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Dominik

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Generally, the AI in AOD is good, but I have observed some situations where a tweak or fix would be great.

Below are two screenshots of a game started as hands-off 1941 scenario. The Germans ran over USSR, Bitter Peace fired. The Japanese ran over China. The Italians were mostly defeated in Libya, but when the Bitter Peace fired and Vichy joined the Axis this allowed them to keep a province or two in Libya. When the Germans met with Japanese in India, the pressure on the British in Middle East became so strong that of course the Italians recaptured Libya and conquered Egypt. Meanwhile, whole US army was landed in Africa but somehow were unable to (or afraid) to attack Vichy, Italian or German units and just stood there, while Germans were closing in to Sudan. The only successful action of the British was recapture of Norway. They can't proceed further, because they are not at war with Finland, and the Germans don't use their transit rights to regain control of Norway. Meanwhile Japan, though being very strong (no continental enemies) is very slow at conquering Duch East Indies and other Islands because they have 1 (repeat: one) transport, which hinders their transport capability a lot. Mostly, the AI is busy with using this single transport to move garrisson divisions to every single island in the Pacific. From time to time one marine division lands somewhere and slowly conquers it's target, as often there are no enemy divisions. Hawai are empty, Guam with whole US Pacific Fleet had no divisions as well, but it took a year for the AI to try to conquer it. UK and Germany also have few transports, thus there is low chance of invasion, and the Germans have left half of France's beach provinces empty.

Also, Germans never asked the Japanese to join their alliance, so they can't exchange resources and the trade system required the Japanese to transport their goods to port in German-occupied Denmark, instead of using land route on the continent, which would be safer. Thus the Japanese can't trade their ton of rares for Germany's ton of energy and in 2nd half of 1944 both countries are running at 1IC for a day, then at 50% of their base IC for another. I guess their production and supply capacities are hurt and they would lost the war if the US was more agressive than it is. The problem is they have resources they need, they have direct land connection, yet no trade is done.

 

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Now, there are over 200 Axis divisions facing some 50 Allied divisions on the borders of Ethiopia and more travel slowly through Turkey and Middle East to join them, but they attack only empty provinces. 1 enemy division is enough for the AI to become afraid and never attack. What is funny is that now Germany once again attacked USSR and they have to fight them with much less troops, because the bulk of their army is bathing in the sun next to Lake Chad, including 7 or 8 Panzer divisions.
 

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Also, Germans never asked the Japanese to join their alliance, so they can't exchange resources and the trade system required the Japanese to transport their goods to port in German-occupied Denmark, instead of using land route on the continent, which would be safer. Thus the Japanese can't trade their ton of rares for Germany's ton of energy and in 2nd half of 1944 both countries are running at 1IC for a day, then at 50% of their base IC for another. I guess their production and supply capacities are hurt and they would lost the war if the US was more agressive than it is. The problem is they have resources they need, they have direct land connection, yet no trade is done.

You know Japan's capital is on an island, right? Meaning there's no "direct land connection". But I think you mean with Korean Japan, such a land connection would be too long to maintain in RL. I do agree with you though as the AI does seem to be stupid when it comes to trading, especially as in AoD resource production corresponds to infrastructure and (I think) the AI doesn't build any infa.
 

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Mr_B0narpte: Yes, forgot about their capital. Seeing how Japan has all China, South East Asia and half of India I thought there might be enough resources there to sell to Germany. I'm sure if this would happen IRL, the Japanese and German HQ would find out better way than going through Indian Ocean around Africa, through entire Atlantic, English Channel and North Sea to Aarchus :) Some goods could just be transported from Japan to Korea and from there on by train to Germany, while most resources would already be on the continent. Of course that's a severe limitation in the resource/supply system of HOI2/AOD that won't be fixed. Too bad, Japanese rares really have to be exchanged for German energy.

Olle8: Soviets have mostly militia and their 20+ stacks are blocked by 2-5 stacks of German allies. In the north the Germans are already advancing. Please note it was Germans who declared war, without being properly prepared for it.
 

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Mr_B0narpte: Yes, forgot about their capital. Seeing how Japan has all China, South East Asia and half of India I thought there might be enough resources there to sell to Germany. I'm sure if this would happen IRL, the Japanese and German HQ would find out better way than going through Indian Ocean around Africa, through entire Atlantic, English Channel and North Sea to Aarchus :) Some goods could just be transported from Japan to Korea and from there on by train to Germany, while most resources would already be on the continent. Of course that's a severe limitation in the resource/supply system of HOI2/AOD that won't be fixed. Too bad, Japanese rares really have to be exchanged for German energy.

I find it weird that supplies need to be shipped to Denmark, France would be easier. Japan must need a lot of transports and convoys to be able to supply it's own army while also trading with other countries. Moving resources from Germany to Korea wouldn't be 100% efficient considering the distance, quality of infa it would have to go through and different number of countries it would travel through and I don't think it's a top priority for the developers to create. But it would be good if someone could create something like this, massively helping trade for Japan and other island nations.
 

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Actually this thread wasn't meant for supply system, which shares it's problems with HOI2, I was just asking why the US Army spent 2 years in Algeria and Morocco doing nothing.
 

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Actually this thread wasn't meant for supply system, which shares it's problems with HOI2, I was just asking why the US Army spent 2 years in Algeria and Morocco doing nothing.

Perhaps it grossly overestimated the power of the French :p
 

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I have the same problem with the AI, they seem to be very... inactive to say the least, especially Japan. Also, as mentioned before, they conquer China way to fast, infact, I have NEVER seen Japan lose in the 30+ games I have played since getting AoD. And yet, after conquering all of China, quite a feat, Japan AI just sits. Sometimes it invades the East Indies etc, other times it just sits complety. But it NEVER goes after Hawaii, that I see atleast. I mean hell, one game I just ignored Japan, moved all my divisions to the European front, left no navy in the pacific, no divisions in Hawaii or the west coast and yet I have absolutely nothing to fear from the Japs. Also, and I hate to keep complaining, because I do love this game, the naval AI SUCKS. For example, the British AI seem tohide there Navy even when im invading them, and they could probably completly wreck my navy. Basically I would like an actual threat from AI in the seas, and to have them do actual dangerous invasions, such as in Mod 34.
 

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Same problem with me. In a game as Germany where I retook Ethiopia from the brits, some of those provinces went to Italy. Italy then continued with sending over 40 divisions there. So I thought it was safe to redeploy my armies somewhere else, since the Italians definitely should be able to push the British & Americans back with that numbers. Unfortunately I found out I had to help them out anyway because in fact they just kept stacking more and more on that single port province, without even moving in the undefended enemy territory next to them. Eventually I just took military control because the issue persisted :p