AI People's Republic of China not building units

[stewart_king_2000]

I have now played two full games of HOI IV, and in both cases the PRC did not build any units. This seems rather odd given the military successes the PRC achieved in the real war. I'm assuming that there is some bug. When I loaded up my save game as the PRC, they had divisions under construction but only one on the map. In the game I played out to a conclusion, same thing. Plenty of equipment in the stockpile, plenty of divisions on the construction list, but nothing on the map, ever.

 

[Xaelyn]

I have now played two full games of HOI IV, and in both cases the PRC did not build any units. This seems rather odd given the military successes the PRC achieved in the real war. I'm assuming that there is some bug. When I loaded up my save game as the PRC, they had divisions under construction but only one on the map. In the game I played out to a conclusion, same thing. Plenty of equipment in the stockpile, plenty of divisions on the construction list, but nothing on the map, ever.

Are you sure they aren't just giving them away as expeditionary forces?

 

[stewart_king_2000]

In the last game I played, they gave me their one division as an expeditionary force. In the game I'm playing right now, I just loaded up at the PRC and did not find any other divisions of theirs. The Nationalists are very kindly defending their territory against the Japanese, which seems odd if you think about it.

I'm pretty sure this is a bug.

 

[Xaelyn]

I've definitely never seen said bug. In my games as nationalist china (the only ones where I would be paying any attention to PRC's divisions) they have plenty of (very crappy) divisions which they tend to send to me as expeditionary forces.

What are the specific circumstances you are playing in?

 

[ShoGuL]

I've never observed this bug. You should put up a save in the bug report forum.

 

[stewart_king_2000]

I'm playing as the USSR. In both games, the Japanese went to war with me same time as the Germans. The first game, I beat them and was facing off against the Nationalists, who were part of the Allies, in central China. There was about two years of peace before World War III broke out. The PRC gave me one division as their expeditionary force. The second game, i was playing again as the USSR, and I sent volunteers to China to help defend against the Japanese. Again, there were no PRC divisions until I loaded the game up as them and started a bunch of production lines. I had given them a bunch of equipment as lend lease. Now they have a bunch of crappy divisions but only because I started production.

 

[Xaelyn]

Were they annexed/capitulated at some point in the first game?

 

[stewart_king_2000]

Were they annexed/capitulated at some point in the first game?

Yes, they capitulated to Japan in the first game. I captured their provinces and re-created them as a puppet in the peace conference.

 

[stewart_king_2000]

In the second game, they were never conquered.

 

[RELee]

Sounds like a bug. Moving.

 

[Xaelyn]

Yes, they capitulated to Japan in the first game. I captured their provinces and re-created them as a puppet in the peace conference.

In 1.2 there was a bug with released nations not building troops (AI never got turned on for them). Fixed in 1.3 according to the patch notes.
The second game I coudn't say, aside from them having been given to the nationalists.

 

[stewart_king_2000]

Here's a save game. This is after I cheated for them and gave them some equipment and started a bunch of divisions, so there are a few out there (I counted four, one at home and three in the Nationalist OB - strange in itself because I couldn't see Mao sending his soldiers to fight under Chiang's command, but anyway...)

 

[Xaelyn]

I found 27 in the Nationalists army...

 

[stewart_king_2000]

On closer inspection I see 14, but this was a couple of months after I cheated them some new equipment.

I started a new game as the Nationalists and the PRC started with several divisions and built some more, apparently after I chose the more aggressive option for the border confrontations. So maybe that's the difference - they only build when they are provoked. Nice, peaceful Mao Zedong...

 

[Omghax]

I'm not really seeing this behavior in my test games. And in the attached save (as pointed out above) they have 27 divisions as expeditionary forces sent to the nationalists (you can see this if you open diplomacy with nationalist China and press return expeditions. As expeditions end up under the control of the country they're sent to, PRC appears to have no army.

Thank you for taking your time to report this though.