AI Peace Deals

[grandad1982]

I'm playing an Ottomans game (started on the beta patches) and I'm allied to Crimea. They DoW on Golden Horded and I join as the Golden Horded are allied to the Mamluks and I want to keep these guys down.

After about 8 years most of the Mamluks is sieged by me and I've transferred occupation of some sieges to my vassal Syria as they have 2 cores left that I'm after. Eventually Crimea prevails in their struggle against the Golden Horded and peaces out. I'm not expecting anything particularly from the peace deal so when I see they've given my a province I was pleased. Then I saw where it was

Spoiler

Not one of my vassals cores, no they released one of them as a separate state (I DoW Lebanon for that asap). Not one in the Levant. No, one in the arse end of nowhere that I can't even core. I can't sell it to anyone nearby (no one can core it) and I can't sell it back to the Mamluks as they are my rival. There is no other core there so I can't release a vassal. I short all I can do is sit and wait for it to revolt or wait ages till I can connect it to my empire to core it. Meanwhile I have to suffer the permanent overextension it brings and get nothing for it as its an uncored, 75% LA overseas province!!!!!


TLDR: Why are the AI giving me a province I can't core in a peace deal and not sensible provinces?

Could some one tell me the console command to give it back to the Mamluks please?

 

[rmc]

With the new mechanics, if you don't want a province, give the occupation to the war leader.
There is no console command directly. You have to tag switch to Mamluks and take the province, use the debug_mode to see the number of the province:

~debug_mode
~tag MAM
~own 1234
~tag TUR

 

[grandad1982]

Thanks. I'll try it later tonight.

 

[lordelenath]

Maybe they're doing it like me (and many other players): give your ally a province to avoid the negative opinion modifier but make it something they can't use. ;-)

Jokes aside, you're right. That's pretty stupid and I've had this happen to me several times, too.

 

[Zqrfmb]

Bummer that the AI still does that, I thought in the patch notes or a dev diary it said they'd only do that for claims or cores. On top o that, it'd be nice if even rivals would accept free provinces that are their cores.

 

[Illianor123]

If you keep the siege the AI assumes you want the province.

Even then.. this is stupid.

 

[grandad1982]

Well in future I'll give those sieges away I guess but I still think this is a bug rather than WAD.

On another note I hadn't thought of this as a possible exploit. I can just see the ways to screw over France!

 

[BaZERGer]

Well, at least you can use the province to fabricate extra claims on The Mamluks.

 

[kente]

With the new mechanics, if you don't want a province, give the occupation to the war leader.
There is no console command directly. You have to tag switch to Mamluks and take the province, use the debug_mode to see the number of the province:

~debug_mode
~tag MAM
~own 1234
~tag TUR

this can be done only if you have AoW and some people (like me) don't have it. So i suppose the devs should change the AI peace deals behaviour on this, like "if the X country can't core that land, don't give ti". In this case, the AI ally will give you only a province that you can core when the peace deal is done

 

[grandad1982]

this can be done only if you have AoW and some people (like me) don't have it. So i suppose the devs should change the AI peace deals behaviour on this, like "if the X country can't core that land, don't give ti". In this case, the AI ally will give you only a province that you can core when the peace deal is done

I don't understand why this isn't the case already! The same should apply to humans as well.

 

[yerm]

Having a more involved and lengthy peace process where all the belligerents want in on the negotiation and victors bicker over spoils would be a really cool addition. The art of peace (after the cthulu/atlantis dlc) please!

 

[grandad1982]

With the new mechanics, if you don't want a province, give the occupation to the war leader.
There is no console command directly. You have to tag switch to Mamluks and take the province, use the debug_mode to see the number of the province:

~debug_mode
~tag MAM
~own 1234
~tag TUR

Thanks. Did what you said and it worked a treat.

 

[rmc]

this can be done only if you have AoW and some people (like me) don't have it. So i suppose the devs should change the AI peace deals behaviour on this, like "if the X country can't core that land, don't give ti". In this case, the AI ally will give you only a province that you can core when the peace deal is done

I did not know it's AoW only. That's very bad.

I did a quick check on the files, and if you don't play on Ironman, you can change this on defines.lua:

ALLOW_LEADER_DEMAND_TOGGLE = 1, -- Whether or not player is allowed to set if warleader can negotiate for them