AI should get Break Truce penalty just like players do...

[cleef]

Title.

I can understand some of the cheats the AI is allowed but this is pathetic... Just as how the AI can get peasants wars, weak heirs, regency, they should also get the stability drop for breaking truce.

 

[JamesT234]

I've never seen the AI break truce. I believe it's programmed not to.

 

[Wizzington]

They get the penalty, they just don't actually break truces.

 

[Imgran]

Do you have an example of them not getting this penalty? As opposed to getting this penalty and instantly using hoarded MP to get out of it?

 

[Rambo Panda]

FYI joining a defensive war against you when they have a truce is not breaking the treaty. You can't just pick off their allies and expect them to sit out.

 

[Outrider]

I'm going to guess that the OP didn't realize v1.6 made it so that defensive CTA bypass truces and don't count as "truce breaks".

 

[Wizzington]

I'm going to guess that the OP didn't realize v1.6 made it so that defensive CTA bypass truces and don't count as "truce breaks".

Defensive CTAs always bypassed truces, AI was just miscalculating them as truce breaks.

 

[brifbates]

I'm going to guess that the OP didn't realize v1.6 made it so that defensive CTA bypass truces and don't count as "truce breaks".

The rule on defensive calls bypassing truces didn't change, it has always been the case that answering defensive calls doesn't trigger a truce breaker penalty. What changed is the ai was reminded of the fact after somehow forgetting it earlier in the game's development.

edit: Wizemud

 

[Outrider]

Defensive CTAs always bypassed truces, AI was just miscalculating them as truce breaks.

I am a major derp then :-D

 

[JamesT234]

Title.

I can understand some of the cheats the AI is allowed but this is pathetic... Just as how the AI can get peasants wars, weak heirs, regency, they should also get the stability drop for breaking truce.

Did you mean the AI "can't" get peasants wars, et al? I mean they can and do. I see the pop ups all the time. And they often get weak heirs and regencies as well. Unless you're talking about lucky nations. In which case, yes that is some cheating BS. As is the ability for the AI to ignore naval attrition. Annoying to have Great Britain roll their whole navy to come attack me in the Black Sea (I sunk that shiz anyways with my mighty galley fleet).

 

[cleef]

Indeed I did not know that joining defensive wars does not count.

Fail.

 

[canuckinmontrea]

Did you mean the AI "can't" get peasants wars, et al? I mean they can and do. I see the pop ups all the time. And they often get weak heirs and regencies as well. Unless you're talking about lucky nations. In which case, yes that is some cheating BS. As is the ability for the AI to ignore naval attrition. Annoying to have Great Britain roll their whole navy to come attack me in the Black Sea (I sunk that shiz anyways with my mighty galley fleet).

I don't mind the AI Naval Attrition cheat.

I wish they could figure out how to program the AI to deal with attrition, but it's better that they actually have a navy than letting the AI sail around with 35% boats all the time.

Since they can't figure out how to make the AI smarter about it, the zero attrition mechanic works for me.

 

[Wizzington]

I don't mind the AI Naval Attrition cheat.

I wish they could figure out how to program the AI to deal with attrition, but it's better that they actually have a navy than letting the AI sail around with 35% boats all the time.

Since they can't figure out how to make the AI smarter about it, the zero attrition mechanic works for me.

It's not that we can't figure it out, it's that it'd require a lot of work and testing, and there are other, higher priority areas that need work. I plan to get to it eventually.

 

[CrabHelmet]

It's not that we can't figure it out, it's that it'd require a lot of work and testing, and there are other, higher priority areas that need work. I plan to get to it eventually.

Can the current priority be naval AI? It seems like a popular choice around the forums for improvement. Particularly how to build, use and sustain transports, and also how to block/pass through straits.

 

[Wizzington]

Can the current priority be naval AI? It seems like a popular choice around the forums for improvement.

Yeah, it's a current high priority area, especially AI sea transport of troops.

 

[lordelenath]

Yeah, it's a current high priority area, especially AI sea transport of troops.

I can see the new threads emerging already: NERF ENGLAND!!!11

 

[CrabHelmet]

Yeah, it's a current high priority area, especially AI sea transport of troops.

Hooray! My hope is that we'll finally see a relevant England/GB/insert naval power here.

 

[cleef]

Art of War is gonna get us some new fancy naval management features and stuff so I'm sure they're going to improve and add a few navy-related things...

 

[DDRJake]

It's not that we can't figure it out, it's that it'd require a lot of work and testing, and there are other, higher priority areas that need work. I plan to get to it eventually.

I'd appreciate it if they didn't maintain long-term blockades in provinces far away from their supply range though.

 

[V1ribus]

I'd appreciate if they didn't maintain long-term blockades in provinces far away from their supply range though.

Which would be easily solved if they just took and managed naval attrition like they should.