AI still can't see when it's beat

[mgoetze]

War Score: +53
Relative Strength of Alliances: +9
Golden Horde is making gains: +6
Shan war exhaustion: +1

Current peace offer: -40
Lenght of war: -21
Shan holds Hsenwi: -5
Shan military strength: -4

That -4 is from having 8000 infantry hidden somewhere in China, where they have military access. What good are 8k infantry going to do against 150k troops that are 4 tech levels ahead? It's quite ridiculous to what lengths the AI will go to encourage carpet sieging.

 

[yahiko]

I partially agree.
Battles should weigh much more in the War Score.
However, in your case, with a WS of +53, you still have the chance to make a peace.

 

[StatikShocker]

well you are trying to demand 40 war score worth of stuff and the war just started. I hate relative strength of alliances, that is usually what gets me. If your alliance is so strong then come beat me. Oh you can't? then stop using it against me at the peace table.

 

[grommile]

well you are trying to demand 40 war score worth of stuff and the war just started.

"-21 length of war" is not "just started", it's nineteen months in.

 

[StatikShocker]

"-21 length of war" is not "just started", it's nineteen months in.

well we can debate how length of war is scaled, but as far as the game is concerned as is, that war just started.

 

[mgoetze]

I can't recall ever seeing much lower modifiers for length of war, so if the AI considers this "just started", that's a problem. It sure didn't feel like just started to me, as I'd occupied almost the entire Oirat Horde, in that area of the map where it takes 2 months to move 1 province...

 

[grommile]

I can't recall ever seeing much lower modifiers for length of war,

I can.

I've had that modifier go positive.

 

[aitaituo]

I recently fought Venice as Byzantium. I sank their fleet in three battles, which included 8k troops, defeated Naxos' army, and was sieging Naxos, Crete, and Corfu, who had no army due to a rebel problem, and was blockading all of their provinces. I was kicking their butt and hadn't taken so much as a scratch.

"-19 Venice is making gains"

 

[mgoetze]

I recently fought Venice as Byzantium. I sank their fleet in three battles, which included 8k troops, defeated Naxos' army, and was sieging Naxos, Crete, and Corfu, who had no army due to a rebel problem, and was blockading all of their provinces. I was kicking their butt and hadn't taken so much as a scratch.

"-19 Venice is making gains"

So their warscore at the beginning of the month was higher than their warscore at the beginning of the previous month. If you really did well this month, just wait until the beginning of next month...

 

[aitaituo]

So their warscore at the beginning of the month was higher than their warscore at the beginning of the previous month. If you really did well this month, just wait until the beginning of next month...

The next month it went to -16. By the end of the war it was finally +3, even though they had lost literally every battle and I had occupied most of their provinces and their fleet was 3 galleys they had built in Venice and kept there the whole war. Their warscore was consistently going down.