandy (nog)
NAF
PAM
PEU
PET------------------------pechenegs (sib)
PIC------------------------pictland (sco)
POD
POI
POK------------------------polotsk (per)
PRT
ROM
SEL------------------------seljuqs (tun)
SEV------------------------seville (spa)
SIL------------------------silves (sha)
SKA------------------------tavastaland (tek)
SLO------------------------slovakia (col)
SMO------------------------smolensk (ass)
SEI
STT
SWA------------------------swabia (wur)
SYR
TAN
THE
TOU------------------------toulouse (tau)
TOX
TYR
ULS------------------------ulaidh (tve)
VAL
VER
VOL------------------------volhynia (cyp)
YOR------------------------york (jai)
ZEE

GRAPHICS
at the moment, I have pilfered graphics from numerous sites and other mods. (new graphics were needed, as the pallete has changed, so the flags are fuzzy). I have also added new shields (I cant do flags) for Karelia, Volgo-Bulgars, Mordvinians, Slovenia and Lappland. Unfortunately many other graphics are either anachronistic or used because they 'look right' (ie. totally wrong- but hey better than the stars and bars in Eastern Europe right?)

DB FOLDER
Province file added: at present an exact copy of IFU.
trade file added: at present an exact copy of IFU.
goods file added: at present an exact copy of IFU.
infra file added: at present an exact copy of IFU.
land file added: at present an exact copy of IFU.
naval file added: at present an exact copy of IFU.
religion file added: at present an exact copy of IFU.
revolt.txt: IFU based, altered for tag realignment. dates altered, revolt provinces altered, corrected many errors and toned down Francia Occ., Francia Orient. and Lotharingian revolt provinces.
country.csv file: new 1.08 file, tag realignment

MONARCHS
MONARCH COUNTRY TAG-------------------------ID RANGE

(MONARCH FILES BASED ON IFU)
U00 aghlabids 1-21 (22-25 free)
SCO alba 26-50 (none free)
ANJ anjou 51-60 (61-75 free)
AQU aquitaine 76-97 (98-100 free)
BAY bavaria 101-129 (130-150 free) double block
BOH bohemia 151-171 (172-175 free)
U05 gascoigne 176-191 (192-200 free)
BRI brittany 201-224 (225 free)
BUL bulgarian empire 226-253 (254-275 free) double block
BUR kgd burgundy 276-285 (286-300 free)
BYZ byzantine empire 301-332 (333-350 free) double block
CMG champagne 351-361 (362-375 free)
U09 kievan rus 376-387 (388-400 free)
CRO croatia 401-428 (429-450 free) double block
U10 dal riada 451-486 (487-500 free) double block
HAB francia 501-506 (507-525 free)
GER francia orientalis 526-529 (530-550 free)
U15 greater novgorod 551-566 (567-575 free)
FUC francia occidentalis 576-585 (586-600 free)
KIE kiev 601-612 (613-625 free)
FRA france 626-631 (632-650 free)
FPR lotharingia 651-666 (667-675 free)
FRC franconia 676-692 (693-700 free)
ITA italy 701-713 (714-725 free)
MLO langobardia 726-749 (750 free)
PAP papal states 751-766 (767-775 free)
RUS the rus 776-787 (788-800 free)
LAT regnum teutonicorum 801-817 (818-825 free)
SAC saxonia 826-838 (839-850 free)
PIC pictland 851-862 (863-875 free)
KAZ kazar khanate 876-894 (895-900 free)
U26 wessex 901-924 (925 free)
(END OF IFU BASED FILES)

these only include monarch files which had more than one entry (those with only one entry were generally, Mad King James, General Wallenstein etc)

LEADERS
LEADER COUNTRY TAG----------------------ID RANGE
random leaders n\a
(note: added briton, pictish, early french, irish, saxon and roman names to randomleader file) - added for a more Dark-Agian feel

(IFU LEADER FILES)
BUL bulgaria 10000-10006
BYZ byzantine empire 10050
HAB francia 10100-10102
MLO langobardia 10150
(END OF IFU LEADER FILES)

that should do it for the now. A note on events - uses paradox randomevents 94,000-100,000. IFU events are being re-ideed at 100,001+, and new events should constitute numerical numbers over and above that.
yours
Ayeshteni

 

[Ayeshteni]

Inital release!!!

Announcing beta_1 of AJFIFU (basically my version of IFU)
download is available at my website (found in signature) and will also be available in the user made scenario upload sub-forum (when I can get the attachment to stick o )

This scenario is basically the IFU with tags realigned to be more logical and to be updated with the officialParadox 1.08 patch. The scenario represents history from 751 AD to 1150 AD. The reason for the release is to mainly provide a foundation for any changes and contributions anyone may wish to make, as this beta can then be used as a base. Any playtesting and bug listing will be appreciated as this project is far from complete (any comments make it in the IFU forum). Please note: I was not involved in the original IFU and therefore, this isnt really 'IFU' - but as the IFU seems to be dead, I dont think the creators will be too upset with me

INSTALLATION
To install, just extract the zipfile in your EU2 directory. All files are held in a folder called AJFIFU and so will not overwrite any files. I do not have an installation program so you will have to create your own shortcut on the desktop. This should be no problem. If you have any other moddir scenario already on your desktop just copy and paste back on desktop and rename it AJFIFU, enter properties and change 'target field' to "C:\Program Files\Paradox Entertainment\Europa Universalis 2\EU2.exe" C:\Program Files\Paradox Entertainment\Europa Universalis 2\AJFIFU or wherever your EU2 folder is located.

The download is just over 4 MB and includes all the major IFU files bar the Music (which while nice, makes the download huge and the music cannot be moddired).

Also included in AJFIFU_beta1 are the following.....

CONFIG FOLDER
The text.csv is 1.08 and is in English. However most IFU event descriptions have been put through an on-line translator from German into pseudo-English. Most of which can be understood, but are far from perfect.

DB FOLDER
Several changes to revolt.txt, I have added many IFU countries that did not have revolt entries and have started to integrate new countries that existed at this time. A Good example is around the Low Counties.

revolt.txt: IFU based, altered for tag realignment. dates altered, revolt provinces altered, corrected some errors.
country.csv file: new 1.08 file, tag realignment

added zangid revolter (1127AD-1150AD) -zan
added navarre revolter (824AD-1150AD) -nav
added hainault revolter (908AD-1150AD) -hau
added luxembourgh revolter (963AD-1150AD) -lux
added holland revolter (c.900AD-1150AD) -hll
added lower lorraine revolter (959AD-?) -lou
added aragon revolter (809AD-1150AD) -arg
added castillia revolter (1028AD-1150AD) -cas
added muslim valencia revolter (751AD+) -cat
added granada revolter (751AD+) -gra
added langobardia revolter (751AD+) -mlo
added poland revolter (751AD+) -pol
added portugal revolter (1093AD+) -por
added muslim toledo revolter (751AD+) -tau
added muslim murcia revolter (751AD+) -u34
added connachta revolter (751AD+) -con
added laigin revolter (751AD+) -lei
added leon revolter (910AD+) -leo
added mumhain revolter (751AD+) -mst
added muslim sevilla revolta (751AD+) -sev
added ulaidh revolter (751AD+) -uls
added almoravids revolter (1061AD+) -alm
added muslim zaragossa revolter (751AD+) - mll
added muslim badajoz revolter (751AD+) - u04
added umayyad revolter (751AD-1000AD) -ayy
added seljuk turk revolter (1030AD+) -sel
added qarakhanid revolter (970AD+) -qar
added saffarid revolter (861AD+) -tri
added ghaznavid revolter (977AD+) -u16
added cornwall revolter (751AD+) -cnw

...MONARCH FOLDER
Added a host of new monarch files for around 36 countries that were not in the original IFU, they are...
ROY mercia 926-936 (937-950 free)
U38 northumbria 951-958 (959-975 free)
ARG aragon 976-991 (992-1000 free)
CAS castille 1001-1006 (1007-1025 free)
LEO leon 1026-1046 (1047-1050 free)
ENG england 1051-1082 (1083-1100 free) double block
DAN denmark 1101-1117 (1118-1125 free)
EIR ireland 1126-1146 (1147-1150 free)
NAV navarre 1151-1166 (1167-1175 free)
NOR norway 1176-1190 (1191-1200 free)
POL poland 1201-1217 (1218-1225 free)
POR portugal 1226-1228 (1229-1250 free)
SWE sweden 1251-1264 (1265-1275 free)
NRM normandy 1275-1287 (1288-1300 free)
FLA flanders 1301-1314 (1315-1325 free)
TOU toulouse 1326-1338 (1339-1350 free)
LOR lorraine 1351-1368 (1369-1375 free)
ASU asturias 1376-1386 (1387-1400 free)
ABB abbassids 1401-1431 (1432-1450 free) double block
U08 al-andalus 1451-1452 (1453-1475 free)
AYY umayyads 1476-1499 (1500 free)
SHA sammanids 1501-1512 (1513-1525 free)
TRI saffarids 1526-1537 (1538-1550 free)
HAM hamdanids 1551-1556 (1557-1575 free)
FAT fatamids 1576-1587 (1588-1600 free)
EGY ikshidids 1601-1605 (1606-1625 free)
U34 mursiyah 1626-1631 (1632-1650 free)
U04 badajoz 1651-1654 (1655-1675 free)
CAT valencia 1676-1682 (1683-1700 free)
TAU toledo 1701-1704 (1705-1725 free)
GRA granada 1726-1729 (1730-1750 free)
MLL zaragossa 1751-1762 (1763-1775 free)
ALM almoravids 1776-1779 (1780-1800 free)
U16 ghaznavids 1801-1816 (1817-1825 free)
QAR qarakhanids 1826-1849 (1850 free)
SEL seljuqs 1851-1858 (1859-1875 free)
ZAN zangids 1876-1877 (1878-1900 free)

...LEADERS
Added a plethora of names of Celtic, Saxon, Early French and Briton names to the RandomLeaders file. The file also contains Finnish names and a host of others.

...EVENTS
Two new event files, introducing initial viking raids on the British coastline and basic events for the formation of Christian Spain. Naturally, future releases will contain considerably more event files, as well as proper translations of the IFU or to gradually take them out and replace.

GRAPHICS
Not my area of expertise. However, I have tried to provide shield sets for most countries in IFU and are therefore good quality 24-bit and the flags are now compatible with 1.08's new palette. I have shamelessly stolen many of the sets from various websites, requests and other mods. Therefore any set that anyone recognises as theirs and are unhappy about me blatently nicking it may contact me and I shall see about replacing it. I have personally made shields (but not flags) for Karelia, Lappland, Volgo-Bulgars, Brittany, Slovenia and Mordvinians, so you can blame me personnally for them being awful

yours
Ayeshteni

 

[Clarkie]

Sounds cool! There's 2 downloads on your site; ayeifu.zip and AJFIFU_beta1.zip. Which one should I be downloading? (ie which one is latest?) I saw the IFU ages ago but was deterred by the german only eventsand the generally broken links to download. Hopefully, you've finally made it possible for me to play it!

 

[Ayeshteni]

Sounds cool! There's 2 downloads on your site; ayeifu.zip and AJFIFU_beta1.zip. Which one should I be downloading? (ie which one is latest?) I saw the IFU ages ago but was deterred by the german only eventsand the generally broken links to download. Hopefully, you've finally made it possible for me to play it!

It is the AJFIFU_beta1.zip on 'click here to download' button.

I will remove the first download (it was only a text.csv and a few .inc files)
NOTE: the original events arent in perfect english (far from it), but it is better than having them in German (if you dont understand German).

If you have any comments or ideas please feel free to give them.
yours
Ayeshteni

 

[unmerged(255)]

Hi there, looks really promising. I've dl'd the file from your website but in all honesty it's been ages since I last played EU2 and I can't get the mod to work

The folder AJFIFU is created, but there's no exe file in it, and running the regular EU2.exe either gives me no scenario options or when I move the scenario over, I get a complete freeze (Im probably doing something terribly wrong, but would appreciate a simple walkthrough )

edit: running the eu2.exe file from within the AFJIFU dir (copied it there) gives an "---excel file not found" error

edit2: nevermind, got it to work...I apparently did not have 1.08 installed Ottomans, among others, seem selectable however--and many European nations have odd cultures. Let me know if you need any help clearing those up after my finals are over on the 22nd

 

[Ayeshteni]

Hi there, looks really promising. I've dl'd the file from your website but in all honesty it's been ages since I last played EU2 and I can't get the mod to work

The folder AJFIFU is created, but there's no exe file in it, and running the regular EU2.exe either gives me no scenario options or when I move the scenario over, I get a complete freeze (Im probably doing something terribly wrong, but would appreciate a simple walkthrough )

edit: running the eu2.exe file from within the AFJIFU dir (copied it there) gives an "---excel file not found" error

edit2: nevermind, got it to work...I apparently did not have 1.08 installed Ottomans, among others, seem selectable however--and many European nations have odd cultures. Let me know if you need any help clearing those up after my finals are over on the 22nd

hmm, glad you could get it to work

As for the ottoman selectable and odd cultures, i am at a loss it should work perfectly. Have you installed properly?...

INSTALLATION
To install, just extract the zipfile in your EU2 directory. All files are held in a folder called AJFIFU and so will not overwrite any files. I do not have an installation program so you will have to create your own shortcut on the desktop. This should be no problem. If you have any other moddir scenario already on your desktop just copy and paste back on desktop and rename it AJFIFU, enter properties and change 'target field' to "C:\Program Files\Paradox Entertainment\Europa Universalis 2\EU2.exe" C:\Program Files\Paradox Entertainment\Europa Universalis 2\AJFIFU or wherever your EU2 folder is located.

The game should read the country names and culture setup from the text.csv found in the AJFIFU config folder and not the vanilla GC.

But thanks for post, will check my end to see if problem is here. Oh and one more important thing which I failed to mention...


This scenario needs the latest version of montezumas Unlimited Time patch to work, as the starting date is 751AD.

yours
Ayeshteni

 

[Kosh]

A very, very interesting mod
Thanks Ayeshteni!
I´ll look forward for new released to get a even better mod!

 

[unmerged(8606)]

Great work, Ayeshteni ! Do you need some help (monarchs, leaders)? I could give you some information about the counties of Barcelona and Roussillon, which could appear around 900. If you need the info, just tell me ;-)

 

[unmerged(11086)]

I'd be willing to help. Although I don't know much about modding. On the plus side though, I am a native German speaker.

Ayeshteni, so what would be a good place to start?

 

[Ayeshteni]

Great work, Ayeshteni ! Do you need some help (monarchs, leaders)? I could give you some information about the counties of Barcelona and Roussillon, which could appear around 900. If you need the info, just tell me ;-)

Thanks
Any information you can provide will be extremely helpful.

yours
Ayeshteni

 

[Ayeshteni]

I'd be willing to help. Although I don't know much about modding. On the plus side though, I am a native German speaker.

Ayeshteni, so what would be a good place to start?

If you are willing, then translations of the IFU event descriptions from German into English would be EXTREEEEEEMLY helpful, as all I have done so far is to run them through an online translator and they are clunky at best.

Though it would be really hard work to do. If you are really interested then just say and I will start another thread and post some event descriptions in original IFU German for you (or any other German speakers) to translate.

Thanks
yours
Ayeshteni

 

[unmerged(11086)]

Well I could translate some, but from reading through the really old threads here, that is not a one man job. but I could get started, just post some (maybe the really important ones first...)

I played throught the mod a little bit, what's that thing with Jewish states? seems odd. also, did the "German founding fathers" ever change techgroups, religious modifiers etc?

 

[Kasperus]

Nice to see this mod alive again I see you already implemented a few interesting changes as well, especially regarding the western slavs. If you wish I could give you a bit feedback and idea's I have on that territory (some of it might change things a bit drastically so be warned ), regarding setups, monarchs, leaders and town-names... While asking already then, is it your intention to follow history on all hard facts only or would you be open to suggestions out of the more semi-legendary or even outright hypothetical kind of history-writing for the western slavs (mostly medieval chronicles I happened just to study a bit)? I could put some suggestion and idea's then during the weekend when I'm done with some MES stuff I have yet to submit...

I seem to recognize a few MES shields as well, sometimes on very unexpected places... :rofl: I would love to help you get better one's but that will be a hell of a job to do I don't think I would be able to shortly....

And no plans for the Indian continent? I know IFU didn't had India either but...? Or you have no religion left for them?

 

[Ayeshteni]

Well I could translate some, but from reading through the really old threads here, that is not a one man job. but I could get started, just post some (maybe the really important ones first...)

hehe, tell me about it. I will open a new thread for translations then. And I promise only to post a couple at a time

EDIT: oops, I dont have the events in German anymore. o . I will download the IFU again to get the text.csv (unless anyone has it and can email it to me at ayeshteni2@hotmail.com - save me downloading 20MB). At any rate when I get it, I will start up a translation thread.

I played throught the mod a little bit, what's that thing with Jewish states? seems odd. also, did the "German founding fathers" ever change techgroups, religious modifiers etc?

The Khazar Khanate apeared to be 'jewish' in character, and I have heard something along those lines as well, so this is why it is so in the original IFU.

There have been changes to techgroups and (I beleive) religious modifiers. The Land Tech progression has been slowed down somewhat, this I know. The actual Tech names (Late Classical, Early Dark Ages etc) are mine as they were not changed in the original (however, I am not happy with the names, so will be altering them again later).

yours
Ayeshteni

 

[Ayeshteni]

Nice to see this mod alive again I see you already implemented a few interesting changes as well, especially regarding the western slavs. If you wish I could give you a bit feedback and idea's I have on that territory (some of it might change things a bit drastically so be warned ), regarding setups, monarchs, leaders and town-names... While asking already then, is it your intention to follow history on all hard facts only or would you be open to suggestions out of the more semi-legendary or even outright hypothetical kind of history-writing for the western slavs (mostly medieval chronicles I happened just to study a bit)? I could put some suggestion and idea's then during the weekend when I'm done with some MES stuff I have yet to submit...

I have to admit, that I know very little about this particular area so any information will be appreciated (even just a few monarch names). At the moment I wish to get the framework of the regions in place so that there are historical events for those places, rather than what-ifs. However, once there are some historical events then alternative branches could always be introduced . As for legends an such, if it impacted on the slavs at the time.....why not!

I seem to recognize a few MES shields as well, sometimes on very unexpected places... :rofl: I would love to help you get better one's but that will be a hell of a job to do I don't think I would be able to shortly....

As I said, I have stolen from all-over. I took a few MES that had a particular 'feel' (pagan/tribal etc) where I couldnt find any source files for those places (as I said, the East isn't my particular field). But I mainly wanted graphics that were not 'Modena in Russia' 'USA in Carpathians' etc, like the original IFU.

And no plans for the Indian continent? I know IFU didn't had India either but...? Or you have no religion left for them?

I want to expand into Northern India at least, but it may be a problem, likewise with Ethiopia...

CATHOLIC;Catholic-Christian;;;;;;;;;;2234
PROTESTANT;Orthodox;;;;;;;;;;2235
ORTHODOX;Jewish;;;;;;;;;;2236
SUNNI;Sunni;;;;;;;;;;2237
SHIITE;Shiite;;;;;;;;;;2238
PAGAN;Pagan;;;;;;;;;;2239
REFORMED;Reformed;;;;;;;;;;2240
CREFCATHOLIC;Asiatic;;;;;;;;;;2241
MOSLEM;Moslems;;;;;;;;;;2242
CHRISTIAN;Christian;;;;;;;;;;2243
KONFUCIAN;Asiatic;;;;;;;;;;2244
BUDDHIST;Pagan;;;;;;;;;;2245
HINDU;Slavic;;;;;;;;;;2246

There is only Reformed and Pagan left. Reformed will cause problems with the other 'christians' while Pagan might do, but will be easy to convert. Hmmm, will think about this a bit.
Thanks for the interest
yours
Ayeshteni

 

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I want to expand into Northern India at least, but it may be a problem, likewise with Ethiopia...

CATHOLIC;Catholic-Christian;;;;;;;;;;2234
PROTESTANT;Orthodox;;;;;;;;;;2235
ORTHODOX;Jewish;;;;;;;;;;2236
SUNNI;Sunni;;;;;;;;;;2237
SHIITE;Shiite;;;;;;;;;;2238
PAGAN;Pagan;;;;;;;;;;2239
REFORMED;Reformed;;;;;;;;;;2240
CREFCATHOLIC;Asiatic;;;;;;;;;;2241
MOSLEM;Moslems;;;;;;;;;;2242
CHRISTIAN;Christian;;;;;;;;;;2243
KONFUCIAN;Asiatic;;;;;;;;;;2244
BUDDHIST;Pagan;;;;;;;;;;2245
HINDU;Slavic;;;;;;;;;;2246

There is only Reformed and Pagan left. Reformed will cause problems with the other 'christians' while Pagan might do, but will be easy to convert. Hmmm, will think about this a bit.
Thanks for the interest
yours
Ayeshteni

so there is two Asiatic? I guess I don't understand...

I ran a hands-off game yesterday and was surprised how stable the game was. overall, not much territory changed hands in the first 100years (except Langobardia went nuts on the balkans). I like that there is so many tiny cultures, it would make it harder to control a bigger empire. I am definitely for including alternate histories, mythical events etc (how about adapting some of the vinland stuff for example), but I agree that there should be a historical framework first.

 

[Kasperus]

I have to admit, that I know very little about this particular area so any information will be appreciated (even just a few monarch names). At the moment I wish to get the framework of the regions in place so that there are historical events for those places, rather than what-ifs. However, once there are some historical events then alternative branches could always be introduced . As for legends an such, if it impacted on the slavs at the time.....why not!

Yes, well, to be more spcific there are the following levels of information regarding Slavic west:
1. (almost) Certain information (meaning based on written contemporary information - mostly German chronicles. Problematically enough most of these tend to ignore the Slavs till at least ~850 (more precisely 850 for Bohemia/Moravia, Polabian Slavs have 'history' from ~930 and Poles since 963).
2. Oral tradition. Till ~1950 historians ignored this kind of sources which however seems to be quite valuable in researching history of likes Africa and American Indians. Also Scandinavians and Slavs have however sources of oral tradition which vhistorians (in various degree) start to appreciate (already the 3 rulers before Mieszko I you included are based on oral tradition only, Piast (corr. spelling of Piastus) is btw wrong as he was certainly not a ruler, only the 'father of the dynasty')
3. High-Medieval chronicles, written usually in 12th century and later which tended to be bombastique and 'invent' parts of history when they could not come with one. So is the first Polish chronicle from ~1200 full of a great Polish kings who fought with Romans, Persians and even Alexander the Great of Macedon. Although by itself thus rather certainly bs one can for example still try to consider the used names of rulers as possibly authentic
4. Legends. There are quite a few, not seldom quite similar even (all western and eastern slavs know the Lech, Cech and Rus legend - free brothers who started the states of Poland, Czechs and Russia; Also both Bohemia and Poland have a similar legend of Krakus and his river-jumping daughter). Legends are a part of oral tradition and were greatfully accepted as parts of the medieval chronicles. Basically these are more often not really believable but as they say - every legend contains a core of truth

So what I mean with 'hypothetical stuff' is rather a restoration of history based on not-so-solid resources (as they are lacking) - iow say lists of monarchs and cities, and event idea's based thus on oral tradition, legends and somewhat these medieval chronicles. Not even alternative stuff (or that only if you mean alternative for nothing )

I would say most stuff I can suggest to you regards Poland, Bohemia and 'German' Slavs... I can perhaps best start later a thread on it and pomp some info and links there - this forum is here for that after all

 

[Ayeshteni]

so there is two Asiatic? I guess I don't understand...

I ran a hands-off game yesterday and was surprised how stable the game was. overall, not much territory changed hands in the first 100years (except Langobardia went nuts on the balkans). I like that there is so many tiny cultures, it would make it harder to control a bigger empire. I am definitely for including alternate histories, mythical events etc (how about adapting some of the vinland stuff for example), but I agree that there should be a historical framework first.

Oh...I missed that thanks, will make sure all asiatics use the same one and earmark the other for later use. Thanks for pointing it out (it is amazing how you can miss the obvious )

It is a stable game. I reduced the revolt risks to Francia, as rebels were rampaging and the provinces were joining Muslim Spain (all the way to the North Sea in fact).

As to the cultures, yeah I like that too, however, I am thinking of events that will start turning them to to homoginised ones as the scenario progresses (like what has been done with the Rus) into 'state-ish' cultures. I am still trying to think how to move the magyars from the don region into hungary for instance!!!

yours
Ayeshteni

 

[Ayeshteni]

So what I mean with 'hypothetical stuff' is rather a restoration of history based on not-so-solid resources (as they are lacking) - iow say lists of monarchs and cities, and event idea's based thus on oral tradition, legends and somewhat these medieval chronicles. Not even alternative stuff (or that only if you mean alternative for nothing )

I would say most stuff I can suggest to you regards Poland, Bohemia and 'German' Slavs... I can perhaps best start later a thread on it and pomp some info and links there - this forum is here for that after all

hehe, yes I agree. And yes again, that would be good.
yours
Ayeshteni

 

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As to the cultures, yeah I like that too, however, I am thinking of events that will start turning them to to homoginised ones as the scenario progresses (like what has been done with the Rus) into 'state-ish' cultures. I am still trying to think how to move the magyars from the don region into hungary for instance!!!

yours
Ayeshteni

homogenising sounds good. as far as tribes moving etc goes, I think we have to be careful not to be to deterministic. but then on the other hand it should still somewhat resemble history. I could picture events, where you get a CB against a country (maybe cores+put that country on the hit list for the AI), where that tribe moved. when you secure a certain province in a war, you get a choice of changing that new province to state culture (+some other goodies) but at the same time secede the province that tribe historically left. then have a B choice to keep the status quo. this would make the AI "move" most of the time, but the problem will probably be if it is able to win that initial war. I wouldn't like if for example the magyars get Hungary simply through events without doing anything for it. Thinking about it, if there are cases where provinces were obtained through treaties only, it would be okay to do that.

regarding mythical events, they should definitely be included. I would suggest stating the "mythical character" in the event text, that adds to the educational value of EUII