AI ursurped my Duchy! How?

[TobiTobsen]

Hi there people!

I'm a bit irritated right now. I'm just trying to form the kingdom of Andalusia, starting from the duchy of Cadiz and I'm doing pretty well, always preying on my neighbours when they start another war. I already have the duchies/emirates of Seville and Badajoz and just conquered the last county for the duchy of Granada when something strange happend:

I ursurped the title, gave my courtiers the landed titles and one of them the duchy. Two months later I suddenly get the message that the Almoravid Sultan ursurped the title of Duke of Granada. I take a look and confirm that he controls the duchy and all the counts in it and my brother, the former Duke of Granada, is now holding a simple barony in Granada and is the vassal of the Sultan too!

How did he do it? He wasn't in control of 50% of the counties. He owned nothing in the duchy. I'm confused how he was able to take 1/3 of my holdings and making my counts and brother his vassal, without fulfilling any criteria that would allow him just that? Am I forgetting a game mechanic?

 

[WeissRaben]

Hi there people!

I'm a bit irritated right now. I'm just trying to form the kingdom of Andalusia, starting from the duchy of Cadiz and I'm doing pretty well, always preying on my neighbours when they start another war. I already have the duchies/emirates of Seville and Badajoz and just conquered the last county for the duchy of Granada when something strange happend:

I ursurped the title, gave my courtiers the landed titles and one of them the duchy. Two months later I suddenly get the message that the Almoravid Sultan ursurped the title of Duke of Granada. I take a look and confirm that he controls the duchy and all the counts in it and my brother, the former Duke of Granada, is now holding a simple barony in Granada and is the vassal of the Sultan too!

How did he do it? He wasn't in control of 50% of the counties. He owned nothing in the duchy. I'm confused how he was able to take 1/3 of my holdings and making my counts and brother his vassal, without fulfilling any criteria that would allow him just that? Am I forgetting a game mechanic?

Are you sure that the warning "You risk losing provinces to external inheritance" wasn't on? Because it seems to me like an inheritance gone wrong (or right, on the Almoravid side).

 

[TobiTobsen]

Are you sure that the warning "You risk losing provinces to external inheritance" wasn't on? Because it seems to me like an inheritance gone wrong (or right, on the Almoravid side).

I doublechecked my savegame. Nothing indicates that I will lose the Duchy. My Brother is still alive, has a heir and I don't get any pop ups that anything is fishy.

 

[Dracko81]

Faction to put another person as the duke. That person was the Almoravid Sultan.

 

[TobiTobsen]

Faction to put another person as the duke. That person was the Almoravid Sultan.

Two ingame months after I took over? Somebody must have had a grudge against me :blink:

Edit: Shouldn't I get a warning if such a faction is forming in my demesne?

 

[Dracko81]

It was your realm, not you demense. Also if the duke you put there had no troops to be raised he obviously would surrender to a faction before the war begins.

You could just kill everyone who has claims on titles before handing them out.

That was just one suggestion, and my not of been what happened. Without see the actual game it is hard to know why things happen exactly.

 

[Zireael]

Well, I agree that there should be a warning that there is a faction in your realm.