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I've been wondering this too. I had a good look at missions during the last two streams and didn't see anything. My guess is from a gameplay perspective; after the initial surprise attack- there wasn't much of it so is it really necessary?
 

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I think it was mentioned in a Dev diary or WWW answer session that if you attack airbases, some enemy planes will be destroyed.
 
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Can you attack air bases and destroy enemy aircraft before they get off the ground?
I've been wondering this too. I had a good look at missions during the last two streams and didn't see anything. My guess is from a gameplay perspective; after the initial surprise attack- there wasn't much of it so is it really necessary?
Yes planes get destroyed if you bomb the air bases.

Same with port strike with ships of course.
 
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Yes planes get destroyed if you bomb the air bases.

Same with port strike with ships of course.
Thanks. Is it a specific mission, or rolled into air superiority?
 

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Yes planes get destroyed if you bomb the air bases.
Yet there is no air base bombing mission available for TAC, just:
- close air support, assist divisions in ground combat
- strategic bombing, bomb enemy buildings, infrastructure and industry
- port strike, drop bombs and torpedoes on the enemy fleets in ports

It's a bit of a leap to assume that buildings will include air bases, and that means if planes are on the ground at the base they will be destroyed. The game engine certainly doesn't track the position of individual planes, to know what is on the ground or in the air at any time, nor does it really track when the bombing missions occurs. It's all abstracted as daytime or night-time.

Neither CAS nor fighters can even attack buildings.
 
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Yet there is no air base bombing mission available for TAC, just:
- close air support, assist divisions in ground combat
- strategic bombing, bomb enemy buildings, infrastructure and industry
- port strike, drop bombs and torpedoes on the enemy fleets in ports

It's a bit of a leap to assume that buildings will include air bases, and that means if planes are on the ground at the base they will be destroyed. The game engine certainly doesn't track the position of individual planes, to know what is on the ground or in the air at any time, nor does it really track when the bombing missions occurs. It's all abstracted as daytime or night-time.

Neither CAS nor fighters can even attack buildings.
Devs did say that planes will be destroyed if you bomb the airbases. strategic bombing will target, well, strategic target which include airbases aswell. If i recall correctly daniel even said that during the Yapan campaign at some point.

Thanks. Is it a specific mission, or rolled into air superiority?
its not an seperate mission. Strategic bombing will target airbases aswell afaik.
 
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Devs did say that planes will be destroyed if you bomb the airbases. strategic bombing will target, well, strategic target which include airbases aswell. If i recall correctly daniel even said that during the Yapan campaign at some point.


its not an seperate mission. Strategic bombing will target airbases aswell.

That's really helpful, thanks.

So it sounds like at present we cannot tell out Tacs to focus on airfields? As they will randomly bomb them and other buildings on Strat missions?
 

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Doesn't strategic bombing hit factories (of all types) and infrastructure, while tactical bombing hits troops, infrastructure and all tactical building types...that is radar, airfields and fortifications? Aircraft in an airfield can be hit as can ships in a port.
 

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Doesn't strategic bombing hit factories (of all types) and infrastructure, while tactical bombing hits troops, infrastructure and all tactical building types...that is radar, airfields and fortifications? Aircraft in an airfield can be hit as can ships in a port.

Tactical bombers don't have mission types of their own. They're a flexible plane type that can fly both CAS and strategic bombing missions (apart from nuclear bombing I guess), but are somewhat worse at each than their dedicated counterparts (and lack the carrier variant available for CAS planes). I guess if anything targets airfields, it's strategic bombing.
 

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its not an seperate mission. Strategic bombing will target airbases aswell.

This is, imho, by far too oversimplificated. When you want to destroy enemy airbases, you will have to destroy factories and infrastructure on an even basis as well? Sounds like HoI4 will force players to make the same misstake Göring did in 1940; striking airfields will be no valid strategical option any longer.
 
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This is, imho, by far too oversimplificated. When you want to destroy enemy airbases, you will have to destroy factories and infrastructure on an even basis as well? Sounds like HoI4 will force players to make the same misstake Göring did in 1940; striking airfields will be no valid strategical option any longer.
It would be sufficient if we could set high-priority targets like harbors and airfields for example. Adding an option to straight up go for airfields and of course the planes stationed there just like with port strike would be the best solution of course.

Overall, if they have an specific port-strike mission to, well, attack ports, why not add one for airbases aswell? If something like that is in, then we havent seen it yet, atleast there is no mission for planes for that in the current built they are showing.
 
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This is, imho, by far too oversimplificated. When you want to destroy enemy airbases, you will have to destroy factories and infrastructure on an even basis as well? Sounds like HoI4 will force players to make the same misstake Göring did in 1940; striking airfields will be no valid strategical option any longer.

Well, you want to take out infrastructure and factories when preparing for invasion since leaving them intact means the damage to the military targets gets easily repaired.