Airplanes for... what???

[Darkrenown]

Built in an airplane factory?

Factories just represent the general type of industry in the area, eg, planes = the fancy high tech gadgets rich people want and cement factories make building materials etc.

 

[Darkrenown]

If the designers wanted to signify that, then they should have called the category "Modern Luxury Goods" instead of "Airplanes".

If people can't see factories are an abstraction then they'll need more help than having them renamed. A level 1 factory can hold 500,000 people, surely everyone can see that building a factory in Vic is setting up the primary industry type in an area rather than building one little facotry.

Anyway, if it was called "Modern Luxury Goods" people would be saying "We should be able to build airplanes!"

They are absracted into Modern Luxury Goods factories.

"Well then, they should be called Airplane factories!"

 

[Darkrenown]

Not all goods are appropriately regarded as abstractions. What could the lumber mill possibly be abstracting?

Well it's still abstracting an entire area's industry, rather than one factory. Then you'd got the fact that there are dozens of different types of types of wood and ways to treat them for different purposes.

Paper doesn't represent the abstraction of what it takes educationally and materially to create craftsmen and clerks; if it were, then you wouldn't be able to buy it on the market.

Consultants!

No matter how one tries, it's gonna require major intellectual gymnastics to try and claim that the steel or cement plants, or the automobile manufactury, are abstractions. (If they wanted to simulate construction materials, why are there two different factory types?)

Steel is steel, of course there is a big industrial process for making it, it's not just mixing iron and coal in a pot, and it can't be lumped into construction materials since it's needed for ships, artiliery and railroad etc. Cement covers the rest. Automobile factories make cars, motorbikes, trucks, tractors and engines for tanks etc.

Since the discovery of airplanes actually has specific benefits for detection for several ship classes, it's hard to believe that they don't represent actual, real-world airplanes.

Airplanes are indeed included under luxuary modern goods.

 

[Darkrenown]

NO, I don't want to "abstract" the factories, calling them "bycicles" or so... this is not a good idea, because the planes are then excluded from the game= Unhistorical

Tough cookies. You need to accept some things are abstractions since there's no way to model the entire world in great detail. Anyway, there's no need to exclude plans, just accept that the airplane factory doesn't just glue machine parts and electric goods together to make planes.

NO, the game needs more fun and nearly nobody is coformed with the planes like now=boring

I have no idea what this means.

so add them to armies

Why? The light bombing they could do doesn't show up in a game of this scale and you can already see all troop movement in the next province, not to mention you can just turn fog of war off.

and please don't discuss about stupid abstractions, if I would want abstractions I'd play role-playing games, not historical simulations or so, OK? If you want abstractions and imaginations, go to "Dungeons&Dragons" forums...

The entire game is an abstraction!