AI still does suicide naval invasions

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PnGuin

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Are you saying this is still happening in 1.4? I was really hoping this would be fixed.
 

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This has been a problem since release. The French and the British just love throwing their men to death in the shores of northern Germany.
it's not only naval invasions. AI just likes to suicide at sea in general
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I realy realy realy realy realy want a button to forbid an army to use the sea for travel
 

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it's not only naval invasions. AI just likes to suicide at sea in general

I realy realy realy realy realy want a button to forbid an army to use the sea for travel
Steelvolt said it was too difficult/complicated to fix.

And yes, something like the strategic redeployment button would be nice but that'll probably be a paid feature two dlcs from now. To be released in June of 2018 of course.
 

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Steelvolt said it was too difficult/complicated to fix.
just give me the damned button then, i ahte wasting manpower like this, for major nation a devision or 2 suiciding at sea isn't big, but when you're playing as a nation that is starved for manpower from the beginning? this very much removes the fun of it and instead makes it frustrating. I do not want to babysit a garryson 24/7 just so it doesn't suicide.
The devision in question didn't even need to move!
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I've only just started a Hungarian campaign and I've already seen 5 of these naval invasions into Germany and it's only 1939 :( It seems that absolutely nothing has changed in that department since the last patch. Very frustrating if that is the case.
 

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Paradox, just lock naval invasion tech to zero for everyone not Japan until 1941 or something. Or require the AI to be at war with someone before it is allowed to research the first tier of naval invasion, and make the research take a long, long time.

ENG AND FRA spamming massive Normandy style invasions in 1939 (to the point where they have them queued in the battleplanner before Ww2 starts) is insanity, pure and simple. Just kill the AIs ability to do it until 1941.