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I have heard of this before but have never seen it in one of my games. In the middle of the one hundred years war England claims defender of the faith, builds over 200 thousand cavalry and makes 5 FAA's. I load up as them and find they have over 100 million ducats. Is there anyway to prevent this from happening? Even editing stuff out poor France took a beating and went bankrupt 3 times trying to fend them off before I knew what was going on.
 

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R3lic said:
I have heard of this before but have never seen it in one of my games. In the middle of the one hundred years war England claims defender of the faith, builds over 200 thousand cavalry and makes 5 FAA's. I load up as them and find they have over 100 million ducats. Is there anyway to prevent this from happening? Even editing stuff out poor France took a beating and went bankrupt 3 times trying to fend them off before I knew what was going on.
that is an eu2 engine issue, that i THINK yoda is looking into right now(i had same issues and still do, in agceep). i suspect this is one of the last major "bugs"( the ony one MYSELF have noticed at least, sort of speak) to be ironed out.already mentioned it the in agceep forum.
 

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I would hope that Yoda and co can solve this problem then.

sorry i meant to say i have this issue in agceep as WELL, but not ONLY, is an ORIGINAL eu2 bug from what i understand( happens as well in vanilla).
 

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R3lic, how often do you save? Because it would be useful for us to get a save from just before the problem occurred, especially if the problem happens again if we play it.
 

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Yes, there is a reason why this is one of the last major "bugs". Not easy to catch... but I'm pretty sure this is an overflow somewhere in AI treasury calculation and a savegame could be very helpful but maybe not sufficient.
 
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I have saved over it already and I did fix all the issues it caused I was just curious if anyone knew why it happened. But if Yoda does not know then it is safe to say no one does :(
 

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Eh... This makes me remember of the famous loan exploit...
 

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I have never noticed this, does this happen alot?
 

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Monkii-sama said:
I have never noticed this, does this happen alot?
Fortunately (or unfortunately), no.
 

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What is the supposedly famous "loan exploit?"
 

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Mats_SX said:
I *think* it is what a player would use to gain a Casus Belli against an AI. You would offer them a loan, they would accept, and when it's time to pay back, they refuse, and you get your CB.

Ah, I've heard that before. Okay, thanks. :)
 

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Mats_SX said:
I *think* it is what a player would use to gain a Casus Belli against an AI. You would offer them a loan, they would accept, and when it's time to pay back, they refuse, and you get your CB.
I don't think that's what is meant, since it's relatively unknown/poorly understood. I think the reference is to loansharking, which it's likely only the real oldbies (more so than me, certainly ;)) are familiar with. It used to be perfectly feasible to loan AI countries large sums of money and finance your country with the interest. That's as much as I know for sure. Now for some speculation: I presume you start off by scraping together some cash and giving long-term loans for high interest rates, timed to come due in January or February, so AI countries can pay them back with their census taxes (in my experience using loans for CBs AIs will pay back loans if they can - which is sometimes annoying ;)). Another possibility would be giving the AI a second loan just as the first one is due to be returned, so they have cash to give back to you.

So it's all pretty sneaky and exploitative. You see why God doesn't like usury? He even tweaked the code to make loaning cash harder to do ;)