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Soladept

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In my current session the Nomads have been razing the Tribals in Perm and some of the Slavic regions, im concerned that Kiev, Moscow, and Novgorod will be empty grassland in another century, along with the Suomenusko being flat out gone.

and to make it clear, Raze = Pillage until theres no holdings left, tribals/feudals are getting genocided by the AI.
 
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DàbiànLājīdàrén

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Is there any way to speed up the process as a non-nomad? I feel like this should be an option.
 

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Nomads are supposed to do this to tribals. They won't however raze temples, cities or castles.

sorry if i wasnt clear enough, they are pillaging all the tribal and feudal countys they conquer back into empty grassland.

AKA, their Genociding all the Suomenusko and Slav tribals, along with the Khotan Feudals and anything they grab in Khiva.

sometimes they just subjugate and keep the tribal vassals around for a bit, but they eventualy revoke and pillage down the land, or a vassal khan conquests them internaly and does the same, sometimes it depends on the CBS they use.

but in my current game, the Perm Tribals no longer exist.
 

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sorry if i wasnt clear enough, they are pillaging all the tribal and feudal countys they conquer back into empty grassland.

AKA, their Genociding all the Suomenusko and Slav tribals, along with the Khotan Feudals and anything they grab in Khiva.
Unless there was a design change they shouldn't be razing feudal holdings. I'll run an observe later to check.
 

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Unless there was a design change they shouldn't be razing feudal holdings. I'll run an observe later to check.
I think it depends on how they get the land, subjugated/subordinated tribals and feudals get vassalised and last if they dont get revoked, but county conquest / holy war / invasion CBs kick the holders out and I have seen the land get pillaged on those circumstances

I have seen the occasinal temple barony be left intact but the Tribal holdings get erased for sure now, before i dont recall the AI ever erasing tribals.
 

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Noticed that in my newest Nomad game.

I approve. For too long, Perm and Yugra have dominated the steppes! May not a trace of their sedentary lifestyle remain.
 

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I've just watched 3 separate wars where the AI nomads takes feudal holdings and then handed them out immediately.

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The AI Nomads are not pillaging feudal holdings, if you find a case of this happening however I'd be interested to see it.

I think it depends on how they get the land, subjugated/subordinated tribals and feudals get vassalised and last if they dont get revoked, but county conquest / holy war / invasion CBs kick the holders out and I have seen the land get pillaged on those circumstances

I have seen the occasinal temple barony be left intact but the Tribal holdings get erased for sure now, before i dont recall the AI ever erasing tribals.

Tribal holdings are supposed to be pillaged, this is intended and was happening in previous versions. It is just more efficient with the pillaging changes.